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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Feb 9, 2023 10:48:10 GMT -5
“I’d Rather Go Blind” by Sydney Youngblood Didn't the St. Paul song do the same thing right around that time? I could have sworn St. Paul had a minor hit on the R&R top 40 in 1993? I do not recall him having a hit on the R&R top 40 in 1990. EDIT: Just checked out St. Paul's song on YT. It's not the song I was thinking of. The song I was thinking of peaked at #40 on R&R in (summer?) 1993, and I believe it was by an male R&B group. |
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Post by Mike on Feb 9, 2023 12:48:07 GMT -5
The song I was thinking of peaked at #40 on R&R in (summer?) 1993, and I believe it was by an male R&B group. There is no such song. Three songs peaked at #40 in all of 1993, all from soloists: Debbie Gibson's "Losin' Myself", Dina Carroll's "So Close", and Big Daddy Kane's "Very Special". |
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Feb 10, 2023 6:56:56 GMT -5
Four more R&R songs that didn't make the Billboard Top 40:
"Do the Bartman" by Bart Simpson
"Into the Groove" by Madonna
"When I Die" by No Mercy
"What Would Happen" by Meredith Brooks (did that chart during the CT40 era?)
Bart's and Madonna's songs were never released as commercial singles, so they never made it to the BB Hot 100. No Mercy's and Meredith's songs peaked at #41 and #46 respectively on the BB Hot 100.
Madonna's song did get played entirely on AT40 on the final episode of its original run.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Feb 10, 2023 7:25:43 GMT -5
Three more R&R songs that didn't make the Billboard Top 40: "Do the Bartman" by Bart Simpson "Into the Groove" by Madonna "When I Die" by No Mercy "What Would Happen" by Meredith Brooks (did that chart during the CT40 era?) Bart's and Madonna's songs were never released as commercial singles, so they never made it to the BB Hot 100. No Mercy's and Meredith's songs peaked at #41 and #46 respectively on the BB Hot 100. Madonna's song did get played entirely on AT40 on the final episode of its original run. Yes, "What Would Happen" charted entirely during the CT40 era. It dropped off on 3/14/1998, two weeks before the AT40 2.0 reboot. |
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Post by Michael1973 on Feb 11, 2023 14:29:47 GMT -5
"Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana (made the top ten on R&R, but only peaked at #41 on BB Hot 100) Smells Like Teen Spirit hit #6 on the Hot 100. |
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Post by dth1971 on Feb 12, 2023 9:07:02 GMT -5
There was also the Cher/Beavis and Butt-Head duet "I Got You Babe" that made R&R's Top 40 used for Casey's Top 40 and Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 at the end of 1993 which never made Billboard's Hot 100 nor Shadoe Stevens AT40, of course.
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Post by Hervard on Feb 12, 2023 12:49:25 GMT -5
"Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana (made the top ten on R&R, but only peaked at #41 on BB Hot 100) Smells Like Teen Spirit hit #6 on the Hot 100. He was apparently thinking of the Top 40 Radio Monitor, which AT40 used at the time. The Nirvana song did peak at #41 there. |
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Post by classicat40fan on Feb 1, 2024 16:28:25 GMT -5
Three more R&R songs that didn't make the Billboard Top 40: "Do the Bartman" by Bart Simpson "Into the Groove" by Madonna "When I Die" by No Mercy "What Would Happen" by Meredith Brooks (did that chart during the CT40 era?) Bart's and Madonna's songs were never released as commercial singles, so they never made it to the BB Hot 100. No Mercy's and Meredith's songs peaked at #41 and #46 respectively on the BB Hot 100. Madonna's song did get played entirely on AT40 on the final episode of its original run. Yes, "What Would Happen" charted entirely during the CT40 era. It dropped off on 3/14/1998, two weeks before the AT40 2.0 reboot. During the 2-week period it was known as "The Top 40 Countdown" |
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 1, 2024 20:54:30 GMT -5
This is AT40 2.0 not CT40 but it must be mentioned. "Me. Myself and I" by Vitamin C reached #31 on AT40 but not only did it fail to make the top 40 on the Hot 100 but it failed to make it to the chart at all. It peaked at 120. Surely there is not a lower peaking song than that.
