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Post by woody on May 5, 2022 20:18:54 GMT -5
What do you guys think about this show? I'm thinking about doing a retro version focusing on the 80s and 90s. youtu.be/Ic5wuF0xISM |
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Post by djjoe1960 on May 6, 2022 5:39:49 GMT -5
What do you guys think about this show? I'm thinking about doing a retro version focusing on the 80s and 90s. youtu.be/Ic5wuF0xISMWoody, I wouldn't use any music from AT40 since it is copyrighted and certainly making 'fun' of Casey Kasem probably isn't a good idea--but you can do whatever you want. One other thing, how about starting your own thread for whatever you decide to do countdown wise. |
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Post by djjoe1960 on May 6, 2022 13:49:47 GMT -5
Agreed, I would need some other moniker for the show(s) and theme music, bumpers, etc. I am not sure how 'exciting' an A/C countdown would be but it would offer an alternative to the Top40/CHR shows and would reflect one of the most listened to formats--in addition, would feature some songs & artists that didn't make the Top 40. as Jack Benny used to say 'I'm Thinking It Over'... I've heard your Rewind Countdown bumper on a couple of TV commercials recently. Yes, an AC Countdown would be very different. A few years ago I found the Billboard Easy Listening chart from July 5 1970 and it was so different from the Top 40. I think the average age of an AC listener in 1970 was probably at least 40, and if so that person would be at least 92 now. I think beginning a few years later and into the 1980s the two charts became much more similar. I remember driving my potentially exploding Pinto into Oneonta for my first job and hearing on the car radio You Need A Woman Tonight by the Captain and Tennille and I Believe You by the Carpenters and This Moment In Time by Englebert Humperdinck, all for the first time. Hearing those songs on the AC sister station, which I moved to in March or April. I was way too boring for Top 40. Kind of like I am now. Maybe you had those songs as recent oldies or recurrents when you started in August. Chris, I am wondering if you started your radio career in New York or Alabama (Oneonta located in both states). I do recall playing Engelbert and Carpenters (didn't know at the time that both were still 'popular' artists); as far as Captain & Tennille, I remember playing Do That To Me One More Time but not You Need A Woman Tonight. I know that I tried to bring a Top 40 feel to the station since I worked the night shift (7-midnight)--but was asked to tone it down by the GM , after he came by the station one night. I plan on sharing a few stories about my early radio career during the show, so it could prove to be interesting once it is complete. Joe |
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Post by mitchm on May 6, 2022 21:26:21 GMT -5
I've heard your Rewind Countdown bumper on a couple of TV commercials recently. Yes, an AC Countdown would be very different. A few years ago I found the Billboard Easy Listening chart from July 5 1970 and it was so different from the Top 40. I think the average age of an AC listener in 1970 was probably at least 40, and if so that person would be at least 92 now. I think beginning a few years later and into the 1980s the two charts became much more similar. I remember driving my potentially exploding Pinto into Oneonta for my first job and hearing on the car radio You Need A Woman Tonight by the Captain and Tennille and I Believe You by the Carpenters and This Moment In Time by Englebert Humperdinck, all for the first time. Hearing those songs on the AC sister station, which I moved to in March or April. I was way too boring for Top 40. Kind of like I am now. Maybe you had those songs as recent oldies or recurrents when you started in August. Chris, I am wondering if you started your radio career in New York or Alabama (Oneonta located in both states). I do recall playing Engelbert and Carpenters (didn't know at the time that both were still 'popular' artists); as far as Captain & Tennille, I remember playing Do That To Me One More Time but not You Need A Woman Tonight. I know that I tried to bring a Top 40 feel to the station since I worked the night shift (7-midnight)--but was asked to tone it down by the GM , after he came by the station one night. I plan on sharing a few stories about my early radio career during the show, so it could prove to be interesting once it is complete. Joe I would really like to hear some A/C countdowns from that time period (or any period before 1985, really, or whenever Dick Clark started playing those A/C songs). Even though I listened almost exclusively to Top 40 in the 60s and 70s, I have noticed that there are plenty of songs that hit the Top 10 of A/C that I just don't have much familiarity with. |
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Post by djjoe1960 on May 7, 2022 11:29:19 GMT -5
Mitch,
Billboard began an Easy Listening chart in 1961, with Record World introducing a Non-Rock Chart in the late 1960's and R & R started publishing a Pop/Adult chart in 1974; surprisingly, Cash Box never published an A/C chart.
Obviously, Billboard would be the most logical to use but not sure if they would object to a countdown of the Easy Listening (A/C) chart, and not sure if they are still are copyright issues.
I would need to do more research to see what 'unique' songs made that the Top 10 on that chart.
Joe
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Post by chrislc on May 8, 2022 19:32:15 GMT -5
[/quote]Chris, I am wondering if you started your radio career in New York or Alabama (Oneonta located in both states). I do recall playing Engelbert and Carpenters (didn't know at the time that both were still 'popular' artists); as far as Captain & Tennille, I remember playing Do That To Me One More Time but not You Need A Woman Tonight. I know that I tried to bring a Top 40 feel to the station since I worked the night shift (7-midnight)--but was asked to tone it down by the GM , after he came by the station one night. I plan on sharing a few stories about my early radio career during the show, so it could prove to be interesting once it is complete. Joe[/quote] Hi Joe this was in New York. I went to broadcasting school in Albany and got a job in Oneonta. I hesitate to share many stories about my own early radio career (or the rest of it), as 90-something percent of the stories are embarrassing.  But I look forward to reading yours! |
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Post by skyseth on Jun 17, 2022 9:54:43 GMT -5
Joe,
Will we have the pleasure to hear new Rewind Countdowns soon , or maybe old Cashbox Countdowns never posted before ?
