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Post by BROWNJB1 on Feb 27, 2005 21:17:53 GMT -5
Now that Ryan Seacrest also hosts American Top 40 Hot AC, I would like to know, what are the differences between American Top 20 and AT40 Hot AC, other than the fact that Casey hosts AT20 and Ryan host AT40 HAC?
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Post by BrettVW on Feb 27, 2005 23:07:16 GMT -5
American Top 20 uses the official R&R Hot AC chart. AT40 HAC uses an unpublished chart based on data from the affiliate stations (assuming it is done the same as the CHR version)
American Top 20, while its primary focus is on the Top 20 songs, does have an extended focus on big hits from the 80's and 90's, as well as Long Distance Dedication. On average, in the 3 hour show, 15-17 extras are played, between the Extras, Big Hits from the Past, and Long Distance Dedications.
American Top 40 Hot AC is a total focus on the current hits, playing the Top 40 hits on their unpublished chart. There are a few extras featured, but by no means are the hits from the past a primary focus on the show, while on AT20, extras are a very large part of the show.
Plus, you do have the differences in style between Casey and Ryan.
AT40 HAC is much like AT40 CHR, where they have the artist interviews and Ryan's bits, while AT20 obviously has the style we have known for 34 and a half years.
Basically, as I said in a previous post, American Top 20 seems to cater to Hot AC stations that have a focus on "80's 90's and Today" and give equal treatment to the Hot AC currents and the big hits from 80's, 90's and early 00's. AT40 HAC caters more to the traditional "Adult Top 40" stations that play the Hot AC hits in a way CHR stations play the CHR hits.
Plus, American Top 20 is a 3 hour show and American Top 40 Hot AC is a 4 hour show.
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Post by Topay on Feb 27, 2005 23:12:54 GMT -5
Nice explanation, Brett!
I have a question. Does Ryan recycle a lot of his CHR/POP show and use it on his Hot AC show the way Rick Dees does it, or does he actually give equal on-air effort to his Hot AC show?
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Feb 27, 2005 23:27:10 GMT -5
From what I can gather from listening to the two shows, Ryan and crew go about AT40/CHR and AT40/HAC in much the same way Casey and crew (the same crew, by the way) go about AT20 and AT10. When voicetracks can be repeated, they are...with appropriate portions recut...ie, if the song title is different or the position on the chart is different, etc. So, no, there is no out-and-out recycling per se. But why record the same story twice if you don't have to? Can't find any fault there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2005 3:47:10 GMT -5
There is some recycling that goes on, the obvious one to me this weekend when I was listening was the beginnng of the show when Seacrest was talking about the Oscars and looking up a womans dress with a mirror or something.
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Post by Topay on Feb 28, 2005 10:04:42 GMT -5
I'm not against recycling a story by any means. If they want to spotlight Maroon5, for example, I'm all for using the story on both shows. What I don's like to see is for the recycling to make the show inaccurate. In other words, claim a song on the Hot AC show jumps 18-12 (like it may have on the Pop chart) when it actually rose 13-12. That's why I never liked Rick Dees' Hot AC show.
But I'm glad to see that doesn't happen on AT40. It seems listenable (I type that and then see "looking up the woman's dress"...shows what I know) enough to bear, and I do like the thought of having a Top 40 Hot AC show.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2005 12:07:33 GMT -5
I'm not against recycling a story by any means. If they want to spotlight Maroon5, for example, I'm all for using the story on both shows. What I don's like to see is for the recycling to make the show inaccurate. In other words, claim a song on the Hot AC show jumps 18-12 (like it may have on the Pop chart) when it actually rose 13-12. That's why I never liked Rick Dees' Hot AC show. But I'm glad to see that doesn't happen on AT40. It seems listenable (I type that and then see "looking up the woman's dress"...shows what I know) enough to bear, and I do like the thought of having a Top 40 Hot AC show. The show was pretty good, and as I said this was on both shows. And I only said what he talked about. |
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Post by BrettVW on Feb 28, 2005 12:58:01 GMT -5
Topay hits it right on the head. Who cares if they recycle certain voicetracks? Fine by me. It's when they reuse the voicetracks recorded for the CHR show on Rick Dees and put them on the Hot AC show with inaccurate info for the HAC charts.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2005 17:51:38 GMT -5
Topay hits it right on the head. Who cares if they recycle certain voicetracks? Fine by me. It's when they reuse the voicetracks recorded for the CHR show on Rick Dees and put them on the Hot AC show with inaccurate info for the HAC charts. I dont necessarily mind them recycling them either, but in addition to getting that chart data wrong with the charts, I also don't like recycled segments that say something else at the conclusion. Example is back in the spring/summer, the #1 segment on WT40 CHR was the #1 downloaded song of the week and they ran off a few snippets of other artist who were top downloads as well...I dont remember what #1 was on that show, but then for the HAC it went through the whole segment and then ended by saying all of these artist have one thing in common, this is on their ipod. If I could remmeber the whole context this would make more sense but thats the general idea of it all. |
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Post by BrettVW on Feb 28, 2005 18:24:24 GMT -5
I remember that segment. It was about teens at number one when Jojo hit # 1 on CHR/Pop with Leave Get Out. The # 1 montage was all the teens who have hit # 1.
For Hot AC, "The Reason" was at # 1, and they played the same segment, and then Rick just said "all of these teens have Hoobastank on their IPods"
I also remember last March when it was the first week all year OutKast wasn't at number one on CHR, after playing # 1 guest host Gary Spears said "and thats our first non-OutKast number one song of 2004..." and at the end of the Hot AC show, that is how it ended as well, which made NO sense at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2005 19:52:22 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying that, I thought it had to do with CHR and Jojo but my recollection(which as you can see is faulty) was it was in April or May.
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Post by BrettVW on Feb 28, 2005 20:56:43 GMT -5
Actually, it was the July 24/25 show, because I remember I was driving someone home who had been out of town for 2 weeks and I noticed how throughout the show (on HAC) Rick kept mentioning we were heading to "a brand new number one song" (Jojo had climbed to 1 on CHR that week) and then even said it going into the final commercial, before playing the Jojo bit into "The Reason's" 4th or 5th week at the top.
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Post by BrettVW on Feb 28, 2005 21:01:13 GMT -5
Another random thing I just thought of. The March 6/7, 2004 Rick Dees show was guest hosted by LA Radio Personality Gary Spears (then of KIIS, now on sister KBIG)
He hosted the entire CHR show, and about 90% of the Hot AC show. However, there were weird random parts of the Hot AC show that week where Gary would be talking, and then, suddenly, Rick would intro or outro a song. Most of the time it was during the extras, which I assumed to be cuts of old shows put in. Not sure why they do this, as it was extremely odd hearing something like
Gary: "coming in at number 25 that's....." sudden switch to Rick's voice... "now here's Sheryl Crow..."
Also...if anyone remembers the unfunny Tim Allen guest hosted WT40 from February of 2004, Tim did the entire CHR show with no Rick at all, but the entire Hot AC show was a Rick/Tim combo, just like Dees' "guest co hosts" usually are (where Rick pre-tracks his bits and then the other hosts go in and track their bits and make it seem like it was all done at once)
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