AT20 show for 1/7/06

[Michael1973]

This weekend was the first official AT20 countdown of 2006, and it was really bizarre. I'm not sure which week's chart Casey was using, but the "last week" positions were apparently from the 12/16/05 HotAC chart which was never heard on AT20. Talk about confusing! Making it even more strange were all the unusually large moves over the holiday break.

Did anyone else hear this?

[Hervard]

michael1973 said:

This weekend was the first official AT20 countdown of 2006, and it was really bizarre. I'm not sure which week's chart Casey was using, but the "last week" positions were apparently from the 12/16/05 HotAC chart which was never heard on AT20.

At least there wasn't a song whose only week at #1 was on the 12/16/05 HotAC chart ("Daughters", anyone?)

[Radioman]

This is nothing really strange or confusing.
The first show of the new year has always refered to the LAST WEEKLY CHART of December,
the week before Christmas and before the YE charts were published.
Since there is no new chart during the production date of the first show, this practice is good for about 16 years now, as long as they use R&R charts on Casey's shows.

[Matt Cameron]

On the first regular weekly show of the year they ought to just do the chart without listing up-or-down movements and "last week's positions". It makes it look like the only week you have significant chart movements is the first week of the year.

[Scott Lakefield]

The only times they haven't listed positions from the previous chart is when they changed charts. For instance, I was listening to 1/9/93's AT40 show today, which is the first one to use the Mainstream Radio Monitor chart (which Shadoe "mentioned" by saying "Are you ready to enter the musical mainstream?" at the top of the show). No positions from the previous regular countdown are mentioned.

[Hervard]

A few years ago, I listened to the tail end of the first AT20 show of 1999 and there was no mention of chart movement, even though they hadn't switched charts or anything.

As for liberaljag's mention of "significant chart movement" - there is very seldom any "significant chart movement" in the Top 20 of the Hot AC chart, even on the first chart of the year, so I don't see any reason that they should not mention chart movement, especially for people who didn't get to hear the last regular show of the year because their station pre-empted it with Christmas music.

[Matt Cameron]

I'm talking about in the scenario mentioned above, when "last week's chart" is from a month or so ago, not last week. I know there is seldom any chart movement on the Hot AC chart, or the AC chart for that matter.

They end up listing 8 or 9 "debut" songs, most of which actually "Debuted" in the top 20 one or more weeks ago. It sounds forced and more than a little strange.

Used to happen on AT40 after the 2-week year end chart show. Whole bunch of debuts and some massive moves up the chart that actually happened over a period of weeks, not just one week. Can't say what AT40's practice is these days, as I don't listen to it anymore.

[Radioman]

As it is mentioned above, the first show of the year uses chart data wich is already more than 3 weeks old. Since listeners probably not heard any current countdown for weeks, why should they relate any song to prior weeks positions ? Others they had to say moving from xxx 3 weeks ago to N°xxx this week. Does this make sense ?

If you looked closely to the Casey's Top 40 charts years ago, or Casey's AT40 until 2003, the most chart movements always happened on the second show of the new year, sometimes the third show, if it has an early broadcasting date. These shows used the first new compiled chart data of the year.
Seems to be the same with AT20, but you might not recognize it because of the lower chart movement in Hot AC formats.

[Michael1973]

Actually, for the last few years Casey has skipped over the last published chart from December. For the first countdown of January, he'd use an unpublished chart. However, he always used the "last week" positions from his last regular show. This year he did not do that.

Now, can someone tell me if there was a chart published for the week of 12/23/05?

[Shadoe Fan]

R&R did publish a chart dated 12/23/05. That was the last regular chart for 2005. The first weekly chart of 2006 will be 1/13/06.

[BrettVW]

I missed the show this weekend due to vacation. Can anyone send me a copy of the chart (don't give away anything from the upcoming show this coming week). I always enjoy hearing the chart oddities of the first show of the year, and am a bit bummed I missed it this weekend. First AT20 show I miss in almost two years, and I come back from vacation to find an entire thread dedicated to it!

[BrettVW]

I just listened to the show (after listening to the show from the 14th & 15th...talk about confusing). It definately was weird to hear things like "up 3 notches that was Fall Out Boy" when we had never heard Sugar We're Going Down on AT20.

Also, during his # 1 story...Casey mentions Nickelback hit number one with How You Remind Me. HYRM actually peaked at # 2 on the HAC chart, although it did climb to # 1 on the Pop chart and was the # 1 pop song of 2002.

And finally....does anyone know what the optional extra song was for Hour 3 of that show?

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brettvw said:

I just listened to the show (after listening to the show from the 14th & 15th...talk about confusing). It definately was weird to hear things like "up 3 notches that was Fall Out Boy" when we had never heard Sugar We're Going Down on AT20.

Also, during his # 1 story...Casey mentions Nickelback hit number one with How You Remind Me. HYRM actually peaked at # 2 on the HAC chart, although it did climb to # 1 on the Pop chart and was the # 1 pop song of 2002.

And finally....does anyone know what the optional extra song was for Hour 3 of that show?

sorry, KBIG doesnt run the optional extra in hour 3