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Post by kani on Aug 16, 2015 8:54:02 GMT -5
WLDE is playing another random shows: May 28, 1977.
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Post by dukelightning on Aug 16, 2015 13:42:56 GMT -5
FYI, while Cher hit #1 on the R&R chart with "Half Breed", she never hit #1 there again. While she hit #1 on the Hot 100 with "Dark Lady" and her comeback hit "Believe", both stalled at #2 on the R&R chart.
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Post by reachinforthestars on Aug 16, 2015 14:25:03 GMT -5
My theory is not quite so scientific. Years ago when I studied the early 70's charts, I came to the conclusion that the Billboard staff would remove a song from the Hot 100 on the week when the song would have fallen out of the Top 40 and with little likelihood of rebounding. You might say they were retiring it to a reoccurring airplay and lingering sales status. It was fairly uncommon for a song from the Top 40 to drop to a position between in 41 - 100 and that is not a natural phenomenon. I worked in record stores for years and records would still sell (especially huge hits) for many weeks after they dropped out of the Top 40. They would outsell nearly all of songs in the bottom half of the Hot 100. In those rare exceptions when a huge hit from the early 70's dropped into the 41 - 100 region, I wrote it off as an error like all of the other exceptions in chart methodology that has plagued the Billboard charts since its inception. Unless there is an article from back in day where Billboard explains why most songs drop off the Hot 100 from within the Top 40, I'm sure it will be a subject up for debate for as long as people continue to study old Hot 100 charts. Didn't we establish that Billboard had a rule that they removed a song off the Hot 100 once it dropped for three straight weeks? That's why "Nights in White Satin" fell off from No. 17. Starting with that June 1973 chart the rules changed and they were allowed to stay on as long as they had enough sales/airplay to rank within the top 100. Over time methodology changed...while songs debuted in the 90s and all the way down to 100 for a few years, by the late '70s, most debuts would be at 90 or higher, and songs between 91-100 would be on their way out. That way you knew which songs were going to drop off, rather than still looking up in the 60s or 50s to figure it out. Frequently in the past Billboard has favored new singles/albums over older ones. When the charts changed in late '91, they had a rule where once a song had 20 weeks or more and dropped below No. 20, it would be removed from the chart. Eventually that rule was changed to a 20/50 rule. On the album chart, for several years they had a rule where once an album dropped below No. 100 and had over 100 weeks, it would be removed. If they had that rule all the way through, "Dark Side of the Moon" would never have been able to rack up all of those weeks. Recently they've allowed older albums to chart again. The dropping three straight weeks theory is a variation of my theory, but I'm not seeing that theory supported by the charts. Just looking at the songs in the process of falling after peaking in the Top 20 on the Billboard 7/11/1970 chart, here is the downward path before dropping off the Hot 100: The Love You Save 2-4-6-8-17-31 (6 weeks) The Long And Winding Road 4-8-20-21 (4 weeks) Hitchin A Ride 5-10-11-12-13-19-39 (7 weeks) Get Ready 4-7-10-13-17-23 (6 weeks) My Baby Loves Lovin 13-15-16-19-22 (5 weeks) Love On A Two Way Street 3-5-7-12-16-22-23 (7 weeks) Which Way You Goin Billy 2-3-10-11-23-33 (6 weeks) Everything Is Beautiful 3-12-19-22-29 (5 weeks) My theory is the following week these would have dropped off the Top 40 and therefore were removed from the Hot 100.
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Post by briguy52748 on Aug 16, 2015 17:58:15 GMT -5
Extra predictions:
* "Dance With Me" - Orleans. (A fairly obvious one, IMO.) * "Rocky" - Austin Roberts. (Covered by Dickey Lee on the country chart.) * "Who Loves You" - The Four Seasons f. Frankie Valli. (No doubt helped by the fact that a popular television actor used it as his catch phrase.)
Brian
P.S.: I don't know if anybody else noticed, but the three debuts this week -- the lowest-charting debut came in at No. 31: "That Lady" by the Isley Brothers, followed by "We're An American Band" by Grand Funk (No. 29) and Paul Simon's "Loves Me Like a Rock" at No. 28.
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Post by mga707 on Aug 16, 2015 20:14:04 GMT -5
Extra predictions: * "Dance With Me" - Orleans. (A fairly obvious one, IMO.) * "Rocky" - Austin Roberts. (Covered by Dickey Lee on the country chart.) * "Who Loves You" - The Four Seasons f. Frankie Valli. (No doubt helped by the fact that a popular television actor used it as his catch phrase.) Brian P.S.: I don't know if anybody else noticed, but the three debuts this week -- the lowest-charting debut came in at No. 31: "That Lady" by the Isley Brothers, followed by "We're An American Band" by Grand Funk (No. 29) and Paul Simon's "Loves Me Like a Rock" at No. 28. Very much noted. Left room in the 30s for a number of 'forgotten gems',such as the Bobby Womack, Cat Stevens, and Don Covay tunes. The three debut tunes are all good as well, and are still heard today. Lots of good memories from the summer of my 15th year on this show! I've got to single out one of Aretha Franklin's lesser-known singles, "Angel", at #21. That song is quite simply one of the best vocal performances of all time. Spine-chill inducing! Aretha's sister Carolyn, mentioned in the spoken intro and indeed the songwriter, recently passed away.
