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Post by Michael1973 on Sept 20, 2018 15:02:08 GMT -5
I came across something recently that has me confused. It seems that when R&R began using monitored airplay in 1994, they published 3 CHR charts -- the official-looking CHR/Top 40 chart, and two sub-charts called Rhythmic CHR and Pop/CHR. It seems that the chart used by CT40 and Rick Dees at that time was actually the Pop/CHR chart. So my questions are:
* Why was this chart selected to be the "official" R&R pop chart?
* When did the CHR/Top 40 chart become official? And was there yet another week of disjointed chart positions on CT40 when this happened?
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Post by johnnywest on Sept 20, 2018 18:36:59 GMT -5
It may have been suggested to them by the format editor at the time, who I believe was Joel Denver. From what I was told, Rick and Casey used to get the CHR chart faxed to them a day or two before the magazine came out so they could get a head start on the script, so it may not have been a conscious decision by either Rick or Casey’s people to choose which chart to go with. They were just going with what they were given.
The only real big chart shakeup was either the last week of April or the first week of May 1994. Then again in the fall of 2000 when AT40 went with an unpublished chart. However, the changes were so small that week that you wouldn’t even realize that something was out of the ordinary. Only if you were listening to the AC version where there were 7 debuts in the top 20.
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Post by Hervard on Sept 20, 2018 18:39:09 GMT -5
I came across something recently that has me confused. It seems that when R&R began using monitored airplay in 1994, they published 3 CHR charts -- the official-looking CHR/Top 40 chart, and two sub-charts called Rhythmic CHR and Pop/CHR. It seems that the chart used by CT40 and Rick Dees at that time was actually the Pop/CHR chart. So my questions are: * Why was this chart selected to be the "official" R&R pop chart? * When did the CHR/Top 40 chart become official? And was there yet another week of disjointed chart positions on CT40 when this happened? Not sure if the CHR/Pop chart became "official", but it reflected what was happening at general Pop radio more than the CHR/Rhythmic chart. The combined Top 40 chart lasted until the end of 1994 and was discontinued then. As for CT40, there was no disjointed chart positions, like there was the last weekend of April, 1994, because they began using the CHR/Pop chart that very week and did not switch charts until late 2000 (AT40 by then). |
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Sept 21, 2018 20:55:36 GMT -5
Yeah, that chart weekend of 4/30/1994 (R&R issue 4/22/1994) had some strange chart action, notably "Found Out About You" re-appearing in the 40, and "The Sign" returning to #1 for a 9th week. There's another thread somewhere on it, probably buried.
On the CT40 episode from that weekend, Casey made no mention of chart movements (outside of that week's debuts), not even mentioning "Found Out About You" as being a re-entry. He just stated, "This week, it's survey song #17." Actually, I sit corrected - he did say "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" fell to #4 after two weeks at #1, and in the intro to "Mr. Jones" at #2, Casey said it was rising a notch (from #3 the previous week).
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Post by woolebull on Sept 22, 2018 8:21:10 GMT -5
Yeah, that chart weekend of 4/30/1994 (R&R issue 4/22/1994) had some strange chart action, notably "Found Out About You" re-appearing in the 40, and "The Sign" returning to #1 for a 9th week. There's another thread somewhere on it, probably buried. On the CT40 episode from that weekend, Casey made no mention of chart movements (outside of that week's debuts), not even mentioning "Found Out About You" as being a re-entry. He just stated, "This week, it's survey song #17." Actually, I sit corrected - he did say "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" fell to #4 after two weeks at #1, and in the intro to "Mr. Jones" at #2, Casey said it was rising a notch (from #3 the previous week). Here's a thread on the topic. Not sure if there are others out there, but here are some musings from the group... at40fg.proboards.com/thread/33/april-30-1994 |
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Post by Michael1973 on Sept 23, 2018 20:04:37 GMT -5
Not sure if the CHR/Pop chart became "official", but it reflected what was happening at general Pop radio more than the CHR/Rhythmic chart. The combined Top 40 chart lasted until the end of 1994 and was discontinued then. As for CT40, there was no disjointed chart positions, like there was the last weekend of April, 1994, because they began using the CHR/Pop chart that very week and did not switch charts until late 2000 (AT40 by then). I took a look at the first R&R issue of 1995 and there are no "last week" positions given on the CHR chart, suggesting it was somehow different from any of the charts that appeared previously. Then I reviewed the corresponding CT40 chart and see an unusually heavy amount of chart activity, with multiple double-digit drops and two double-digit climbs into the top ten. It seemed odd 23 years ago, but it makes sense now. |
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Post by Hervard on Sept 24, 2018 13:49:53 GMT -5
Not sure if the CHR/Pop chart became "official", but it reflected what was happening at general Pop radio more than the CHR/Rhythmic chart. The combined Top 40 chart lasted until the end of 1994 and was discontinued then. As for CT40, there was no disjointed chart positions, like there was the last weekend of April, 1994, because they began using the CHR/Pop chart that very week and did not switch charts until late 2000 (AT40 by then). I took a look at the first R&R issue of 1995 and there are no "last week" positions given on the CHR chart, suggesting it was somehow different from any of the charts that appeared previously. Then I reviewed the corresponding CT40 chart and see an unusually heavy amount of chart activity, with multiple double-digit drops and two double-digit climbs into the top ten. It seemed odd 23 years ago, but it makes sense now. The heavy chart activity was mostly due to there being a two-week break for the holidays. The large jump I remember was "You Don't Know How It Feels" by Tom Petty, which moved 22-9. But there was also a chart configuration change - from a point system (based on plays per week) to pure PPW. On the last chart week of 1994, "You Don't Know How It Feels" was #18 in plays per week, which was shown with the chart during the era with said point system, which lasted from late April, 1994 through the end of that year. I seem to remember that the chart jumps in the first week of 1995 using the PPW on the last chart of 1994 made more sense than the positions on the "real" chart from that week. |
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