Thank you.
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Post by djjoe1960 on Jun 17, 2022 15:18:55 GMT -5
I am working on some A/C countdowns (from the 1960's & '70's) when there were a lot of songs that failed to get any airplay on Top 40/CHR radio--by the late 1970's/early '80's A/C and Pop were nearly identical. Thought it would be interesting to see how different what radio was playing for different audiences.
There are at least 40 Cash Box/Rewind Countdowns recorded, that I haven't posted yet. Unfortunately, not as many unique songs in the Top 40 as the 1970's /80's moved along--no matter what 'alternative' chart I use.
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Post by chrislc on Jun 17, 2022 19:39:58 GMT -5
I am working on some A/C countdowns (from the 1960's & '70's) when there were a lot of songs that failed to get any airplay on Top 40/CHR radio--by the late 1970's/early '80's A/C and Pop were nearly identical. Thought it would be interesting to see how different what radio was playing for different audiences. There are at least 40 Cash Box/Rewind Countdowns recorded, that I haven't posted yet. Unfortunately, not as many unique songs in the Top 40 as the 1970's /80's moved along--no matter what 'alternative' chart I use. Joe, I know Archie Bell and the Drells won't be around for those AC Countdowns, but you'll be sure to make it mellow anyway. We don't want your GM from 1979 coming into the studio telling you to tone it down again! Really looking forward to these countdowns and uploads. |
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Post by jgve1952 on Jun 17, 2022 19:43:21 GMT -5
Joe, I still listen to many of the countdowns during the week the show was originated, i.e., this week I listened to 6-19-65 and 6-22-68. Next week I will listen to 6-28-69. Thanks so much for this, as I am not always able to listen to the 60's Satellite Survey, and this really fulfills that perfectly! Looking ahead to July, wow do you have a large number of July shows from Cashbox and Rewind!
Jeff
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Post by djjoe1960 on Jun 18, 2022 5:46:07 GMT -5
I am working on some A/C countdowns (from the 1960's & '70's) when there were a lot of songs that failed to get any airplay on Top 40/CHR radio--by the late 1970's/early '80's A/C and Pop were nearly identical. Thought it would be interesting to see how different what radio was playing for different audiences. There are at least 40 Cash Box/Rewind Countdowns recorded, that I haven't posted yet. Unfortunately, not as many unique songs in the Top 40 as the 1970's /80's moved along--no matter what 'alternative' chart I use. Joe, I know Archie Bell and the Drells won't be around for those AC Countdowns, but you'll be sure to make it mellow anyway. We don't want your GM from 1979 coming into the studio telling you to tone it down again! Really looking forward to these countdowns and uploads. Chris, I recall one 'joke' I told about the low pay I was getting at the first station I worked. There was a convenience store across the street from the station and I remarked how I could trade my paycheck for a few candy bars across the street. You are right--the GM at the station didn't think that was funny and reminded me that if I didn't like working there I could be replaced. It looks like the A/C countdowns will mostly cover the period starting in 1967-1980 (using both Record World and Radio & Records charts). Billboard began publishing an Easy Listening chart as early as 1961-- RW didn't start their Non-Rock chart until 1967 and quit listing it in 1972, leaving a gap until R&R started their chart in early 1974. However, as I indicated, as the 1970's progressed the pop/CHR and A/C charts differed very little as the decade wore on. |
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Post by jgve1952 on Jun 18, 2022 6:05:42 GMT -5
I remember in the early 70's hearing the A/C Charts were dominated by the ABC's--America, Bread and Carpenters!
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Post by djjoe1960 on Jun 25, 2022 13:36:10 GMT -5
If AT40 had used the Record World charts instead of Billboard, the 4 Ex-Beatles would've all had #1's with in a one year period. George Harrison made it to #1 in December 1970 with My Sweet Lord and Paul & Linda McCartney made it to the top spot in September with Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey, while John Lennon's Imagine made it to #1 in Record World only in November. Here is the Rewind Countdown, featuring the Top 40 from RW from the last week of June, 1971 where the ex-drummer, Ringo Starr, reached #1; plus lots of other great summer time hits. archive.org/details/rwc-1971062601 |
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Post by jgve1952 on Jun 25, 2022 15:57:52 GMT -5
Thanks Joe for the 1971 countdown as it seems that Premiere and Sirius are neglecting 1971 and this really fulfills my love of that year. It was a transitional year for me as I graduated from high school and entered the Air Force. One song that really was bigger on Record World was Light Sings as it peaked at #44 on Billboard but fared much better on RW.
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Post by chrislc on Jun 25, 2022 17:55:35 GMT -5
If AT40 had used the Record World charts instead of Billboard, the 4 Ex-Beatles would've all had #1's with in a one year period. George Harrison made it to #1 in December 1970 with My Sweet Lord and Paul & Linda McCartney made it to the top spot in September with Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey, while John Lennon's Imagine made it to #1 in Record World only in November. Here is the Rewind Countdown, featuring the Top 40 from RW from the last week of June, 1971 where the ex-drummer, Ringo Starr, reached #1; plus lots of other great summer time hits. archive.org/details/rwc-1971062601 Great show as always, Joe. I'll Meet You Halfway has been an earworm for me lately and this show will probably extend that. It's a terrific song. I was too hip to acknowledge anything good about them at the time, though I was far from really hip. Come to think of it, I'll bet you planted this earworm a month ago. KHAN!!! |
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