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Post by woolebull on Jul 3, 2018 22:27:36 GMT -5
On the 6/30/18 show, "Mine" by Bazzi jumped from 4 to 2. The song, which clocks in at 2:13 , is certainly one of the shortest length songs to hit the top 40, much less the top 10, in the history of American Top 40 (I mentioned the song in the Rick Dees thread when it debuted. From our conclusion, it is the second shortest song to be on the top 40 in the last 25 years).
My question for this forum, since Bazzi hasn't hit the top (and probably will not until at least the 7/14 chart): what are some of the shortest length number ones in the history of American Top 40? I know "Stay" by Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs is the record for historical purposes, but that was well before American Top 40's genesis. So what are the shortest length songs to hit number 1 during the run of American Top 40? An interesting record, perhaps, could be broken!
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jul 3, 2018 22:46:09 GMT -5
You always come up with some great topics, woolebull. Love them! Off the top of my head, Jan Hammer's "Miami Vice Theme" clocked in at 2:27 or thereabouts (under 2:30 anyway). Can't think of any others right now - time to rack the brain again!
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Post by doofus67 on Jul 4, 2018 1:50:42 GMT -5
I'll take on the 70s and 80s.
I used two sources: the #1 songs index in the 11th edition of Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Singles; and a web site that some of you are familiar with, 45cat.com, which contains label images of the original 45 rpm records, which in turn show the official running times.
These are, in chronological order, all the #1 songs, from the debut of AT40 through the end of the 80s, that clocked in at two minutes, 50 seconds or shorter:
"Cracklin' Rosie," 2:47 "I Think I Love You," 2:28 "One Bad Apple," 2:45 "Want Ads," 2:34 "Go Away Little Girl," 2:30 "Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves," 2:36 "Brand New Key," 2:26 "Ben," 2:42 "I Can See Clearly Now," 2:48 "The Morning After," 2:14 "Half-Breed," 2:42 "The Most Beautiful Girl," 2:42 "Time in a Bottle," 2:24 "You're Sixteen," 2:50 "The Loco-Motion," 2:45 "(You're) Having My Baby," 2:32 "Nothing from Nothing," 2:40 "Please Mr. Postman," 2:48 "Before the Next Teardrop Falls," 2:32 "Theme from S.W.A.T.," 2:47 "Welcome Back," 2:48 "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing," 2:48 "Rich Girl," 2:23 "Gonna Fly Now (Theme from 'Rocky')," 2:45 "Da Doo Ron Ron," 2:46 "You're the One That I Want," 2:49 "Crazy Little Thing Called Love," 2:44 "9 to 5," 2:42 "I Love Rock 'n Roll," 2:45 The aforementioned "Miami Vice Theme," 2:26
So, woolebull, it looks like Bazzi has Maureen McGovern beat by one second!
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Post by johnnywest on Jul 4, 2018 9:34:07 GMT -5
Although it’s unlikely, keep in mind that there may be something that hit number one that’s even shorter on the R&R charts, which is what AT40 is using for historical purposes. In other words, Ryan wouldn’t mention that “Miami Vice Theme” was a number one song.
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Post by woolebull on Jul 4, 2018 13:27:32 GMT -5
Although it’s unlikely, keep in mind that there may be something that hit number one that’s even shorter on the R&R charts, which is what AT40 is using for historical purposes. In other words, Ryan wouldn’t mention that “Miami Vice Theme” was a number one song. Good stuff all! And that is a fair point johnnywest. Depending how they view the chart history (and I would assume that he would use R and R from late 1973 forward), there could be another song that did hit number one R & R that Ryan could mention. Maureen McGovern would I believe fall under Billboard for historical purposes by just a few months. What is interesting to me is that in all the songs named, there isn't even another one besides "The Morning After" that comes close to the short length of "Mine". So I agree...probably unlikely. But you never know! While Ryan is not really one to give historical chart facts throughout the show, he does do a good job of it when it pertains to the number one spot. For example, when "Feel It Still" was at the top of the chart he told the story of Brian Holland going to number 1 as a songwriter in 1961 with The Marvelettes, in 1975 with The Carpenters, and in 2017 with Portugal. The Man. So I'm hopeful it will get some attention. This is a neat fact whether it breaks the record or becomes the shortest number one since whenever. Of course, it all hinges on if Bazzi can make it to the top. Right now, I would guess he gets a week. However, Ariana Grande is charging fast. Whatever happens it will make for some interesting listening through July!
