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Post by chrislc on Apr 5, 2013 18:07:54 GMT -5
Any Casey era songs you can think of it that start great but then go nowhere? Half baked, so to speak?
The one I always think of is This Will Be by Natalie Cole.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 19:44:04 GMT -5
You mean song as in the actual song or chart movement? If its the latter "Betcha By Golly Wow" by Prince in 1996 immediately comes to mind.
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Post by cachiva on Apr 6, 2013 0:26:35 GMT -5
That's right, Paul. Half baked chart movement.
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Post by doomsdaymachine on Apr 6, 2013 1:56:35 GMT -5
In 1970, James Brown's "Sex Machine" leaped from #30 to #15, only to retain the same position the next week and then start dropping. Like, huh???
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Post by woolebull on Apr 6, 2013 4:19:12 GMT -5
"It's Raining Again" debuted in the Hot 100 at 31 in October of 1982 and "All Right" debuted in the Hot 100 at 29 in January of 1983. Neither would hit the Top 10.
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Post by chrislc on Apr 6, 2013 4:27:31 GMT -5
Well, actually I wasn't clear, but I did mean the songs themselves, although sometimes the breakdown in chart movement might have had something to do with this flaw in the songs.
I always thought This Will Be had such a dramatic and dynamic first minute or so, but then it just fell apart into scatting and screaming.
So that's the kind of thing I was asking about. Sorry.
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Post by mga707 on Apr 6, 2013 16:44:10 GMT -5
I've always thought that "Another Brick In the Wall" starts out great but rapidly gets repetitious. It really needs another verse like the spoken word verse at the start. Didn't stop it from being a multi-week #1 song, so others must not feel like I do!
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Post by woolebull on Apr 6, 2013 16:58:49 GMT -5
Staying in 1980...as much as I love Rupert Holmes, I hated the way "Answering Machine" ended. I mean it was already quirky, but the payoff seemed a little bush league for someone like Rupert Holmes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 17:22:39 GMT -5
I've always thought that "Another Brick In the Wall" starts out great but rapidly gets repetitious. It really needs another verse like the spoken word verse at the start. Didn't stop it from being a multi-week #1 song, so others must not feel like I do! I agree only because I think the ending instrumental and whatever that dude is rambling about is just there to fill time. Another verse and making it end like a typical song would have been good.
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Post by Mike on Apr 6, 2013 17:35:19 GMT -5
I've always thought that "Another Brick In the Wall" starts out great but rapidly gets repetitious. It really needs another verse like the spoken word verse at the start. Didn't stop it from being a multi-week #1 song, so others must not feel like I do! Producer Bob Ezrin agreed with you, saying it needed two verses and two choruses. The band's response: "Well you're not bloody getting them. We don't do singles, so f**k you."
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Post by mga707 on Apr 6, 2013 17:47:53 GMT -5
I've always thought that "Another Brick In the Wall" starts out great but rapidly gets repetitious. It really needs another verse like the spoken word verse at the start. Didn't stop it from being a multi-week #1 song, so others must not feel like I do! Producer Bob Ezrin agreed with you, saying it needed two verses and two choruses. The band's response: "Well you're not bloody getting them. We don't do singles, so f**k you." Love it! I can just picture Roger Waters getting all self-righteous and offended when Ezrin told him that! ;D
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Post by mkarns on Apr 6, 2013 19:09:52 GMT -5
I've always thought that "Another Brick In the Wall" starts out great but rapidly gets repetitious. It really needs another verse like the spoken word verse at the start. Didn't stop it from being a multi-week #1 song, so others must not feel like I do! Same for "Ebony and Ivory", which is just one verse and chorus sung twice, with the line "Ebony, ivory, living in perfect harmony" repeated over and over in between. You'd think that artists on the level of Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder could have come up with more, and better. Actually I can't really say that song falls apart, as I'm not impressed with it from the beginning. But it too was a multi-week #1 so not everyone must have agreed.
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Post by vto66 on Apr 6, 2013 20:30:23 GMT -5
I can think of quite a few, but one that really sticks out for me is the infamous 45 mix of Leo Sayer's "When I Need You." I wonder who's "brilliant" idea it was to put all those dang sax parts in, anyway??? Warner Bros., or, heaven forbid, Leo himself?? Having heard both versions, I strongly believe that they should have left well enough alone and just released the song as it was. The sax parts spoil the simple beauty of what is, otherwise, a gorgeous little tune.
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Post by tpanther775 on Apr 6, 2013 20:39:10 GMT -5
Staying in 1980...as much as I love Rupert Holmes, I hated the way "Answering Machine" ended. I mean it was already quirky, but the payoff seemed a little bush league for someone like Rupert Holmes. Couldn't agree more. I was like what the heck but I guess he wanted you to have that feeling of wanting more. It's a shame this song is ignored, I guess it's because it's really dated. Still out of his hit songs I prefer "Him". That was a great song, cant understand why it's ignored by radio.
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Post by woolebull on Apr 7, 2013 6:25:45 GMT -5
Double's "Captain Of Her Heart" always frustrated me back in 1986. I LOVE the song, however it only has one verse of lyrics and a chorus. Great music, however. Still wanted a heck of a lot more from the lyrics.
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