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Post by woolebull on Feb 28, 2024 13:42:27 GMT -5
Maddi Lane did a fine job on that song. Is that a song about something that actually happened? Not sure when Warrant recorded that song originally but did Jani lose a son to drug addiction? I had forgotten that he himself died and at a youngish age at that. Yeah COVID wrecked a lot of people's lives, certainly students that were graduating in 2020. Love that Timmy T song do you?! Some people on this board cannot stand it. I can take it or leave it. Mariah's hit is at the top of my list for that time frame. You and freakyflybry have heard some 1978 shows lately. I have yet to hear any this year since I am simply listening to whatever the Premiere A shows are when it comes to the 70s and 80s having already heard every one since I started listening to them in 2010. So Van Halen debuts on the 3/11/78 show. Debuting the next week is "Feels so Good". Debuting 11 years later is Van Halen with "Feels so Good"! Maddi absolutely did a great job. I am not sure what the backstory is on the song and I "think" that Maddi was his only child. I wish her well...obviously a smart young lady and I hope she makes it in all she does. So me and Timmy are complicated. I honestly never wanted to like the song. From about 1988 up through 1991 I became enamored with artists who almost or barely hit the top 40 with a song or songs and then hit it bigger. Think Will To Power, Blue Zone (Lisa Stansfield), Dino, Stevie B, and of course Timmy T. T had barely hit the top 40 the year before so when I saw the song bouncing up the chart, I was excited to hear it. Then I heard it, and laughed. No way that song was going to go very far. And it kept going. And going. And for three weeks I watched it at #3 thinking that the nightmare was over. And then it went to #2. And as I waited for it to drop, I just knew that with Mariah on top and Gloria's comeback poised to hit #1 that there was absolutely no way "One More Try" was going to make it to #1. And somehow it happened. To this day, I will never know how Mariah didn't stay at the top one more week (and there were, I believe, "test" runs of the soon to be implemented new Hot 100 that had "Someday" staying like eight weeks at the top). So I decided that moment that I wasn't going to ever not make "One More Try" not hit #1. So I might as well appreciate it for what it did. And since that time I have always tried to give the song its due. No matter if I think it is corny or not, what it pulled off for me is one of the more impressive feats ever: essentially a no name dance guy taking down Mariah and holding off Gloria. I also will note that there were many times in just 1991 that I wondered how some songs made it to the top, particularly in the first half of the year. That song, "Joyride", and "(I Like The Way) The Kissing Game" never felt to me like #1's but somehow made it to the top. Subsequently, I love all three songs now. |
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Post by doofus67 on Feb 28, 2024 13:46:21 GMT -5
Speaking of Madonna, I'm currently in San Francisco for her concert tomorrow night, it'll be my first time seeing her. That's only 1,600 miles one-way from Saskatoon! Geez, eh?  |
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Post by woolebull on Feb 28, 2024 13:49:57 GMT -5
I thought that Dan Hill song was underrated. Should've made it onto AT40. Same, Great song that should have done better. And double checked: was right about Dan Hill barely out of the top 40 in March of 1988. Forgot one other: Natalie Cole just dropped out of the top 40 the first week in March of 1988. She was on the 3/4/78 show as well. |
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Post by trekkielo on Feb 28, 2024 14:46:40 GMT -5
I thought that Dan Hill song was underrated. Should've made it onto AT40. Same, Great song that should have done better. And double checked: was right about Dan Hill barely out of the top 40 in March of 1988. |
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 28, 2024 15:19:13 GMT -5
Yes that song closed the movie which I have seen a few times. Seen First Blood more than any Sylvester Stallone movie. woolebull, that's quite a story about Timmy T. I would definitely say that Hi-Five hitting #1 was unexpected. freakyflybry is doing something that I could never do, listen to a show while out of town. All of my shows are on my pc. I really need to see Madonna in concert myself. Hope I get the chance at some point. You must have more maybe a lot more CashBox countdowns than I have OnWithTheCountdown. I have about 50 from 1964-80. The Leap Day show from 1964 is not one of them. I would have heard that or the 2020 AT40 show but don't have any AT40 shows from this decade. So since I checked out the CashBox shows, I decided to listen to one. Have only heard one or two of these shows and not in the last few years. Anyway, this is the 3/14/70 show. "Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head" kicked it off but I have not recognized any song since as it approaches the #32 song that apparently debuted on the whole CashBox chart this week. No surprise that it is "Let it Be". Joe says that they had 20 #1 hits on the CashBox chart. Interesting that it is the same as Billboard. Wonder if they are the same 20 songs.
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Post by doofus67 on Feb 28, 2024 15:39:13 GMT -5
Joe says that [the Beatles] had 20 #1 hits on the Cash Box chart. Interesting that it is the same as Billboard. Wonder if they are the same 20 songs. The Fab Four racked up 22 #1s in Cash Box -- the 20 in Billboard plus "Twist and Shout" and "Yellow Submarine." |
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 28, 2024 15:47:27 GMT -5
Oops a mistake! I am not surprised there was a difference. With that many songs and the different variables involved in constructing charts, you would have to have some differences. Also interesting that "Let it Be" entered the Cash Box chart at #32 but at #6 in Billboard.
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Post by woolebull on Feb 28, 2024 16:00:31 GMT -5
Just finished my, I think, last February show for this year. CT 2/27/98. And David Perry again on the mic. He did a good job, got to hear R.J. Reynolds High's Ben Folds so that was cool. A couple of things stood out about this show:
1) I find it almost inconceivable that "Fly" by Sugar Ray and "Torn" by Natalie Imbruglia are that close to each other on this chart. And it shows one of the inerrant problems for me and shows from this time. For me, "Fly" will always be a summer of 97 song. "Torn" late spring, early summer of 98 song. That "Fly" is still in the top 20 at the end of February of 1998 is just wild. And it's not like it was the only song that stayed months in the upper echelons of the charts during that time. I can see why I didn't pay much attention to CT in real time in 1998.
