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Post by dth1971 on Sept 9, 2023 8:13:50 GMT -5
October 2023 will mark the 40th. Anniversary of the launch of the AT40 rival Rick Dees Weekly Top 40.
This show was a revamping of the old 1979-1982 Weekly Top 40 radio show hosted by Mark Elliott (occassional 1977-1979 and 1982 AT40 guest host and 1989-1993 Casey's Top 40 guest host).
Originally Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 went by the Cash Box chart source, then by late 1984 switched to the R&R chart source, and as of 2005 went to using its own chart source.
Too bad the first ever Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 from October 1983 isn't going to be played on the Rick Dees app for now or something like that - might be lost media?
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Post by dth1971 on Sept 10, 2023 8:25:41 GMT -5
And according to the Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 launch ad from October 1983, here are the first group of Rick Dees stations:
WHTZ - New York City, NY
KIIS - Los Angeles, CA
KYUU - San Francisco, CA
WCZY - Detroit, MI
KKBQ - Houston, TX
KPLZ - Seattle, WA
WZGC - Atlanta, GA
KSDO-FM - San Diego, CA
WGCL - Cleveland, OH
WRBQ AM/FM - Tampa, FL
KOAQ - Denver, CO
WZPL - Indianapolis, IN
WPXN/WPXY - Rochester, NY
WMC-FM - Memphis, TN
KKUA - Honolulu, Hawaii
I guess Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 didn't enter Chicago, IL until around the end of 1983 or start of 1984 when WKQX Q101 FM picked it up and carried it until about the end of 1989, but bought it back in late 1991 and dropped it in 1992 (when the station went from AC to Alternative/modern rock).
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Post by mstgator on Sept 13, 2023 19:00:30 GMT -5
October 2023 will mark the 40th. Anniversary of the launch of the AT40 rival Rick Dees Weekly Top 40. This show was a revamping of the old 1979-1982 Weekly Top 40 radio show hosted by Mark Elliott (occassional 1977-1979 and 1982 AT40 guest host and 1989-1993 Casey's Top 40 guest host. Aside from the similar names, I don't think the Rick Dees show had any connection to the earlier Mark Elliott countdown (which was actually the Weekly Top 30). Would be nice if the earliest Dees countdowns would show up, you'd think he himself would have copies to remaster and air. |
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Post by burcjm on Sept 13, 2023 20:00:31 GMT -5
October 2023 will mark the 40th. Anniversary of the launch of the AT40 rival Rick Dees Weekly Top 40. This show was a revamping of the old 1979-1982 Weekly Top 40 radio show hosted by Mark Elliott (occassional 1977-1979 and 1982 AT40 guest host and 1989-1993 Casey's Top 40 guest host. Aside from the similar names, I don't think the Rick Dees show had any connection to the earlier Mark Elliott countdown (which was actually the Weekly Top 30). Would be nice if the earliest Dees countdowns would show up, you'd think he himself would have copies to remaster and air. A legal issue prevents him from featuring 1983 or 1984 shows on radio or the app. |
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Post by dth1971 on Sept 13, 2023 20:16:36 GMT -5
Aside from the similar names, I don't think the Rick Dees show had any connection to the earlier Mark Elliott countdown (which was actually the Weekly Top 30). Would be nice if the earliest Dees countdowns would show up, you'd think he himself would have copies to remaster and air. A legal issue prevents him from featuring 1983 or 1984 shows on radio or the app. What's the legal issue? |
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Post by mkarns on Sept 13, 2023 22:17:51 GMT -5
A legal issue prevents him from featuring 1983 or 1984 shows on radio or the app. What's the legal issue? Rick doesn't have the rights to rebroadcast the Cashbox magazine chart data those shows used. He switched to Radio & Records in January 1985, and everything from then on was either R&R (sometimes with modifications) or self-compiled, and thus replayable. |
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Post by Mike on Sept 13, 2023 22:28:37 GMT -5
