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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Oct 10, 2007 11:54:37 GMT -5
Scott, I just don't think that Premiere made a wise decision in creating AT40 HAC while AT20 was still going strong. I can understand that they were probably hoping to stop a mass migration to Dees after his contract was allowed to lapse. But, in essence, they set up a competition between Ryan and Casey while Casey still has a lot of good years ahead to count down the hits. Casey's following is undoubtably much greater than that of Ryan in the countdown market and while Premiere may have been trying to prepare for the future, they may have gone too fast in pushing "Casey on into the sunset".
A source of optimism is that Casey's fans are definitely not quiet in letting their voices be heard and I'm glad that it is that way. We have come a long way in convincing Premiere/Clear Channel, through purchase and trades of old shows and possibly through direct and indirect communication with them, that there is a strong demand for them and they responded (1). With release of the Flashback series, (2) XM broadcasts of AT40 from the 70s and 80s and (3)More recently with the AT40: the 70s and AT40: the 80s. This website has played a very strong role in generating such interest and we owe a strong debt of gratitude to Rob and Scott for all the work and time that they have provided to make this site a reality.
In short, if we continue to let Premiere know how much we enjoy Casey, I doubt that he will be leaving the business anytime soon and may, very well, be counting down the hits until he passes away.
John
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Post by pzimm7700 on Oct 10, 2007 14:42:32 GMT -5
Personally I think a lot of this is overreaction, but what do I know. I think Premiere created AT40 HAC for a two fold reason, 1.) was Dees's contract not being renewed, but 2.)because as Ryan's current audience gets older he will become quite probably to the countdown world in 10-20 years what Casey Kasem has been to us. He may never have the following Kasem has because radio has changed, but to those who care about countdowns he will be their guy. I can draw a football analogy to this, the younger generation looks at Joe Buck and sees "the voice of the NFL on TV," for me that is Pat Summerall...always has been, always will be.
Plus as stations do different things to be considered modern, the old countdown style of Casey Kasem doesn't fit anymore as Brett said. AT40 HAC w/Ryan fits better on those stations. So Premiere could do one of two things, they could let the affiliates leave and go with clueless Dees who is well oast his usefulness on the radio but out of a sense of loyalty and the PD's not caring would get a lot of stations, or they could eye the future with their top star of today and create a new show to serve that audience. As unpopular as the decision seems to many, I think it was the right move.
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Post by nenad on Oct 11, 2007 11:11:25 GMT -5
And let's not forget that some of the drops are not due to the fact that the AT20 show is not wanted anymore, but the format flip of the station itself (and where no actual special programming has been introduced since the format change) - so, I guess, none of the shows, nor AT20 nor AT40, are suitable for MY-stations. But, I could be wrong.
And I definitly agree with Paul.
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Oct 14, 2007 20:25:59 GMT -5
Hot AC may be evolving at the moment. Some HAC stations are flipping formats, leaning Pop, and/or dropping the 80s from their playlists. AT20 will have to try to find some solution if they want to keep those HAC stations that are dropping 80s songs.
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Post by pzimm7700 on Oct 15, 2007 15:10:30 GMT -5
Hot AC may be evolving at the moment. Some HAC stations are flipping formats, leaning Pop, and/or dropping the 80s from their playlists. AT20 will have to try to find some solution if they want to keep those HAC stations that are dropping 80s songs. Again, I don't think AT20 can unless their stations sound like something AT20 not only musically but also in style can fit on. I want to make something clear if it isn't. I love listening to AT20 and love hearing Casey Kasem, moreso than I will ever care about Ryan Seacrest. I just have come to accept things have changed, and Caseys shows dont fit the HAC format for many any longer. That said, I would not have ever wanted the shows to evolve into something more modern. Because his show is pretty much dry and is just a show about music, it has a certain charm. Unlike Dees who because he tries to be hip and isn't comes off sounding horrible. Casey and his shows at least have their dignity.
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Post by MEF on Nov 4, 2007 23:36:26 GMT -5
While I was on vacation, I received a copy of a confirmation mail from WMTX staff that the station has officially dropped AT20, which means - only CFOZ airs AT20 on saturdays, over the internet. Casey goofed on AT20 on the 11/4/07. Casey had WMTX from Tampa Bay, Florida as a station mention. If someone has connections to Casey's staff at Premiere Radio, should mention that WMTX dropped AT20 in the summer of 2007.
