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Post by Adrian on Mar 22, 2006 9:59:39 GMT -5
Thought I'll liven this section a bit.
I came across a site some time ago that mentioned a Top 40 British Hits of the 80s was produced in 1990. The #1 song was (no surprise) "Every Breath You Take" by The Police. I've never heard the show before. Was it a special produced in addition to the regular weekly show? What was the time frame for its on air broadcast? And what were the extras featured on that show?
Does anyone have any info on this show? Better yet, how can I get a copy of it? ;D
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Post by mstgator on Mar 22, 2006 20:58:58 GMT -5
It was produced to air on Labor Day weekend, 1990. There was also a regular show that weekend. And that's all I know about it. (I have the 9/1/90 CT40 original vinyl for the regular show, and the cue sheets have a listing of all the Westwood One shows available for satellite feed that week... the British Hits special is among them.)
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Mar 23, 2006 14:32:13 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever heard of this special before. Anyone know any more info about it?
Scott
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Post by Hervard on Mar 23, 2006 17:14:06 GMT -5
Wow, I had never heard of that show before.
There were a few other special shows that were made and broadcast the same week that there was a special show and stations were given a choice to air either one. Examples:
The Top 40 Number One Hits of the 1980s was produced for broadcast the weekend of January 6, 1990. My station aired that one on Christmas Day, 1989.
The Top 40 Dance Hits of the 1980s - not sure which weekend this was supposed to be broadcast, but it was played on B96 in lieu of Part 1 of the Top 100 of 1990.
The Top 40 Movie Hits of the 1980s - played in lieu of Part 2 of the Top 100 of 1990.
The Top 40 Summer Hits of the 1980s - not sure which weekend this was supposed to be broadcast, and none of the stations I listened to the show on did this one.
The Top 40 Million Sellers of the 1990s - broadcast the weekend of November 24, 1990; not sure if there was a regular weekly show that stations had a choice to air, since both the stations I heard the show on (B96 in Chicago and Zip 104 in South Bend) played the special.
That's about the only ones that I know of. Anyone else know of any other ones, or the date of the ones listed above?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2006 18:22:21 GMT -5
I can pretty much tell you for certain the Top 40 Million Sellers of the 80's was the only show produced that week. Casey advertised it for like 2 weeks before and said he would be counting it down Thanksgiving weekend and the close of the weekly show the week before he mentioned it again saying that is what he was going to be counting it down next week with no mention of the weekly show.
As far as these others, I have no idea.
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Post by mstgator on Mar 23, 2006 18:37:51 GMT -5
The Movie Songs special originally aired March 17, 1990... there was probably a regular countdown that week as well, since Mark Elliott made no mention of it during the 3/10/90 show he guest hosted (even at the end).
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Mar 23, 2006 20:26:19 GMT -5
"Casey's Top 40's #1 Hits of Summer" was for airplay during the period 6/28 through 7/4/90.
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Post by Hervard on Mar 23, 2006 23:56:52 GMT -5
The Movie Songs special originally aired March 17, 1990... there was probably a regular countdown that week as well, since Mark Elliott made no mention of it during the 3/10/90 show he guest hosted (even at the end). I liked the way the Movie Hits special was compiled, according to weeks at #1. Since I didn't yet have all the charts from the early 80s, that let me know how long each song from those years spent at #1. BTW, there were exactly 40 #1 movie hits in the 1980s. I believe it kicked off with either "Batdance" or "The Rose". And BTW, there was indeed a regular weekly countdown the week of 3/17/90. B96 tended not to play the special shows. Unless they played it at another time during the weekend, since they played the Top 40 #1 Hits of the 1980s in a different time slot. Or maybe they just held off on running that show until late 1990, when they apparently ran the Top 100 of 1990 at another time and played the two special shows in the regular time slot. The Top 40 #1 Hits of the 1980s, BTW, wasn't put together very well, though. Several songs that spent a month at #1 were missing from that show. And what was "Miss You Much" doing way up in the teens? As for the Million Sellers, now that Paul mentions it, I do remember Casey plugging the show two weeks before it aired. I remember struggling to stay awake for the Rick Dees show that weekend, since I usually fell asleep during that (due to its Saturday at 5am timeslot) and then the next day, through CT40, caught what I missed while I was sleeping. But of course, I wouldn't be able to do that on that weekend, since the regular show was pre-empted by the Million Sellers special. I guess Casey was tired of having his special shows slighted by some stations and decided not to give those stations a choice that weekend. I hear that the Top 40 Dance Hits was broadcast sometime in the summer of 1995, but I imagine it was a rebroadcast and the original broadcast was sometime in 1990, because otherwise, how would B96 have had it in late 1990? One last question: Does anyone here have (or know anyone who does have)a copy the #1 Hits Of Summer special, or at least the chart? I'm curious as to what kinds of songs were on that list. Were they just random songs that were popular over the past few summers, or did each song have "summer" (or words that lent themselves to summer, like "sunny" and "hot"?) in the title?