2) After "Tubthumping" Perry, as only Perry could say it, gently says with the first words of the outro, "Those are British anarchists posing as a rock band". I mean, he wasn't wrong however certainly Was not expecting that and laughed very hard while I was running!
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 28, 2024 16:19:49 GMT -5
That chart situation you described woolebull is one I don't like too much. A situation that is a byproduct of the monitored airplay system. Yes it is more accurate than the previous system but the slow chart movement is a drawback for countdowns IMO. 2/27/98 is during Casey's second countdown hiatus. There were 5 months between his first and second stints, 5 weeks between his second and third stints.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Feb 28, 2024 16:59:40 GMT -5
I had downloaded every single Cash Box and Rewind Countdown show that Joe posted (158 total shows between them). Many of them are in hour-long segments; I further split them into show segments (he did four per hour). I can just load whichever ones I want on a flash drive, like for a road trip (which I take on occasion for various reasons). Or just listen anytime, without relying on an online server.
I also have just about every AT40 CHR show from this decade, including last weekend's show. Missing just a few AT40s (only 2006, 2007, 2008, 2020, and 2021 are incomplete, but not by much). Hopefully will have all those by the end of the year.
Starting next year, I'm hoping to listen to many more 60s shows (also got about 50-some of 60s Satellite Survey shows, in addition to the Cash Box shows). I absolutely enjoyed the Rewind Countdown 1960s decade-end top 100 that Joe recently posted. (#1 was no surprise, very deserving!)
Started listening to AT40 from 6/2/1984 in the car this morning. Great set of debuts: Styx, Dan Hartman, ZZ Top, Howard Jones, and Rod Stewart. Three of the five would go top 10.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 28, 2024 18:45:21 GMT -5
OnWithTheCountdown, you are heading to the 60s next year but I am going in the other direction to more of this century next year. Except I see that Charis which I thought had all the AT40 shows, stopped procuring them in 2018, according to their cheat sheet. 3/14/70 earlier and now one day less than 29 years later means that it is the 3/13/99 AT40. Santana was in that 1970 show and at the time of this show, he was in the early stages of recording Supernatural, his comeback CD. 2 of my faves in this show debuted last week and this week. Talking about "Special" by Garbage and "Anything But Down" by Sheryl Crow. Everclear is one of those bands with a 10 year gap in the ages of the members. Art Alexakis(even though Casey pronounced his name, I can't pronounce it!) was 36 and the others were 26.
A major first in the Casey's/America's Biggest/Top Hits. I did not recognize the song! Even more bizarre is that it was by a superstar. It was Elton and "Recover Your Soul". Only reached #47 on the R&R chart. Good song that I may have heard only an an AC or HAC show previously.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Feb 28, 2024 19:30:34 GMT -5
Shannon has all the 2010s shows; that's how I got that part of my collection. I also have the cues; Charis just doesn't have them uploaded yet.
Your faves in that 1999 show are songs I really like as well. Garbage's "Stupid Girl" has been in the 1996 shows I've been listening to at work; that's one of my favorites of theirs. "Anything But Down" should have peaked higher than it did. Same for its predecessor, "My Favorite Mistake".
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 28, 2024 19:42:44 GMT -5
Shannon or Charis have this decade's shows? Garbage should have had more hits though I have not heard any of their other songs. Ok Casey steps up to the plate and strikes out. He talks about the Everlast CD Whitey Ford Sings the Blues. The Whitey Ford part. Says that his .690 average(meant winning percentage) was the highest for any MLB pitcher in the 20th century. Then he said that in the World Series against the Reds in 1960 and Pirates in 1961, that he compiled 22 and 2/3rd shutout innings for the Yankees. Except the opponents were flipped...it was the Pirates in 60 and the Reds in 61. Then he really struck out when he said Whitey had broken the record set in the 1920s by Babe Ruth with the Boston Red Sox. Uh, he either got the years or the team wrong. The Babe did indeed pitch in World Series for the Red Sox. But that was in the 1910s and then he was traded to the Yanks in 1920 and played in World Series for them in the 20s. I could look this up but I think the record was set with Boston so Casey got the team right but the years wrong. It was in the teens not the 20s! Imagine getting something like that wrong involving teams with the intense rivalry that they have had over the years!
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Feb 28, 2024 20:35:45 GMT -5
Yes, Shannon has AT40s from this decade (both CHR & HAC). I'm not sure what the most recent show that he has, though. I got the HAC year-end shows for 2020 and 2021 from him last year (he didn't have 2022 yet then; might have it now). One song I really like on the current chart is Dua Lipa's "Houdini". She's been one of my favorite pop artists this decade (really, going back to late 2017.)
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 28, 2024 21:03:27 GMT -5
I'll second and third that last comment but I go back to early 2017. Her first hit blew me way, "Blow Your Mind". I was really tempted to have a T shirt made with the phrase 'If you don't like the way I rock, then finish your glass of wine'.
Here's a good snapshot into how pop music changed in 5 years. In early 1999, Sarah McLachlan was reaching #4 with "Angel". Then in early 2004 she could only get to #41 with "Fallin", a similar sounding song that I prefer. But hip hop had taken over by then leaving AC hits like that to struggle on the chart.
Casey says 'Cher is closing in on her first #1 hit since "Half Breed" in 1973'. That's the #1 song in the first issue of R&R. Did not get it btw. So despite referring to AT40 chart data occasionally once AT40 restarted, this time Casey sticks with R&R. As Cher did get to #1 in 1974 on AT40.
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