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Post by briguy52748 on Jul 9, 2018 14:19:52 GMT -5
Think less than three minutes is short for a song?
How about less than two minutes?
We all know the record for shortest song on the Hot 100 overall is Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs' "Stay," which went 1:36, and reached No. 1 in November 1960. (Incidentally, "Stay" is also part of one of the longest songs currently played on many classic hits stations ... part of Jackson Browne's medley with "The Load Out," released in 1978. That one clocks in at 8:51, more than seven minutes longer than the original "Stay," and a full 17 seconds longer than Don McLean's "American Pie." As a standalone, Browne's "Stay" runs 3:28.)
During the "American Country Countdown" era, I am aware of just one song that clocked in at less than two minutes running time that reached No. 1.
In February 1974, four months after ACC's debut, Johnny Rodriguez took the Sanger Shafer-Lefty Frizzell composition "That's the Way Love Goes" to the top of the chart. The song set a new recent standard of shortest running time, at a mere 1:50. (By contrast, the Merle Haggard remake from 1984, which also went No. 1, ran 3:04.)
In the 44-plus years since Rodriguez's "That's the Way ..." reached the top of the country charts, there've been a fair number of songs that ran less than three minutes that have gone No. 1, and perhaps a couple that made it only to about 2:15. Perhaps the next shortest song on the list was in April 1984, when George Strait had his fourth No. 1 song -- out of an eventual 44 -- with a remake of the old Bob Wills song, "Right or Wrong." The song clocked in at 2:05.
All other songs that reached No. 1 on the country chart that ran shorter than 2 minutes were prior to 1973. Here's a list of what I've got:
* 1957: "All Shook Up" -- Elvis Presley (1:57). * 1957: "(Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear" -- Elvis Presley (1:46). * 1957: "Wake Up Little Susie" -- Everly Brothers (1:57). * 1958: "Guess Things Happen That Way" -- Johnny Cash (1:50). * 1958: "Blue Blue Day" -- Don Gibson (1:56). * 1958: "Alone With You" -- Faron Young (1:58). * 1964: "Dang Me" -- Roger Miller (1:52). * 1965: "Buckaroo" -- Buck Owens and the Buckaroos (1:58). * 1967: "Sam's Place" -- Buck Owens and the Buckaroos (1:58). * 1972: "Bless Your Heart" -- Freddie Hart (1:56).
Not too many short songs, and it's unlikely that any new country song will join them.
Brian
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Post by djjoe1960 on Jul 9, 2018 15:58:04 GMT -5
The shortest #1 song on the Cash Box charts is a song from 1965--I'm Henry the VIII by Herman's Hermits clocking in at 1:50. (Stay only reached #4 in 1960, by the way). Although, there were a few other #1's that clocked in about the same 1:50 and a few of them faded out so they could be considered shorter then Herman's Hermits--
Yakety Yak by The Coaters (#1/ July 1958)
Surrender by Elvis Presley (#1/March 1961)
He's So Fine by The Chiffons (March 1963).
I guess DJ's had to be on their toes back in the late 1950's and early '60's with all those short songs hitting the airwaves. Also, I suppose jukebox operators liked the shorter songs--it got people to spend more money to keep the hits a comin'.
