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Post by djjoe1960 on Aug 24, 2020 7:15:35 GMT -5
Joe it was great hearing Otis and Carla on the new show. That song should have been a huge hit IMOFWIW. And interesting about Groovin' being #1 twice so far apart. That can't have happened too often. In BB I think of Andy Gibb/Emotions and of course Chubby. Here is one of the most enjoyable countdown shows I recall doing, featuring the Top 40 for the week ending July 1, 1967 from Cash Box magazine. The top 20 are some of my favorites from 1967 (the Summer of Love) with most of those songs ernding up on the 1967 year end chart.
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Post by adam31 on Aug 24, 2020 11:00:26 GMT -5
Joe, congratulations for reaching page 26 on your thread and getting a shout-out from Pete! I admire creative people like you keeping music like this alive.
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Post by djjoe1960 on Aug 31, 2020 7:12:52 GMT -5
At the end of 1968, Elvis Presley starred in his 'comeback' special that aired on NBC saying he wanted to record more songs with a message. One of those message songs topped the Cash Box chart for the week ending June 28, 1969. Also on the countdown is an instrumental at #39 that features the synthesizer; plus the third song to reach the Top 10 from the musical--Hair.
Peace
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Post by 1finemrg on Sept 5, 2020 20:07:58 GMT -5
Looks like you have another winner with your latest and greatest episode!
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Post by chrislc on Sept 5, 2020 22:43:57 GMT -5
At the end of 1968, Elvis Presley starred in his 'comeback' special that aired on NBC saying he wanted to record more songs with a message. One of those message songs topped the Cash Box chart for the week ending June 28, 1969. Also on the countdown is an instrumental at #39 that features the synthesizer; plus the third song to reach the Top 10 from the musical--Hair.
Peace Joe I am trying to figure something out. I was listening to the January 1967 show and heard Papa Was Too by Joe Tex, which clearly is an "answer song" to Tramp. But Tramp wasn't a hit until five months later and according to Wikipedia, Tramp wasn't even recorded the first time (by Lowell Fulson) until 1967. So how was Joe Tex recording an answer song in 1966 to a song that wouldn't be released until 1967? I guess he must have heard Tramp before it was released. So...how many times in chart history has an answer song preceded the song it was answering by five months, or at all? I feel like there were one or two other instances but I can't remember when. I think I will ask this question on the AT40 forum too.
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Post by djjoe1960 on Sept 6, 2020 7:13:08 GMT -5
At the end of 1968, Elvis Presley starred in his 'comeback' special that aired on NBC saying he wanted to record more songs with a message. One of those message songs topped the Cash Box chart for the week ending June 28, 1969. Also on the countdown is an instrumental at #39 that features the synthesizer; plus the third song to reach the Top 10 from the musical--Hair.
Peace Joe I am trying to figure something out. I was listening to the January 1967 show and heard Papa Was Too by Joe Tex, which clearly is an "answer song" to Tramp. But Tramp wasn't a hit until five months later and according to Wikipedia, Tramp wasn't even recorded the first time (by Lowell Fulson) until 1967. So how was Joe Tex recording an answer song in 1966 to a song that wouldn't be released until 1967? I guess he must have heard Tramp before it was released. So...how many times in chart history has an answer song preceded the song it was answering by five months, or at all? I feel like there were one or two other instances but I can't remember when. I think I will ask this question on the AT40 forum too. Chris--
Here is a website that I sometimes use for information about songs on the countdown, Songfacts, and what they say about--Tramp--
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Post by chrislc on Sept 6, 2020 13:03:47 GMT -5
Joe I am trying to figure something out. I was listening to the January 1967 show and heard Papa Was Too by Joe Tex, which clearly is an "answer song" to Tramp. But Tramp wasn't a hit until five months later and according to Wikipedia, Tramp wasn't even recorded the first time (by Lowell Fulson) until 1967. So how was Joe Tex recording an answer song in 1966 to a song that wouldn't be released until 1967? I guess he must have heard Tramp before it was released. So...how many times in chart history has an answer song preceded the song it was answering by five months, or at all? I feel like there were one or two other instances but I can't remember when. I think I will ask this question on the AT40 forum too. Chris-- Here is a website that I sometimes use for information about songs on the countdown, Songfacts, and what they say about--Tramp-- Joe I think the producers of My Three Sons missed a golden opportunity. They could have had Rufus and Carla Thomas on as guest stars of a "very special episode" on which they took Tramp (the Douglas's pet) for a walk.
