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Post by Showman on Apr 7, 2013 7:05:32 GMT -5
After a great start 'Layla' bores me to tears with the never ending instrumental outro.
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Post by rayshae3 on Apr 7, 2013 10:59:26 GMT -5
I can think of quite a few, but one that really sticks out for me is the infamous 45 mix of Leo Sayer's "When I Need You." I wonder who's "brilliant" idea it was to put all those dang sax parts in, anyway??? Warner Bros., or, heaven forbid, Leo himself?? Having heard both versions, I strongly believe that they should have left well enough alone and just released the song as it was. The sax parts spoil the simple beauty of what is, otherwise, a gorgeous little tune. I think sax inclusion was more or less a part of the production trend around the second half to the end of the Seventies/early Eighties. The prime example was the middle sax part in Al Stewart’s “Year of the Cat” But I have a couple of examples the other way around: Songs that I thought ended better in outro than their general rhythm for the rest of the songs: -“Sail On” by Commodores. It sounded so much like a country song I thought it might at least go Top 10 Country (back when the song was fresh in 1979.) But I always liked how the last minute of the song twisted and became different. -“The Chain” by Fleetwood Mac. Not a single but played enough on AOR FM stations especially when ‘Rumours’ was huge. IMO, I liked the picking up the pace at the end far better than the rest of the track.
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Post by michaelcasselman on Apr 7, 2013 12:55:52 GMT -5
Say You, Say Me: I liked when the tempo picked up in the middle of the song, but was disappointed when it slowed back down to a ballad for the end.
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Post by woolebull on Apr 7, 2013 13:00:58 GMT -5
"Hard To Say I'm Sorry/Get Away"...it must have been two or three months into it before I realized that there was another song attached to "HTSIS". I like "Get Away" but it just seemed out of place, like a musical was about to break out or something.
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Post by erik on Apr 7, 2013 19:45:52 GMT -5
I love the opening of Kool & The Gang's "Higher Plane." It was the first 20 seconds with the bass and the "Higher" chant, and I always wished that part of the song would have been more prominent through the end. It would have been quite a smooth groove.
Heck, I like it so much that I recently edited the opening 20 seconds into a repeating loop to use as my primary iPhone ring tone.
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Post by 1finemrg on Apr 7, 2013 21:31:48 GMT -5
Showman: I guess one man's garbage is another man's gold. The instrumental outro on Layla to me is classic led by Clapton's guitar and Duane Allman's piano. Maybe it's because I like instrumental tracks.
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Post by caseyfan100 on Apr 7, 2013 21:59:36 GMT -5
Jim Gordon,who co-wrote Layla with Eric Clapton,played the piano "coda" not Duane Allman. Allman played guitar on the record. Gordon was one of the drummers along with the other session musicians in Los Angeles known as the Wrecking Crew.
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Post by tarobe on Apr 7, 2013 23:22:33 GMT -5
"Won't Get Fooled Again" gets very tedious with that synthesizer riff towards the end. I know the single that charted and was the hit was edited and removes most of the synth, but the edit is choppy and sounds weird to me. IT REALLY breaks down.
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Post by mkarns on Apr 7, 2013 23:44:11 GMT -5
Double's "Captain Of Her Heart" always frustrated me back in 1986. I LOVE the song, however it only has one verse of lyrics and a chorus. Great music, however. Still wanted a heck of a lot more from the lyrics. Gary Numan's "Cars" is similar. One verse, part of another, and then it's just synthesizer music from then on. It's catchy and sounds good , but doesn't feel like a complete song.
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Post by 1finemrg on Apr 8, 2013 20:09:00 GMT -5
Brain cramp! You're right caseyfan100, thanks for the reminder. Never get tired of it.
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Post by chrislc on Apr 10, 2013 16:44:08 GMT -5
I can think of quite a few, but one that really sticks out for me is the infamous 45 mix of Leo Sayer's "When I Need You." I wonder who's "brilliant" idea it was to put all those dang sax parts in, anyway??? Warner Bros., or, heaven forbid, Leo himself?? Having heard both versions, I strongly believe that they should have left well enough alone and just released the song as it was. The sax parts spoil the simple beauty of what is, otherwise, a gorgeous little tune. I agree about When I Need You, and I think the same about You Are The Sunshine Of My Life. The version without the added horns is a much classier sound.
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Post by Hervard on Apr 12, 2013 11:42:05 GMT -5
Double's "Captain Of Her Heart" always frustrated me back in 1986. I LOVE the song, however it only has one verse of lyrics and a chorus. Great music, however. Still wanted a heck of a lot more from the lyrics. Gary Numan's "Cars" is similar. One verse, part of another, and then it's just synthesizer music from then on. It's catchy and sounds good , but doesn't feel like a complete song. Still another song - "Colour My World" by Chicago. Two thirds of the song is instrumental and the only lyrics consist of a single verse with six lines. If the song was any shorter, it just might have been classified as an instrumental.
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Post by 1finemrg on Apr 12, 2013 12:32:40 GMT -5
Still another song - "Colour My World" by Chicago. Two thirds of the song is instrumental and the only lyrics consist of a single verse with six lines. If the song was any shorter, it just might have been classified as an instrumental. I think the reason "Colour My World" is categorized as falling apart is that the single is pulled from a suite of songs titled "Ballad For A Girl In Buchannon" on Chicago II. I'm guessing that it wasn't intended to be thought of individually. It's only when Columbia issued it as the "B" side of "Make Me Smile" and also "Beginnings" that the song was heard on its own.
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Post by matt on Apr 12, 2013 16:52:36 GMT -5
Gary Numan's "Cars" is similar. One verse, part of another, and then it's just synthesizer music from then on. It's catchy and sounds good , but doesn't feel like a complete song. Yeah but...the synthesizers are what makes that song. Let's face it--it would not likely have been much of a hit if the song had been built around Gary's robotic vocals.
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Post by mga707 on Apr 12, 2013 21:15:31 GMT -5
Gary Numan's "Cars" is similar. One verse, part of another, and then it's just synthesizer music from then on. It's catchy and sounds good , but doesn't feel like a complete song. Yeah but...the synthesizers are what makes that song. Let's face it--it would not likely have been much of a hit if the song had been built around Gary's robotic vocals. Yes, as a singer Gary Numan's a good pilot! ;D (He has a commercial license and used to run his own light aircraft charter operation--Numanair--in Britain.)
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