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Post by dth1971 on Mar 9, 2024 23:05:41 GMT -5
Basically. Some acts, such as Counting Crows, specifically refused commercial/physical singles altogether (thus why they never appeared on the Hot 100 until "Hanginaround" in 1999), but on the whole albums became the all-encompassing priority unless you were an act/label/genre (particularly R&B/rap/hip-hop) for which singles still really mattered. I'd say this really started to build toward a trend in the Fall of 1993, as that's when the number of songs that weren't "singles" or were released some time after going to radio ("Again") started to noticeably uptick. 1991 had "Do the Bartman" which was a novelty and Geffen probably just didn't think of giving it a full "single" push, and "State of the World" which was an EIGHTH radio song off Rhythm Nation 1814...whose singer was leaving that album's label for another (nevermind that the album's singles were having diminishing sales). 1992 had...I think? just "Steel Bars", no real idea why Columbia didn't give that a physical release here. Good stuff. I am with you on having no clue why "Steel Bars" wasn't released as a single. My only thought was that it would have been his fifth single from the album and even though five was the number of singles released off "Soul Provider", maybe because Columbia was gearing up for, "Timeless" a couple of months later they decided not to. Who knows? Also, were there any other 80's songs besides, "Into The Groove" that would become non-single hits on R and R? I can't think of any others. EDIT: As soon as I posted this, I remembered, "Never Say Goodbye" by Bon Jovi and "Spotlight" by Madonna. No others come to mind after those three. EDIT EDIT: Jermaine and Michael's, "Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin". LOL, now I'm done! "Steel Bars" would become AT40's first entry for a song that never got released as a single, that was when in 1992 AT40 was in the Top 40 Radio Monitor era after abandoning the Hot 100 chart source. |
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Post by johnnywest on Apr 9, 2024 15:42:53 GMT -5
This pre-dates CT40 but did appear on Rick Dees Weekly Top 40/R&R: "Yes" by Merry Clayton in 1988. Sadly, she was in a bad car accident several years ago and had to have her legs amputated.
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Post by mkarns on Apr 23, 2024 13:41:27 GMT -5
This pre-dates CT40 but did appear on Rick Dees Weekly Top 40/R&R: "Yes" by Merry Clayton in 1988. Sadly, she was in a bad car accident several years ago and had to have her legs amputated. Also in spring 1988, "Are You Sure" by So and "Should I Say Yes" by Nu Shooz made the top 40 in Radio & Records and thus Dees' countdown, but fell short (by one notch each) of reaching AT40. Interestingly, Nu Shooz' "Point of No Return", which hit #28 in Billboard in 1986, never charted at R&R. Madonna's "Spotlight" reached the R&R top 40 in 1988 but not Billboard's, though that was because (as with her earlier "Into the Groove") no commercial single of it was released. Premiere has used it as an optional extra in early 1988 shows. |
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Post by woolebull on Apr 27, 2024 14:04:59 GMT -5
This pre-dates CT40 but did appear on Rick Dees Weekly Top 40/R&R: "Yes" by Merry Clayton in 1988. Sadly, she was in a bad car accident several years ago and had to have her legs amputated. Also in spring 1988, "Are You Sure" by So and "Should I Say Yes" by Nu Shooz made the top 40 in Radio & Records and thus Dees' countdown, but fell short (by one notch each) of reaching AT40. Interestingly, Nu Shooz' "Point of No Return", which hit #28 in Billboard in 1986, never charted at R&R. Madonna's "Spotlight" reached the R&R top 40 in 1988 but not Billboard's, though that was because (as with her earlier "Into the Groove") no commercial single of it was released. Premiere has used it as an optional extra in early 1988 shows. Throw in Dan Hill as well around that time with, "Never Thought (That I Could Love)". #36/#43 on R & R and Billboard, respectfully. Were there any songs in 1988 that did the flip of these songs (ie hit the Billboard top 40 but not Radio & Records). Honestly, the last song I can think of who did this was, "Digital Display" in 1986 but I am sure there were more. |
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Post by dukelightning on Apr 28, 2024 7:24:10 GMT -5
Here is a list of those songs, not comprehensive as I checked only what I thought might have done that.
"Ritual"...Dan Reed, peaked at 38
"Da'Butt"...E.U., peaked at 35
"Promise Me"...Cover Girls, peaked at 40
"Trouble"...Nia Peeples, peaked at 35
"Sayin' Sorry"...Denise Lopez, peaked at 31
"It Takes Two"...Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock, peaked at 36
Very familiar with the last one, hear it regularly on the R&B throwback station. The E.U. song is the only other one that I am familiar with even though I have heard all the AT40 shows from 1988 meaning I have heard all of these songs.
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Post by dth1971 on Apr 28, 2024 8:16:04 GMT -5
How about songs that made Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 in the since 1998 AT40 revival but never made the top 40 reaches of R&R at all or even when Ryan Seacrest replaced Casey on AT40 2.0 since 2004? Some of these include:
"Destiny" - Mr. Jones
"She Wants You" - Billie
"Minority" - Green Day
"New York, New York" - Ryan Adams
"World of Our Own" - Westlife
"Word Up" - Korn
"These Boots Are Made For Walking" - Jessica Simpson
And honorable mention, despite making an AT40 year end: "Ever the Same" - Rob Thomas
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