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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Nov 26, 2016 16:10:54 GMT -5
woolebull - right there with ya. I couldn't imagine going through the 90s having a lot more exposure to the Hot 100 than R&R like we did in the previous two decades. We'd likely have missed out on a lot of good hit music. In my listening area back then, I couldn't find a station airing Shadoe when the big switch happened. Casey's Top 40 was in (as was Rick Dees), so I essentially switched the same time they did. I haven't heard a single AT40 show from 1992-1995 (or late 1991 either). I just can't imagine not hearing a good tune like "Mr. Jones" and so many others on a countdown show.
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Post by Jeffster on Nov 27, 2016 1:45:35 GMT -5
Harlem Shake did debut at number 40 on Apr 6,2013 on AT40. Ryan also played it as a breakout song in March of 2013. It will be interesting if Black Beatles does make the Top 40. Another song quickly comes to my mind is a song earlier this year called Panda #1 on the BB chart but not a smash on AT40. Thank you for the correction! I didn't realize "Shake" did hit the Top 40, and I'm glad it did. One thing that I do appreciate about the Hot 100 since 1992 is that it better "captures the moment" of what is going on in pop culture than AT 40 ever has. Whether it was Billy Ray Cyrus in 1992, Elton John in 1997,American Idol winners in the first part of this century, or Prince in 2016, the Hot 100 captures pop culture moments better than AT 40 does. So as much as I am not a fan of the Hot 100 since 11/30/91, I appreciate when there are events that sweep our nation, whether they are for a short or long moment, and they are recorded in posterity by the Hot 100. We even see that right now with "Black Beatles". Without the mannequin challenge, "Closer" would have had a pretty solid shot at Mariah and Boyz II Men. But when I think back to the last few months of 2016 from a pop music perspective two things will stand out: people doing the mannequin challenge and a mattress stolen from Boulder. I'm glad that quirky little fads will have to have their stories told when recounting pop music history, if only because they did so well on the Hot 100. And I have no idea what those two things you refer to as "standing out" even refer to, so I wouldn't agree that they "swept the nation."
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Post by dth1971 on Nov 27, 2016 13:03:38 GMT -5
Also a little off topic: Though "Nuthin' But a G Thang" made #2 on Billboard's Hot 100 missing the #1 spot, it never made the Top 40 Mainstream chart in 1993 that Shadoe Stevens AT40 was using at the time. Would it have made Shadoe's AT40 Top 40 Mainstream source for a week at the bottom reaches if it really went to #1 on Billboard's Hot 100 chart?
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Post by woolebull on Nov 28, 2016 0:23:13 GMT -5
Thank you for the correction! I didn't realize "Shake" did hit the Top 40, and I'm glad it did. One thing that I do appreciate about the Hot 100 since 1992 is that it better "captures the moment" of what is going on in pop culture than AT 40 ever has. Whether it was Billy Ray Cyrus in 1992, Elton John in 1997,American Idol winners in the first part of this century, or Prince in 2016, the Hot 100 captures pop culture moments better than AT 40 does. So as much as I am not a fan of the Hot 100 since 11/30/91, I appreciate when there are events that sweep our nation, whether they are for a short or long moment, and they are recorded in posterity by the Hot 100. We even see that right now with "Black Beatles". Without the mannequin challenge, "Closer" would have had a pretty solid shot at Mariah and Boyz II Men. But when I think back to the last few months of 2016 from a pop music perspective two things will stand out: people doing the mannequin challenge and a mattress stolen from Boulder. I'm glad that quirky little fads will have to have their stories told when recounting pop music history, if only because they did so well on the Hot 100. And I have no idea what those two things you refer to as "standing out" even refer to, so I wouldn't agree that they "swept the nation." By instances that "swept the nation", I was talking in generalities about how, since 1992, the Hot 100 has been a good source for things that became popular nationally for whatever reasons...i.e. The Macarena hitting number one, or Prince's death led to the next week him having 8 top 40 hits (I think it was 8). As for "standing out": I was referencing the songs, "Closer" by The Chainsmokers (featuring Halsey) which just spent 11 weeks at number one (the reference to a stolen mattress from Bolder comes from that song), and "Black Beatles" by Rae Sremmrund (featuring Gucci Mane), which replaced "Closer" at the top. It became big for many reasons but one of the reasons it did was through viral videos known as The Mannequin Challenge. The first mannequin challenge went viral in October and thousands of people have now made videos to it, including Paul McCartney. It seems every time you turn on the television, or go online, there are people doing it (ranging from non famous people to politicians to sports stars to musicians at the American Music Awards). I personally would include it as a "swept the nation" fad, if only for a brief period of time. So, with all due respect, I would say it is fair to say that those two songs stand out in the last part of 2016, as I said, from a "pop music perspective". Any time a song is number one, I personally feel that it stands out. Particularly "Closer": When you get to the point you have spent 11 weeks at number one (holding off some of the top artists of this decade to boot), it is something special.
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Post by mkarns on Nov 28, 2016 0:51:04 GMT -5
Also a little off topic: Though "Nuthin' But a G Thang" made #2 on Billboard's Hot 100 missing the #1 spot, it never made the Top 40 Mainstream chart in 1993 that Shadoe Stevens AT40 was using at the time. Would it have made Shadoe's AT40 Top 40 Mainstream source for a week at the bottom reaches if it really went to #1 on Billboard's Hot 100 chart? It's not hard to see that happening. It also might have scored more airplay points if Billboard had been using the same methodology that Radio & Records used for determining their chart (which changed in 1994.) "Nuthin' But a G Thang" did reach #24 on the R&R chart and thus CT40 (Rick Dees too, but you had to listen closely to know that as he usually skipped it.)
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Post by dth1971 on Nov 29, 2016 8:40:53 GMT -5
Also a little off topic: Though "Nuthin' But a G Thang" made #2 on Billboard's Hot 100 missing the #1 spot, it never made the Top 40 Mainstream chart in 1993 that Shadoe Stevens AT40 was using at the time. Would it have made Shadoe's AT40 Top 40 Mainstream source for a week at the bottom reaches if it really went to #1 on Billboard's Hot 100 chart? It's not hard to see that happening. It also might have scored more airplay points if Billboard had been using the same methodology that Radio & Records used for determining their chart (which changed in 1994.) "Nuthin' But a G Thang" did reach #24 on the R&R chart and thus CT40 (Rick Dees too, but you had to listen closely to know that as he usually skipped it.) Rick Dees has mostly skipped rap songs on the R&R chart mostly in the early 1990's and late 1990's plus 2000-2001 (During 1999-2003 he had to use mostly songs bubbling under the top 40 of R&R - some that never made the R&R top 40 reaches -with show chart tweaks to avoid certain rap songs)
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Post by johnnywest on Apr 10, 2018 13:43:56 GMT -5
^If we're talking about Rick Dees Weekly Top 40, especially in recent years, then you can add these to the list:
Panda Black Beatles Bad & Boujee HUMBLE. Bodak Yellow (Money Moves)
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Post by johnnywest on Oct 6, 2024 14:48:24 GMT -5
Earlier this year there was "Hiss," "Carnival" and "Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree" which all reached #1 in Billboard but never got played on AT40.
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