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Post by davewollenberg on Oct 11, 2019 16:58:24 GMT -5
Bob's always signed off each hour of ACC.
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Post by mellongraig on Oct 12, 2019 6:10:08 GMT -5
He has, and for WW1 to cut it and either replace it with the 2003 ACC closing theme sometimes or a rapid fire stinger seems out of place.
Anyway they are going back to October 9, 1993 this weekend, and it also seems to me now that 1993 is being played less year after year, but this year more in particular given that they lead the pack with new episodes so far and the 2000s are slowly trickling back in.
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Post by davewollenberg on Oct 12, 2019 8:05:36 GMT -5
Loopin' on Diamond Rio's song, and Clay Walker's. WW1 also cut off Bob's outro to Vince Gill's song. Gets very frustratin' to listen to the rewind, now. Who needs more commercials? Nobody I know.
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Post by briguy52748 on Oct 12, 2019 10:21:01 GMT -5
Loopin' on Diamond Rio's song, and Clay Walker's. WW1 also cut off Bob's outro to Vince Gill's song. Gets very frustratin' to listen to the rewind, now. Who needs more commercials? Nobody I know. Again, are you sure these are actually WW1 edits, or were they in the original show? Seems to me that 1993 was around the time looping was first used by ABC/Watermark to pad out shows. Remember, there is a 1978 year-end countdown that padded out one song to well over five minutes — Bill Anderson’s attempt at disco “ I Can’t Wait Any Longer.” (The original single ran about 3-1/2 minutes, and even the album version was just over four minutes.) Brian
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Post by davewollenberg on Oct 12, 2019 11:23:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't know, Brian. I didn't listen to the shows when they originally aired. Our country station in Chi-town didn't run ACC.
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Post by BrettVW on Oct 12, 2019 13:01:35 GMT -5
Who needs more commercials? Nobody I know. How about the station that is airing ACC Rewind each weekend at no cost to you?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2019 15:36:57 GMT -5
No one likes commercials! I don’t know anyone who sits around with the radio or TV on saying “hey this countdown show is good” or “NCIS is ok but man those commercials are where it’s at! I hope more come on soon!” No one does this. I even pay for the no commercials version of CBS All Access to avoid them altogether. But the key there is I PAY to do this.
The difference between most everyone else and you is most seem to get they are necessary for terrestrial radio and TV stations to survive. Ad rates have plummeted in the age of DVR’s and the plethora of music options. Why after years of you complaining about it you still don’t grasp this concept is beyond me. Commercial time isn’t decreasing.
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Post by doofus67 on Oct 13, 2019 0:44:19 GMT -5
It's no use, Dave. On this board, unless you have the honor and privilege of having worked in radio at some point in your life, it's been made very clear that you have no business expressing an opinion about any aspect of it whatsoever.
I found this out the hard way myself when I had the audacity to say basically the same thing you did. My comment was made more in a joking way, so I retracted it, apologized, and promised myself never to post one more word on the subject. Then I retreated to the commercial-free shows that I prefer. But now I realize I was being too nice.
It's very true that there's no substitute for experience, in any field of work. That's a good lesson to learn. In fact, that should be the point. Some valid, cold, hard, undeniable facts have been presented, facts that can come only from experience. So, why not present those facts, then step back and let them speak for themselves? These guys choose to take things one obnoxious step further and tell all of us to shut up about stuff we haven't experienced first-hand.
The strange part is, I continue to comment on, for instance, the charts and the way they were put together during the original run of AT40. I never worked in the chart department of a trade mag either. And yet, those opinions never rattle anyone's cage. The last time I checked, the name of this forum had the word "Fun" in it. Well, an important component of having fun is the ability to laugh at yourself a little, not to take yourself so seriously.
Keep in mind that there are some folks who just don't know any other way to deal with people. In this case, they're too busy being the board bullies to know what an opinion is, let alone how to respect one that's not 100% the same as theirs.
Here we go again, indeed.
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Post by mellongraig on Oct 13, 2019 6:44:19 GMT -5
To me Dave, I think your best bet would be to complain to the company (aka Westwood One/Cumulus) and explain why this is happening that you think should not happen, even the CT40 staff as well since they are under the same corporate umbrella. They used to have the rewind show on demand unedited until the end of 2017 before the site was revamped to match the Cumulus websites with a different stream.
