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I went to at40.de and noticed AT40 was listed as airing on Sundays. I checked KIIS's website, and noticed something was missing, and thought it unbelievably amazing that after over 20 years of Rick Dees being on KIIS, as soon as his premier/cc contract was up they kicked his show off and now air Seacrest in both of his old spots. I know its a business, but 20 years deserves something, I am sure he had a following there being he was there local morning guy for so many years. Looking back, it almost looks like they were waiting for the opportunity to kick him off at the first available chance(sort of reminiscent of Casey with ABC)

[Scott Lakefield]

He's also, to my knowledge, no longer on CC-owned Z100 in NYC.

[BrettVW]

He is still on CC-owned WKDD/Canton-Akron Sunday nights at 8pm. He was not on the station during the first two weekends in 2005, and an email to the PD said the new network was not responding to email and phone calls from affiliates. But this past Sunday the promos for the show during AT20 came back, as did the show. (I must admit, it is always a bit strange hearing Rick Dees advertised during Casey's show, but at least Casey has the better time slot)

[nenad]

WKFS (CC-owned) Cincinnati, OH still airs Dees... although since he left Premiere the list of affiliates is shorter... according to at40.de most of the stations airing Rick Dees are canadian.

The list on his official site is not updated... guess that one we'll have to wait for...

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Scott, no, he is no longer aired on Z-100.

I wasn't saying he is no longer aired on CC owned stations, it's just that with Seacrest hosting AT40 now, many stations have gone with airing him(it doesnt hurt that the show is CC owned) but a lot of stations have dumped his show like it was yesterdays trash.

Also, it was KIIS was his home for over 20 years and then all of a sudden within one year he is kicked off the morning show and now his countdown show is no longer aired on it.

[Scott Lakefield]

You're right, Paul. What I'm saying is that, like you said, CC has dumped Dees like he was yesterday's trash. The writing was on the wall when they dumped him from morning drive on KIIS. Thus, I'm not surprised that he's not on too many CC-owned stations at this point, at least not in major markets.

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I just think it's strange to see such an about face in under a year. Maybe it was stations being forced to carry him that kept him on so many the last few years.

I like his show, I can appreciate it for what it is. But as we discussed for a little while in the chatroom the other night, the show isn't nearly as good as it used to be. It used actually be funny, the comedy bits were worth tuning in every week. You really had no idea what was going to happen next or what he was going to do. Now, it is a shell of what it used to be. Stale jokes, waaaaay too many personalized song intros, etc. I dont think jokes have to be crude to be funny, I know some things were edgy on his shows years ago, but it just isn't what it used to be.

[BrettVW]

Maybe it was stations being forced to carry him that kept him on so many the last few years.


Unfortunately, I think this is the case with most syndicated shows on right now, Casey, Ryan, etc. I look at it as, if the show airs at 5, 6, or 7am...or at 10pm, or on the overnights (aside from overnight programming obviously), the station is forced to run it and therefore is running it as filler.

If Casey left CC/Premiere, I feel the exact same thing that just happened to Dees would happen to Casey. The CC stations that were told to run the show would no longer be told to run it, and they would drop the show like it never existed.

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I think actually most stations are HAPPY to run AT40 now. They have a "hip" host who draws in viewers.

One of the things I have recently discovered is that the station that used to carry Rick Dees in Jacksonville (CC owned 97.9 Kiss FM) is(not so coincidentally) no longer running Dees's show. I asked the PD if they had plans to run AT40 now (since the station it is on in Jax is Cox Owned) and the PD actually SAID they would LOVE to run the show but it is still licensed to WAPE.

You may be right about the CC stations dropping Casey if he ever left Premiere.

Here's one question I have though, what is the benefit to CC forcing their stations to air their shows? I remember hearing stories about Rush Limbaugh's show being taken from other affiliates to be put on local CC stations when his show went to Premiere. I assume this same practice was employed with the music radio shows. It would seem to me if a local affiliate of a different company is willing to air the show(i.e. WAPE in Jax airing AT40) wouldn't that be more exposure overall for the CC network. Not only do they have their own CHR station in the market, but one of their shows is being broadcasted on another affiliate.

[BrettVW]

Although I am excited American Top 10 has come to WREO, I can't help think it is only because they were forced to run at least one Premiere weekend program.

Up until this month, the show airing in AT10's current timeslot (Sat 9-noon, Sun 7-10a) was Leeza Gibbons' Hollywood Confidential. Since that show is no longer being put out by Premiere (before you say it was cancelled, I heard at the last second WW1 decided to do it after all - still not 100% either way since I am at college and can not listen on the non-CC station that ran it)

WREO (a Clear Channel AC station) runs several syndicated weekend music shows. John Tesh Weekend, Dick Clark's US Music Survey, Nina Blackwood's Absolutely 80's, and now American Top 10. But, prior to AT10, it was Leeza. I feel that the station was told they had to run at least one Premiere show and AT10 is really the only option.

Personally, I am surprised CC allows them to run all of those non-Premiere shows.

But, as much as I don't want to think it, I do have the feeling that WREO added AT10 simply because they had a time slot to fill and CC told them to run it.

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I wonder if Premiere feels they took on way too many shows at one time a few years back...

[Scott Lakefield]

Paul said:

Here's one question I have though, what is the benefit to CC forcing their stations to air their shows?

In the case of a show like Rush Limbaugh...ratings/revenue. That show is a STRONG performer, and why let your competition have it when you can carry it and collect the ratings and thus revenue it generates?

This may also apply to music shows like Casey or Rick as well, but I work in talk radio and therefore only follow ratings/revenue for that format. I honestly have no idea what Casey's Arbitron ratings are (the Nielsens of radio for the uninitiated).

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but doesn't it still benefit if in a case like Limbaugh, to have it on another affiliate? Then you get the revenue for the three hour block on your station, plus you have a presence on another station. I know what you are saying, but I still think it is beneficial the way I am describing it as well. But maybe it isnt.

[BrettVW]

Either way, you still get the revenue from Rush. Why not have it on one of your own stations? It just makes sense.

[BrettVW]

Plus, then, you don't have to program anything to compete against your own show.