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Post by pzimm7700 on Nov 5, 2007 4:02:10 GMT -5
Well, if you go the "20 The Countdown Magazine" site, it has a station in Jacksonville listed as one of their affiliates and they dropped the show in 2002. What's worse is the station actually doesn't exist anymore!
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Post by MEF on Feb 24, 2008 23:20:55 GMT -5
American Top 20 does still air on WLXV 96.7 FM in Cadillac, Michigan. They finally have a detailed website. They changed the timeslot of AT20. It airs Saturday 12 Noon to 3 PM on Saturdays and again 12 Noon to 3 PM on Sundays. Sorry, WLXV does not webcast.
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Post by MEF on Mar 9, 2008 14:14:04 GMT -5
It appears KMYI FM in San Diego, California has dropped American Top 20 with Casey Kasem. Instead they now air American Top 40 With Ryan in that time slot. Casey was on KMYI on 3/2/08. However, AT40 was on 3/9/08.
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Post by robert on Mar 9, 2008 16:18:55 GMT -5
I know it's a bit out of the above story, but I'm too lazy to read everything on this topics once again so just to note that the following stations' websites have AT20 on their schedules too: KRLT 93.9 The Lake, South Lake Tahoe, California from 6 to 9 pm and KISS 102.7 WCKS Carrollton, Georgia. Anybody out there to know if that's correct?
Ooops, sorry for that, just listening to Casey and he has just mentioned The Lake and also the station I'm listening FLY 98.3 in Kingston, Ontario, Canada. But Nenad, you should make a correction on your website 'cause they air AT20 from 21:00 CET not 22:00.
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Post by pzimm7700 on Mar 9, 2008 17:20:01 GMT -5
Not sure where you live Robert, but in the USA Daylight Savings time started today. So that may be why the time is off. I believe every other week with CFLY has always been correct based on Eastern time.
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Post by nenad on Mar 10, 2008 9:21:36 GMT -5
Not sure where you live Robert, but in the USA Daylight Savings time started today. So that may be why the time is off. I believe every other week with CFLY has always been correct based on Eastern time. Just as Paul says: Europe has not yet switched to DST, so that' why until March 30'th shows will be starting one hour earlier than listed on my site.
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Post by MEF on Mar 15, 2008 18:23:51 GMT -5
- only CFOZ airs AT20 on saturdays, over the internet. It appears OZ FM streaming is not working this weekend. Thus, I have yet to hear AT20 this weekend. It sounds like WMVX in Cleveland will be my first airing of AT20. I probably have to listen to Mix 93.1 from Texas for AT20 on Sunday night instead of OZ FM.
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Post by MEF on Mar 16, 2008 20:44:50 GMT -5
Ugh! I hate reporting this information.
It appears American Top 20 has "croaked" on Froggy Radio WLEG. The station in South Bend, Indiana now only plays their regular music on Sundays from 10 am to 1 pm EDT. It occurred the last two Sundays 3/9 and 3/16. The Froggy website still has AT20 on listed. It still says that AT20 airs on Sundays from 10 am to 1 pm. However, the Top 20 chart they now have listed is over two weeks old.
Thankfully, KBIG has brought back AT20. Thus, I have an AT20 station to replace WLEG. This was my first chance to listen to AT20 this weekend. I noticed Casey will reference the MY FM ID, but Casey also makes sure the classic call letters are mentioned, K B I G.
By the way I noticed nenad found two new AT20 stations that air on Sunday nights. WNNK and KMXC. Both of their stations confirm Sunday night broadcast time. Unfortunately, AT20 does not air Sunday nights on those stations. WNNK just plays their regular music with a voice tracked dj. KMXC probably does air AT20 on Sunday nights. However, its probably only available for the on air feed. The internet stream uses a back up feed of just playing regular music, just like KEYW does when they air AT20. That was a bummer. With OZ FM still having streaming problems, I was hoping to use KMXC or WNNK. Well at least I'll have KTYL after 10 pm EDT tonight.
By the way, Casey goofed again on this weekends station mentions. He said WVMX in Cincinnati, Ohio. AT20 was dropped when WVMX station changed formats last September 2007. The call letters are now known as WNNF. If Scott is reading this, you might want to pass this on to the AT20 staff. Thanks
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Post by MEF on Mar 16, 2008 22:13:30 GMT -5
Update on WNNK. Their website says Casey and AT20 air twice on WNNK on Sundays, 9am to Noon, and again 9 pm to Midnight. However, they must not update their website properly. Looking at yes.com AT20 does air Sunday Mornings from 9 am to Noon. There is no Sunday night airing of AT20.
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