For me, my fight is trying to get the first hour available, or at least be optional to the network affiliates that carry the show for the four hour broadcasts, they could start at 5 am Eastern if they wanted to. Premiere took I think about 5 years to make it happen with the 4-hour 1978-79 retro AT40 shows. I don't see any reason from them not to do it if they just could work out with the network affiliates to make it happen and make the first hour optional (the CT40 site would reflect that).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 10:01:36 GMT -5
To me Dave, I think your best bet would be to complain to the company (aka Westwood One/Cumulus) and explain why this is happening that you think should not happen, even the CT40 staff as well since they are under the same corporate umbrella. They used to have the rewind show on demand unedited until the end of 2017 before the site was revamped to match the Cumulus websites with a different stream. For me, my fight is trying to get the first hour available, or at least be optional to the network affiliates that carry the show for the four hour broadcasts, they could start at 5 am Eastern if they wanted to. Premiere took I think about 5 years to make it happen with the 4-hour 1978-79 retro AT40 shows. I don't see any reason from them not to do it if they just could work out with the network affiliates to make it happen and make the first hour optional (the CT40 site would reflect that). TBH, I don’t get why it’s not available either. The era they play on these shows isn’t littered with a bunch of songs people don’t know anymore than the top 30 of any given week in the past are. It could be offered as optional just as the first hour of AT40 shows are.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Oct 13, 2019 11:40:15 GMT -5
I understand all viewpoints here regarding this. It's just hard when, as previously mentioned, other posters on here have pointed out rather friendly, and non-condesendingly suggestions on how to go about addressing the issue. When the complaining continues, and it appears that just about every single post is some form of complaining, disgust, anything in that realm, regarding shows that are, in fact, presented to us with no financial obligations, it just gets old. I wouldn't expect any different reaction towards myself if I were the one doing that. This board is fun, and very informative overall, with some extremely knowledgeable posters here. I believe collectively, we look for some contribution from everyone here, be it positive, or informative. Complaining here and there is fine; it happens. We live in an imperfect world. But when it seems that complaining is all that's there, and nothing seems to satisfy, it wears us down. And it's even harder when things are mentioned repeatedly, with no change. I was one of those once, many, many years ago. And I've been on the other side of that also. So I understand. There are bigger things in life, much bigger than we are, that give us perspective. It's very unfortunate that the host of the show we listen to, that many of us enjoy, is facing one of those things. He is in my thoughts and prayers often.
Peace out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 12:46:24 GMT -5
^ ditto all of that.
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Post by doofus67 on Oct 13, 2019 15:47:02 GMT -5
Gotcha, OWTC. You're keeping it positive. I just got tired of what seemed like a lack of openness to other opinions. I got caught up in my frustration.
Yes, a radio station is a business like any other. A business, as we all know, has to make money. To achieve that, radio has to do something that, unfortunately, can be annoying sometimes, i.e. run commercials.
Also, I respect what some members of this forum have achieved in broadcasting. Truly. But to me, sometimes, it feels as though they're rubbing the rest of our noses in it, so to speak. They come on too strong.
I guess it touches a nerve more so with me, because radio was something I wanted to get into since I was in junior high. I just never took the proper training. That's on me.
Posting on this board is the second most fun thing I do all day. (Fun thing #1 is playing with my two-and-a-half-year-old son!) Let's keep it that way!
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Post by davewollenberg on Oct 14, 2019 6:55:43 GMT -5
But, why is there MORE commercial time, than when the shows were 1st broadcast? That's what I don't get.
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Post by briguy52748 on Oct 15, 2019 12:06:25 GMT -5
Who needs more commercials? Nobody I know. How about the station that is airing ACC Rewind each weekend at no cost to you? Something we both agree with here. But it's no use arguing with him. He's against commercials, period. Never mind the fact that the people selling the ads use the commission to put food on their tables, pay for the roofs over their heads, clothes on their kids' backs and allow them to spend money in the communities they work. I realize not all of us like the load of commercials. (I've spoken out about the content of several of the national commercials, especially the "treat you like a number instead of a person" car insurance companies whose ads have nothing to do with their product. And the local station promos that stress double ententre and innuendo.) It seems sometimes like the run of commercials goes five, six, seven minutes. But I just tune to another station and turn back in when I anticipate they'll be back. Why? Because: * 1. I know they'll eventually have to be back. * 2. Some people do appreciate these commercials. * 3. The ad salesmen make money this way, and thus a living. * 4. As you point out, they help keep local radio "free." (Perhaps Dave would prefer a subscription-based service, who knows.) And I'm sure there are more reasons. But that's how I see it. Brian
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