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Post by briguy52748 on Jul 10, 2018 11:04:55 GMT -5
To update my earlier post about shortest-in-length No. 1 country songs on the Billboard chart since the debut of "American Country Countdown" in October 1973, there are way too many songs to list that went 2:30 or shorter. But when I narrowed the search to 2:15 or shorter, I got 24 titles, the most recent of which peaked at No. 1 in 1994. (Compared to the 30 or so listed above, with running times of 2:50 or shorter, that went to No. 1 on the Hot 100 during the original Casey Kasem era.):
Those songs, in order of running time (according to my playlist on iTunes):
* "That's the Way Love Goes" -- Johnny Rodriguez, 1974 (1:50). * "Honky-Tonk Blues" -- Charley Pride, 1980 (2:02). * "Just Get Up and Close the Door" -- Johnny Rodriguez, 1975 (2:02). * "If You've Got the Money (I've Got the Time)" -- Willie Nelson, 1976 (2:04). * "Right Or Wrong" -- George Strait, 1984 (2:05). * "I Care" -- Tom T. Hall, 1975 (2:08). * "Who's Cheatin' Who" -- Charly McClain, 1981 (2:08). * "I Love" -- Tom T. Hall, 1974 (2:08). * "Trouble In Paradise" -- Loretta Lynn, 1974 (2:09). * "Someone Loves You Honey" -- Charley Pride, 1978 (2:10). * "Ridin' My Thumb to Mexico" -- Johnny Rodriguez, 1973 (2:10). * "The Wurlitzer Prize (I Don't Want To Get Over You)" -- Waylon Jennings, 1977 (2:11). * "The Big One" -- George Strait, 1994 (2:11). * "Theme From 'The Dukes of Hazzard' (Good Ol' Boys)"" -- Waylon Jennings, 1980 (2:11). * "Country Is" -- Tom T. Hall, 1974 (2:11). * "Why Baby Why" -- Charley Pride, 1983 (2:11). * "When Will I Be Loved" -- Linda Ronstadt, 1975 (2:12). * "Then Who Am I" -- Charley Pride, 1975 (2:14). * "Honky Tonkin'" -- Hank Williams Jr., 1982 (2:14). * "If I Could Make a Livin'" -- Clay Walker, 1994 (2:14). * "I Don't See Me In Your Eyes Anymore" -- Charlie Rich, 1974 (2:14). * "What a Man My Man Is" -- Lynn Anderson, 1974 (2:15). * "Do You Know You Are My Sunshine" -- The Statler Brothers, 1978 (2:15). * "Rub It In" -- Billy "Crash" Craddock, 1974 (2:15).
There were quite a few songs prior to October 1973 that ran 2:15 or shorter and reached No. 1. Per what I've had uploaded in my iTunes, I found that prior to about the mid-1950s, the shortest-in-running-length No. 1 songs tended to be about 2:20, and most of them were between that and three minutes long. In fact, the very first No. 1 country song -- "Pistol Packin' Mama" by Bing Crosby and the Andrews Sisters -- was 3:01 long. I'm guessing just like pop radio, by the late 1950s and the era of disc jockeys programming music only, songs tended to become shorter in length.
Brian
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Post by matt on Jul 10, 2018 12:19:49 GMT -5
^briguy, shouldn't you really be posting these in a different forum? Isn't this one called "American Top 40 Classics With Casey Kasem and Shadoe Stevens"? I get posting country songs that made the pop top 40, but a lot of these didn't...
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Post by briguy52748 on Jul 10, 2018 13:25:39 GMT -5
There's similarities, though. Note that only one song that topped the Billboard Hot 100 during the Casey Kasem era ran shorter than 2:15 -- "The Morning After" by Maureen McGovern from 1973. (Which honestly surprised me since I thought there'd be several others. The 1970s from what I've understood was still an era of the disc jockey and getting as many songs in as possible in a tightly-programmed hour's timeframe.) Just for the record, I don't know the shortest-in-length country song to make the Hot Country Singles chart. However, the shortest-running song to chart on the Hot 100 came just two years ago, in 2016, when Piko-Taro's "PPAP (Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen)" reached No. 76. "PPAP" was just 45 seconds long. None of the songs ranking in the top 5 for brevity on the Hot 100 charted during the classic Kasem-era. For the link for shortest and longest: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7549893/longest-shortest-hot-100-hits-kendrick-lamar-beyonceBrian
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Post by briguy52748 on Jul 10, 2018 16:44:37 GMT -5
^briguy, shouldn't you really be posting these in a different forum? Isn't this one called "American Top 40 Classics With Casey Kasem and Shadoe Stevens"? I get posting country songs that made the pop top 40, but a lot of these didn't... Additionally as I've said before there's no real harm in listing similarities. If someone hac R&B record for shortest length, let them post it. (My money's on Elvis and one of his R&B chart toppers.) Brian