Never mind that the original Cash Box magazine has been defunct since November 1996! He switched to Radio & Records in January 1985, and everything from then on was either R&R (sometimes with modifications) or self-compiled, and thus replayable. Worth noting that from January 1985 to ABC's picking up the Weekly Top 40 in July 1994, he never messed with the chart - he did skip the week that "The Sign" returned to #1 in April/May 1994, but that's it. The only other even slight change is that I...think? He also skipped a week in December 1989 because the week was taken up by one part of the two-part Top 80 of the 1980s, and then his year-end schedule also frequently contrasted with Casey's on CT40 (in 1990, 91, and 92, the weekly countdowns ended for the year one week later than they did on CT40 - so for example in 1990, CT40's last one was 12/15, while Rick's was 12/22; in 1993 their year-ends matched weeks). |
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Post by dth1971 on Sept 14, 2023 5:27:31 GMT -5
Rick doesn't have the rights to rebroadcast the Cashbox magazine chart data those shows used. He switched to Radio & Records in January 1985, and everything from then on was either R&R (sometimes with modifications) or self-compiled, and thus replayable. Just like the estate of Dick Clark (who died in 2012) has no rights to air National Music Survey reruns from the early 1980's (did it start in 1978 or 1979) - it used the Cashbox chart too! |
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Post by dth1971 on Sept 14, 2023 5:29:24 GMT -5
Never mind that the original Cash Box magazine has been defunct since November 1996! He switched to Radio & Records in January 1985, and everything from then on was either R&R (sometimes with modifications) or self-compiled, and thus replayable. Worth noting that from January 1985 to ABC's picking up the Weekly Top 40 in July 1994, he never messed with the chart - he did skip the week that "The Sign" returned to #1 in April/May 1994, but that's it. The only other even slight change is that I...think? He also skipped a week in December 1989 because the week was taken up by one part of the two-part Top 80 of the 1980s, and then his year-end schedule also frequently contrasted with Casey's on CT40 (in 1990, 91, and 92, the weekly countdowns ended for the year one week later than they did on CT40 - so for example in 1990, CT40's last one was 12/15, while Rick's was 12/22; in 1993 their year-ends matched weeks). Don't forget that in circa 1992-1995 Rick would skip playing certain rap songs on the chart but mention them sometimes. |
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Post by djjoe1960 on Sept 14, 2023 6:40:06 GMT -5
Rick doesn't have the rights to rebroadcast the Cashbox magazine chart data those shows used. He switched to Radio & Records in January 1985, and everything from then on was either R&R (sometimes with modifications) or self-compiled, and thus replayable. Just like the estate of Dick Clark (who died in 2012) has no rights to air National Music Survey reruns from the early 1980's (did it start in 1978 or 1979) - it used the Cashbox chart too! The National Music Survey began in Spring of 1981. I find it interesting that Cash Box , which first stopped publishing in November 1996, is the reason that these shows can't be broadcast. I guess the rights to broadcast shows that feature CB charts are held by whoever owns the new on-line edition of CB. However, I would think that broadcasting these shows would help popularize the new on line edition of Cash Box. |
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Post by dth1971 on Sept 14, 2023 16:26:52 GMT -5
Just like the estate of Dick Clark (who died in 2012) has no rights to air National Music Survey reruns from the early 1980's (did it start in 1978 or 1979) - it used the Cashbox chart too! The National Music Survey began in Spring of 1981. I find it interesting that Cash Box , which first stopped publishing in November 1996, is the reason that these shows can't be broadcast. I guess the rights to broadcast shows that feature CB charts are held by whoever owns the new on-line edition of CB. However, I would think that broadcasting these shows would help popularize the new on line edition of Cash Box. And R&R has been defunct since years after its merger with Billboard. |
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Post by dth1971 on Oct 14, 2023 8:11:30 GMT -5
And for Rick's WT40 40th. birthday present in October 2023, AT40: The 70's is airing on the October 14-15, 2023 weekend the 10/16/1976 AT40 show where Rick Dees' "Disco Duck" was at #1!
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