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Post by Scott Lakefield on Jun 7, 2005 22:09:54 GMT -5
I would assume it was due to contractual obligations between WW1 and the stations. Actually, I bet it's a matter of WW1 being in a legal fight with Casey (remember, this case went to court...they didn't want Casey to jump ship on them), and thinking that they would win and that AT40 wouldn't return and AMFM wouldn't be a player. Obviously, when AMFM "debuted" AT40 on 3/28/98, WW1 knew that battle was lost. I truly believe anything else was nothing more than a coincidence. |
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Post by Matt Cameron on Jun 7, 2005 23:23:53 GMT -5
But WW1 didn't produce any of the three countdowns for the week that AT40/20/20 premiered, right? Or are those shows in the same closet with the CT40 shows and Shadoe -era AT40's that Premire bought?
They only had the sub-hosts announce that they were filling in for Casey for the first two of the four weekends, then on the last two weekends, the names go generic and Casey doesn't exist. And AM/FM was taking out ads in trade papers regarding the rebirth of AT40 months in advance, right? WW1 may have been in some form of denial about the situation, but they had to know the writing was on the wall and they were effectively out of the countdown business at that point.
Maybe they did the shows for that month as a show of good faith to their member stations. Anyone know the percentage of CT40/20/20 stations that aired those "generic" shows?
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Jun 12, 2005 13:03:15 GMT -5
Simple...I'd say chalk it up to corporate ego. Sure, they saw the ads. Sure, they knew AMFM wanted Casey and Casey wanted AMFM. But, that lawsuit was still in the courts, and when you file a lawsuit, it's with the expectation of winning it. So I still say WW1 thought Casey was coming back to THEM...until AT40 hit the airwaves 3/28/98. Were "generic" shows produced for that week by WW1? Dunno. But an interesting thought.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2005 13:15:04 GMT -5
I think I remember reading somewhere that no, they no longer produced anything following 3/21/98's show
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Jun 12, 2005 21:08:55 GMT -5
If anyone has one of those shows handy, see how the host ended the show by comparison with the previous week's "generic" countdown...did he say "join us again next week" in either case?
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Post by jlbass on Jun 12, 2005 22:11:26 GMT -5
I have a question. I don't know what Premiere's plans for using the Casey's Top 40 shows it purchased from WW1 are, if any have been made. But the point has been made that WW1 may very well want the world to forget that they ever broadcast the show and I was wondering if Premiere did decide to enter into an agreement with a company to broadcast those shows, could WW1 stop them from doing so? I'm sure this question came up when XM made the arrangements to broadcast Casey AT40s from the 1970s and 1980s, although Rob's book makes the point that ABC Watermark lost its rights over the show between 1995 and 1998 and they returned to Casey and Don.
Reading these posts caused me to wonder about this.
John
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2005 2:07:10 GMT -5
When did Premiere buy WW1's shows?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2005 2:08:02 GMT -5
If anyone has one of those shows handy, see how the host ended the show by comparison with the previous week's "generic" countdown...did he say "join us again next week" in either case? As best I remember, he did say "join us next week" because I believe I remember chuckling and saying "God, i hope not" |
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Post by mstgator on Jun 13, 2005 2:24:35 GMT -5
If anyone has one of those shows handy, see how the host ended the show by comparison with the previous week's "generic" countdown...did he say "join us again next week" in either case? Had to dig out my old off-air cassette copies of CT40 (which was a shock of nostalgia... I had forgotten that WFLZ ever played "Summertime" by the Sundays). Anyways... On 3/14/98, David Perry ends the credits with: "Be sure to join us next week when once again we'll count down the biggest hits in the USA." The following week, Jeff Wyatt ends with the exact same line. Also of note, they continued to give the address and fax number to submit R&D's and questions even on the final show. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2005 7:48:57 GMT -5
wow...another near local. Do you listen to MJ at all?
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Post by mstgator on Jun 13, 2005 10:56:23 GMT -5
wow...another near local. Do you listen to MJ at all? Used to listen to him all the time... not so much anymore (a few minutes a day at most). By the time I wake up and get ready for work, most of his show is over, and my car radio doesn't work at the moment.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2005 13:51:07 GMT -5
I can;t hear him here unless the atmosphere is just right, But I used to listen to him everyday in Cowford, it is syndicated there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2005 13:51:27 GMT -5
woohoo! just hit 400th post!
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Jun 13, 2005 13:57:30 GMT -5
On 3/14/98, David Perry ends the credits with: "Be sure to join us next week when once again we'll count down the biggest hits in the USA." The following week, Jeff Wyatt ends with the exact same line. Also of note, they continued to give the address and fax number to submit R&D's and questions even on the final show. This COULD be telling us that there was a show planned for the following week. However, this could be nothing more than someone forgetting to change a "boiler plate" script. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2005 14:20:52 GMT -5
The hosts were clueless too, some guy who hadn't hosted a show before(although he sounded good) and another who claimed to all the world"I'm Casey Kasem" on radio...imagine that, someone forgot to change the script.
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