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Post by 80sat40fan on Aug 14, 2015 21:13:56 GMT -5
Optional extra predictions for the 8/23/75 show: * "Dance With Me" by Orleans * "Ain't No Way To Treat A Lady" by Helen Reddy * "They Just Can't Stop It (Games People Play)" by The Spinners The Theme From Jaws was used as an extra for the 8/16 and 8/30 shows... would they use that song as an extra three weeks in a row? Also, the 8/23/75 show has "Feelings" by Morris Albert and "Run Joey Run" by Joey Geddes as debuts...
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Post by jmack19 on Aug 14, 2015 22:58:41 GMT -5
I'll go with:
"Who Loves You" "Dance With Me" "Miracles"
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Post by freakyflybry on Aug 14, 2015 23:15:30 GMT -5
Predictions for extras:
Jefferson Starship - Miracles The Spinners - Games People Play John Denver - I'm Sorry
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Post by mrjukebox on Aug 14, 2015 23:15:53 GMT -5
Optional Extra Predictions for 8/23/75: 1)."Miracles"-Jefferson Starship 2)."Do It Any Way You Wanna"-People's Choice 3)."Dance With Me"-Orleans
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Post by darnall42 on Aug 15, 2015 5:06:00 GMT -5
WWOW are still a week behind ,playing last weeks 1970 show
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Post by JessieLou on Aug 15, 2015 7:19:34 GMT -5
OMG PLEAAAAAAASSEEEE DO MIRACLES AS AN EXTRA OMG
Predictions: Jefferson Starship - "Miracles" Orleans - "Dance With Me" The Spinners - "They Just Can't Stop It (Games People Play)"
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Post by davewollenberg on Aug 15, 2015 8:24:24 GMT -5
Dunno if anybody else noticed, but, on the 8-15-73 print chart, The morning after was listed twice. The #1 song for that week was, 'Touch me in the morning'.
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Post by davewollenberg on Aug 15, 2015 8:43:40 GMT -5
OOPS. I meant the 8-18-73 show.
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Post by mkarns on Aug 15, 2015 12:02:14 GMT -5
Larry Morgan noted in his intro to "Half Breed" that it was the first Radio & Records #1, making it of interest to chart watchers. Of special note because from 1989 on that was Casey's frame of chart reference for data during its existence, and thus would be for AT40 starting in 1998 (including the Ryan Seacrest era.)
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Post by mga707 on Aug 15, 2015 16:07:22 GMT -5
Listening to this week's show and thinking that this was the week that "Live and Let Die" should've been #1.
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Post by rgmike on Aug 15, 2015 17:31:01 GMT -5
Casey pre-empted by football on CKOC.
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Post by jmorgan on Aug 15, 2015 18:00:38 GMT -5
Speaking of CKOC, it will officially flip to sports on September 7th (Labor Day in the US). That means 4 more weeks of Classic AT40 on that station.
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Post by torcan on Aug 15, 2015 18:34:08 GMT -5
That means you have heard all the shows in which Casey says that the chart is based on sales reports from 100 record stores and airplay data from 54 radio stations. Starting with the next show, he only mentions the 100 record stores. In fact, he does not mention that the Hot 100 is based on sales AND airplay again until May 1975. And he continues saying such for the rest of the 70s and all of the 80s. Someone already brought up next week's show and the bottom part of the top 40 which kind of ties in with the above. As the 1970 show portrayed, when songs starting falling, they fell like rocks. This was the case for pretty much all of Hot 100 history from its inception in 1958 until mid 1973. In June 1973 is when the chart methodology changed and airplay became a bigger factor in its tabulation. And you can see how that effected the chart. With little or no airplay being a factor throughout the 60s and early 70s, songs fell down the chart very quickly. But by the summer of 1973, now songs are not dropping so quickly. Sales reports will have records falling quickly because once a record stops selling, it is abrupt and there is no lingering effect for lack of a better term. But with airplay as most of you are aware, stations tend to play songs well after they were hits. They tend to play older big hits that have been out for awhile rather than newer songs. And the end result of that is songs falling more slowly down the chart. So the June 1973 methodology change seems to be the impetus for this situation on the charts. My theory is not quite so scientific. Years ago when I studied the early 70's charts, I came to the conclusion that the Billboard staff would remove a song from the Hot 100 on the week when the song would have fallen out of the Top 40 and with little likelihood of rebounding. You might say they were retiring it to a reoccurring airplay and lingering sales status. It was fairly uncommon for a song from the Top 40 to drop to a position between in 41 - 100 and that is not a natural phenomenon. I worked in record stores for years and records would still sell (especially huge hits) for many weeks after they dropped out of the Top 40. They would outsell nearly all of songs in the bottom half of the Hot 100. In those rare exceptions when a huge hit from the early 70's dropped into the 41 - 100 region, I wrote it off as an error like all of the other exceptions in chart methodology that has plagued the Billboard charts since its inception. Unless there is an article from back in day where Billboard explains why most songs drop off the Hot 100 from within the Top 40, I'm sure it will be a subject up for debate for as long as people continue to study old Hot 100 charts. Didn't we establish that Billboard had a rule that they removed a song off the Hot 100 once it dropped for three straight weeks? That's why "Nights in White Satin" fell off from No. 17. Starting with that June 1973 chart the rules changed and they were allowed to stay on as long as they had enough sales/airplay to rank within the top 100. Over time methodology changed...while songs debuted in the 90s and all the way down to 100 for a few years, by the late '70s, most debuts would be at 90 or higher, and songs between 91-100 would be on their way out. That way you knew which songs were going to drop off, rather than still looking up in the 60s or 50s to figure it out. Frequently in the past Billboard has favored new singles/albums over older ones. When the charts changed in late '91, they had a rule where once a song had 20 weeks or more and dropped below No. 20, it would be removed from the chart. Eventually that rule was changed to a 20/50 rule. On the album chart, for several years they had a rule where once an album dropped below No. 100 and had over 100 weeks, it would be removed. If they had that rule all the way through, "Dark Side of the Moon" would never have been able to rack up all of those weeks. Recently they've allowed older albums to chart again.
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Post by torcan on Aug 15, 2015 18:35:46 GMT -5
Speaking of CKOC, it will officially flip to sports on September 7th (Labor Day in the US). That means 4 more weeks of Classic AT40 on that station. Yes, it's Labor Day in Canada on Sept 7th too. I didn't know about CKOC switching formats...too bad. Sometimes it gets hard to find stations to hear these shows on, since so many of these online stations block their signals to Canada for some MADDENING reason.
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Post by JessieLou on Aug 16, 2015 6:59:37 GMT -5
Just heard them introduce "Half Breed" as an extra. That has to be the first time I ever heard anyone outside of these message boards mention R&R.
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