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Post by Adrian on Mar 24, 2006 11:44:54 GMT -5
The Top 40 Dance Hits was broadcast on Memorial Day weekend 1990. That special did not have any extras; album cuts were used whenever possible so as to accommodate the 4-hour time slot.
The Top 40 #1s of the 80s were tabulated, I suspect, by the CT40 staff, which may account for some odd songs listed in there. For instance, the week before, Casey was counting down the Top 40 songs of 1989, and Paula Abdul occupied the #2 and #3 spots that year with "Forever Your Girl" and "Cold-Hearted" (sorry, don't remember exactly which song was in which spot). But neither of those 2 songs ended up in the Top 40 #1s of the 80s. If I am not mistaken, more glaring was that Billy Ocean's "Get Out Of My Dreams, Get Into My Car", the top song of 1988, didn't even make it to the special decade countdown.
The Top 40 Summer songs of the 80s ranked the songs that did well over the summer months of the 80s. I don't think Casey gave a time frame, but I would assume any songs that charted between Memorial and Labor Day weekends were eligible. I can pull out my copy and list out the songs in my next message.
There was one other 80s special not mentioned: The Top 40 Acts of the 80s, but that was broadcast on Thanksgiving weekend 1989, while the other specials were produced in 1990.
It's interesting that some of the specials had an accompanying regular weekly show, while some did not.
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Post by BrettVW on Mar 24, 2006 13:02:48 GMT -5
It seems the accompanying weekly show is much more common on the WW1 shows.
If I were a programmer I would have put the weekly show in the regular time slot and then promoted the heck out of the special and aired it on the other day (ie, if I ran Casey on Saturday I would run the special on Sunday and vice versa)
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Post by Hervard on Mar 24, 2006 16:29:22 GMT -5
The Top 40 Dance Hits was broadcast on Memorial Day weekend 1990. That special did not have any extras; album cuts were used whenever possible so as to accommodate the 4-hour time slot. Heh, I probably should have thought of that in the first place (that the Dance Hits special was on Memorial Day weekend) since the Top 40 Movie Hits was aired on the weekend of Labor Day. And again my a$$umption (darned censors!) was that B96 held off on broadcasting these shows until the end of 1990 and played the Top 100 of 1990 on Saturday, possibly. Then again, I don't know, because I wasn't listening to that station all weekend. The Top 40 #1s of the 80s were tabulated, I suspect, by the CT40 staff, which may account for some odd songs listed in there. For instance, the week before, Casey was counting down the Top 40 songs of 1989, and Paula Abdul occupied the #2 and #3 spots that year with "Forever Your Girl" and "Cold-Hearted" (sorry, don't remember exactly which song was in which spot). But neither of those 2 songs ended up in the Top 40 #1s of the 80s. If I am not mistaken, more glaring was that Billy Ocean's "Get Out Of My Dreams, Get Into My Car", the top song of 1988, didn't even make it to the special decade countdown. Yeah, I noticed that too (Billy Ocean's #1 song of 1988 not making the show). That was one of few WW1 specials that wasn't put together very well. (later on down the line, they seem to have improved, i.e. The Top 35 Hits of the 90s so far). And, by all means, Paula Abdul should have been included, but they seem to have avoided 2-week number one songs while they could, although they did include "Crazy For You" by Madonna which was on the chart for fifteen weeks, but so was "Forever Your Girl" (I think). "Cold Hearted" was number one for only one week, so that explains why it wasn't there. The Top 40 Summer songs of the 80s ranked the songs that did well over the summer months of the 80s. I don't think Casey gave a time frame, but I would assume any songs that charted between Memorial and Labor Day weekends were eligible. I can pull out my copy and list out the songs in my next message You have a copy of the show? Maybe we could arrange a trade. When you find it convenient, send me a PM, please. There was one other 80s special not mentioned: The Top 40 Acts of the 80s, but that was broadcast on Thanksgiving weekend 1989, while the other specials were produced in 1990. Hmm, I'd never heard of that one. Scott Shannon's "Rockin' America Top 30 Countdown" did a similar special, called "Rockin' Amercica Superstars Of The 80s", but that wasn't a countdown, just random big artists of the 1980s. Several acts were clearly missing (like Chicago, Huey Lewis & The News, and Kool & The Gang) while they included several acts that only had a handful of songs (Guns 'N Roses was one of them and the three acts I listed above as being shafted were clearly bigger than GNR in the 1980s). It's interesting that some of the specials had an accompanying regular weekly show, while some did not. The only one that didn't have an accompanying regular weekly show (besides the year-end shows) was the Million Sellers of the 1980s show and, as I mentioned earlier, I suspect that WW1 found out that these shows were being slighted by radio stations and decided not to give them a choice when they put out the Million Seller show. I'm wondering if even that didn't work, because did you notice that was WW1's final special show? (at least I'm fairly sure that it was).