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Post by blackbowl68 on Aug 16, 2015 22:52:05 GMT -5
I'm surprised Premiere did not go with "Higher Ground" as an extra, considering Stevie Wonder was in a coma at this time from that deadly car accident he was in a week earlier. There was a strong possibility this record could've been a posthumous hit.
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Post by matt on Aug 17, 2015 0:17:27 GMT -5
Did anyone notice that this week's 8/18/73 show had a run time of less than 2h 27m with the optional extras included? At least WODC's airing did--not sure if it was that way across the board...quite short compared to the typical run time of around 2h 30m.
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Post by kchkwong on Aug 17, 2015 5:52:46 GMT -5
Predictions for the optional extras:
Dance With Me - Orleans Miracles - Jefferson Starship I'm Sorry - John Denver
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Post by interstate19 on Aug 17, 2015 8:54:58 GMT -5
Did anyone notice that this week's 8/18/73 show had a run time of less than 2h 27m with the optional extras included? At least WODC's airing did--not sure if it was that way across the board...quite short compared to the typical run time of around 2h 30m. Same thing on KOKZ (legal station, I'm pretty sure)
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Post by rustydj on Aug 17, 2015 14:09:57 GMT -5
Did anyone notice that this week's 8/18/73 show had a run time of less than 2h 27m with the optional extras included? At least WODC's airing did--not sure if it was that way across the board...quite short compared to the typical run time of around 2h 30m. Same short running time on WFXY
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Post by dukelightning on Aug 17, 2015 20:53:43 GMT -5
I heard the same show from 1985 that pointpark heard. Debuting at 39 is "Cry" by Godley & Creme who as Casey said, left 10cc in 1976. They left early in the recording session for the album that included 10cc's last top 40 hit, "The Things We Do For Love" and before that song was recorded. So that means their last time in the top 40 prior to the 1985 show was on this week's show with "I'm Not in Love" in its last week on AT40. It is a case of 2 musicians coming back to the top 40 basically 10 years after their last appearance.
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Post by matt on Aug 18, 2015 11:15:26 GMT -5
Did anyone notice that this week's 8/18/73 show had a run time of less than 2h 27m with the optional extras included? At least WODC's airing did--not sure if it was that way across the board...quite short compared to the typical run time of around 2h 30m. Same short running time on WFXY OK, thanks...that's strange. There have been some of the 3-hour shows that have clocked in under 2:29, but this is the first I can remember that clocked in under 2:27. Usually if you have that short of a run-time, it's because one of the optional extras is missing. Anyway, a few interesting tidbits from the first hour of this show: 1. Two songs back-to-back included errors by Casey in their outcues: "That Lady" was mistakenly identified as "Meet the Lady" at #31 (also called out as such in the song's intro), and at #30, the Carole King song was missing the outcue altogether. 2. The first debut song didn't occur until #31--does anyone know what the record is for the highest chart position at which the first debut song occurred in a show? #31 is pretty high, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a week in which the first debut didn't occur until #30 or higher.
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Post by mrjukebox on Aug 18, 2015 19:51:00 GMT -5
Spolier alert:The countdown from 8/23/75 has a debut tune called "The Proud One" by The Osmonds-According to Pete Battistini's book "AT40-The 70's",the B-side "The Last Day Is Coming" was played by mistake-This wasn't the first time that a screw up like this took place:In the fall of 1971,the same thing happened with the song "I Ain't Got Time Anymore" by The Glass Bottle.
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Post by darnall42 on Aug 19, 2015 1:25:57 GMT -5
Spolier alert:The countdown from 8/23/75 has a debut tune called "The Proud One" by The Osmonds-According to Pete Battistini's book "AT40-The 70's",the B-side "The Last Day Is Coming" was played by mistake-This wasn't the first time that a screw up like this took place:In the fall of 1971,the same thing happened with the song "I Ain't Got Time Anymore" by The Glass Bottle. wonder if they corrected the error during the remastering of the show (we'll find out at the weekend )
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Post by pb on Aug 19, 2015 9:04:08 GMT -5
Spolier alert:The countdown from 8/23/75 has a debut tune called "The Proud One" by The Osmonds-According to Pete Battistini's book "AT40-The 70's",the B-side "The Last Day Is Coming" was played by mistake-This wasn't the first time that a screw up like this took place:In the fall of 1971,the same thing happened with the song "I Ain't Got Time Anymore" by The Glass Bottle. Also 12/16/72 when Rod Stewart "Lost Paraguayos" was played instead of "Angel."
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