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Post by djjoe1960 on Sept 6, 2020 19:07:14 GMT -5
Chris-- Here is a website that I sometimes use for information about songs on the countdown, Songfacts, and what they say about--Tramp-- Joe I think the producers of My Three Sons missed a golden opportunity. They could have had Rufus and Carla Thomas on as guest stars of a "very special episode" on which they took Tramp (the Douglas's pet) for a walk. ?
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Post by djjoe1960 on Sept 7, 2020 7:44:12 GMT -5
Going back to the last week of August 1966 (August 27), the Cash Box Countdown begins with a Top 10 hit for a vocal quartet and ends with a #1 song that didn't reach the top of the Billboard chart. This is a rare countdown that features the #1 country hit and #1 R & B in the Top 40 on the pop chart.
Enjoy--
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Post by djjoe1960 on Sept 14, 2020 7:46:39 GMT -5
Going back 51 years ago (September 13, 1969)--The Top 40 pop singles on the Cash Box chart include the first solo Top 40 hit by a Beatle, two songs in the Top 10 that originally charted in 1967 (and failed to make the Top 40), and you'll hear the #1 songs from both the Country and R & B charts--as well as the #1 pop hit from a cartoon show (Hmmm...what could that be?).
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Post by djjoe1960 on Sept 21, 2020 7:03:10 GMT -5
Here's a countdown from Cash Box Magazine for the week ending October 12, 1968; that features music that ranges from Bubblegum (#35 & #30), to classic rock (#26 & #20). In addition, is a great story/song by Al Wilson at #38 and the length of songs during 1968 must have driven the radio people nuts (many songs clocking in at 4 minutes or longer).
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Post by skyseth on Sept 21, 2020 10:05:26 GMT -5
Don't know why this song never entered The Top 20, it deserved to be a Top 5 - does the lyrics has something to do with such a minor success ( the moral of the song in 1968 was not reflecting the love & peace philosophy of that period )or was it - as you mentioned it - a less exposure on radio stations because of the lenght of the song ?
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Post by djjoe1960 on Sept 21, 2020 11:28:28 GMT -5
Don't know why this song never entered The Top 20, it deserved to be a Top 5 - does the lyrics has something to do with such a minor success ( the moral of the song in 1968 was not reflecting the love & peace philosophy of that period )or was it - as you mentioned it - a less exposure on radio stations because of the lenght of the song ? Assuming you are talking about The Snake by Al Wilson, the song did reach the Top 10 on the R & B chart, although it sounds like a song that would've done better on the pop chart if it had been a hit about 5 years earlier (as story/songs were more common in the first half of the 1960's). The song is 3 and a half minutes long (which probably didn't really affect it's radio airplay).
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Post by chrislc on Sept 22, 2020 18:44:06 GMT -5
Here's a countdown from Cash Box Magazine for the week ending October 12, 1968; that features music that ranges from Bubblegum (#35 & #30), to classic rock (#26 & #20). In addition, is a great story/song by Al Wilson at #38 and the length of songs during 1968 must have driven the radio people nuts (many songs clocking in at 4 minutes or longer). Joe, it really was amazing how Top 40 changed during 1968. The thought of Mauriat or Goldsboro or Alpert being #1 in the second half of the year is an impossibility. And the thought of Vanilla Fudge and Cream and Hendrix and Steppenwolf and Deep Purple being big hits in the first half of the year is even more impossible. Taking most of the Top Ten hits from the autumn and trying to imagine them in the Top Ten at the beginning of the year is crazy. It was like two different formats.
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Post by 1finemrg on Sept 27, 2020 12:49:21 GMT -5
Finishing up the first hour of your latest and greatest, Joe.
So far the extras are killer. Three 45s I searched far and wide through the years before I found them.
The Top 40 is great too! Without giving anything away, the song by Hugh Masakela's ex always makes me smile.
Another interesting footnote is the song at #83 in its second week on the Cashbox charts. Searched far & wide for the Sam & Dave cover of "You Got Me Hummin'" by the Hassles.
One of the members of the Hassles was some guy by the name of Billy Joel who would end up having a hit or two.
Thanks as always.
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