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Post by johnnywest on Jan 27, 2020 9:17:12 GMT -5
I'll take on the 70s and 80s. I used two sources: the #1 songs index in the 11th edition of Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Singles; and a web site that some of you are familiar with, 45cat.com, which contains label images of the original 45 rpm records, which in turn show the official running times. These are, in chronological order, all the #1 songs, from the debut of AT40 through the end of the 80s, that clocked in at two minutes, 50 seconds or shorter: "Cracklin' Rosie," 2:47 "I Think I Love You," 2:28 "One Bad Apple," 2:45 "Want Ads," 2:34 "Go Away Little Girl," 2:30 "Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves," 2:36 "Brand New Key," 2:26 "Ben," 2:42 "I Can See Clearly Now," 2:48 "The Morning After," 2:14 "Half-Breed," 2:42 "The Most Beautiful Girl," 2:42 "Time in a Bottle," 2:24 "You're Sixteen," 2:50 "The Loco-Motion," 2:45 "(You're) Having My Baby," 2:32 "Nothing from Nothing," 2:40 "Please Mr. Postman," 2:48 "Before the Next Teardrop Falls," 2:32 "Theme from S.W.A.T.," 2:47 "Welcome Back," 2:48 "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing," 2:48 "Rich Girl," 2:23 "Gonna Fly Now (Theme from 'Rocky')," 2:45 "Da Doo Ron Ron," 2:46 "You're the One That I Want," 2:49 "Crazy Little Thing Called Love," 2:44 "9 to 5," 2:42 "I Love Rock 'n Roll," 2:45 The aforementioned "Miami Vice Theme," 2:26 So, woolebull, it looks like Bazzi has Maureen McGovern beat by one second! Just going by Billboard, "Old Town Road" is listed at 1:53 on Wikipedia. Its first week at #1 in Billboard was without Billy Ray Cyrus (that version was a little longer than 1:53).
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Post by djjoe1960 on Jan 27, 2020 9:37:50 GMT -5
One other short #1 song I failed to mention from the 1960's was The Letter by The Box Tops--which also clocks in around 1:50.
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Post by mkarns on Jan 27, 2020 11:34:00 GMT -5
I'll take on the 70s and 80s. I used two sources: the #1 songs index in the 11th edition of Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Singles; and a web site that some of you are familiar with, 45cat.com, which contains label images of the original 45 rpm records, which in turn show the official running times. These are, in chronological order, all the #1 songs, from the debut of AT40 through the end of the 80s, that clocked in at two minutes, 50 seconds or shorter: "Cracklin' Rosie," 2:47 "I Think I Love You," 2:28 "One Bad Apple," 2:45 "Want Ads," 2:34 "Go Away Little Girl," 2:30 "Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves," 2:36 "Brand New Key," 2:26 "Ben," 2:42 "I Can See Clearly Now," 2:48 "The Morning After," 2:14 "Half-Breed," 2:42 "The Most Beautiful Girl," 2:42 "Time in a Bottle," 2:24 "You're Sixteen," 2:50 "The Loco-Motion," 2:45 "(You're) Having My Baby," 2:32 "Nothing from Nothing," 2:40 "Please Mr. Postman," 2:48 "Before the Next Teardrop Falls," 2:32 "Theme from S.W.A.T.," 2:47 "Welcome Back," 2:48 "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing," 2:48 "Rich Girl," 2:23 "Gonna Fly Now (Theme from 'Rocky')," 2:45 "Da Doo Ron Ron," 2:46 "You're the One That I Want," 2:49 "Crazy Little Thing Called Love," 2:44 "9 to 5," 2:42 "I Love Rock 'n Roll," 2:45 The aforementioned "Miami Vice Theme," 2:26 So, woolebull, it looks like Bazzi has Maureen McGovern beat by one second! And from what briguy posted, Linda Ronstadt would beaten Bazzi by one second if "When Will I Be Loved?" had gone one notch higher (it peaked at #2 pop in June 1975).
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Post by mga707 on Jan 27, 2020 18:24:51 GMT -5
One other short #1 song I failed to mention from the 1960's was The Letter by The Box Tops--which also clocks in around 1:50. I believe that in the history of the 'Hot 100' since 1958, the only shorter #1 single than "The Letter" is another classic tune: "Stay" by Maurice Williams and The Zodiacs, which hit #1 for one week in November of 1960 and clocked in at Ramones-length 1:36. Obviously the Jackson Browne remake from '78 was a bit longer than the original.
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