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Post by BrettVW on Mar 24, 2006 21:10:16 GMT -5
Going along with that, it would be very interesting if Casey and/or Ryan tried to do a special show outside of a Year-End countdown with the way radio is in 2006.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2006 21:37:47 GMT -5
This is just a guess, but I am kind of wondering if the idea behind the extra shows over holiday weekend wasn't to put it in the place of the morning drive time show since in nearly every market they get the day off for holidays.
Another special people forget although it has nothing to do with CT40 is the Platinum Plus special produced by Rick Dees to be aired ON Memorial Day, it was not even allowed to be broadcast over the Memorial Day weekend. I had the actual show on LP, with cue sheets awhile back and I seem to remember it saying May 29, 1989 was the exclusive day it could air. Adding fuel to me "drive time morning show" replacement theory.
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Post by Adrian on Mar 25, 2006 7:12:16 GMT -5
My personal opinion about an accompanying weekly show to go with the special is because of the increasing restrictive playlists of radio stations starting the mid-80s. I used to have off-air AT40 shows from smaller markets back in the mid-80s and they were already editing out the extras and LDDs. In fact, AT40 started this tradition with their special from 1986 (Giants Of Rock) and every one of their specials since then always had an accompanying weekly show. This way, radio stations can opt to not air the special if they didn't want to, and I suspect, many did not. Which makes it all the more intriguing that CT40 did not put out a weekly show to accompany their Million Sellers special, and that was in late 1990.
Another personal opinion is that I think WW1 put out all these specials in 1990 (there were 6 of them in one calender year, more than AT40 even back in the early 70s) to combat against AT40, which was celebrating its 20th anniversary that year, and so had really something to celebrate about.
As I mentioned, here are the Top 40 Summer Hits of the 80s:
40 A VIEW TO A KILL/Duran Duran (1985) 39 SHAKEDOWN/Bob Segar (1987) 38 EVERYTIME YOU GO AWAY/Paul Young (1985) 37 GOOD THING/Fine Young Cannibals (1989) 36 RASPBERRY BERET/Prince (1985) 35 THE REFLEX/Duran Duran (1984) 34 THERE’LL BE SAD SONGS TO MAKE YOU CRY/Billy Ocean (1986) XTRA CALIFORNIA GIRL/Beach Boys (Most Successful Summer Act of all Time) 33 TOY SOLDIER/Martika (1989) 32 SLEDGEHAMMER/Peter Gabriel (1986) 31 I STILL HAVEN’T FOUND WHAT I’M LOOKING FOR/U2 (1987) 30 MANIAC/Michael Sembello (1983) 29 DIRTY DIANA/Michael Jackson (1988) 28 BATDANCE/Prince (1989) 27 GLORY OF LOVE/Peter Cetera (1986) 26 POUR SOME SUGAR ON ME/Def Leppard (1988) 25 MISSING YOU/John Waite (1984) XTRA CLIP OF "MERCEDES BOY/Pebbles" (Summer Fun With Cars) 24 THE FLAME/Cheap Trick (1988) 23 WHO’S THAT GIRL/Madonna (1987) 22 HIGHER LOVE/Steve Windwood (1986) 21 LA BAMBA/Los Lobos (1987) 20 INVISIBLE TOUCH/Genesis (1986) 19 SLOW HAND/Pointer Sisters (1981) 18 ALONE/Heart (1987) 17 SUSSUDIO/Phil Collins (1985) 16 IF YOU DON’T ME BY NOW/Simply Red (1989) 15 PAPA DON’T PREACH/Madonna (1986) XTRA SUMMER OF ‘69/Bryan Adams (Songs With The Word “Summer” In Them) 14 SAILING/Christopher Cross (1980) 13 COLD-HEARTED/Paula Abdul (1989) 12 SHOUT/Tears For Fears(1985) 11 GHOSTBUSTERS/Ray Parker Jr (1984) 10 MONKEY/George Michael (1988) 9 THE POWER OF LOVE/Huey Lewis and the News (1985) 8 I WANNA DANCE WITH SOMEBODY WHO LOVES ME /Whitney Houston (1987) 7 ROLL WITH IT/Steve Windwood (1988) 6 RIGHT HERE WAITING/Richard Marx (1989) 5 HARD TO SAY I’M SORRY/Chicago (1982) 4 WHEN DOVES CRY/Prince (1984) 3 EYE OF THE TIGER/Survivor (1982) 2 EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE/The Police (1983) 1 ENDLESS LOVE/Lionel Richie and Diana Ross (1981)
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Post by at40petebattistini on Mar 25, 2006 9:04:23 GMT -5
Thanks for providing the list. I am uncertain what criteria was used to tally points for records here but I see a possible flaw: 1980 -- one song 1981 -- two songs 1982 -- two songs 1983 -- two songs 1986 -- six songs 1987 -- five songs 1988 -- five songs 1989 -- six songs Perhaps someone can explain to me why there is an imbalance of songs from the early 80s compared to the late 80s. I suspect to appease radio programmers in keeping the list "current." And that not a credible assessment.
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