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Post by Shadoe Fan on Jul 18, 2013 17:54:45 GMT -5
Ok. Honestly didn't know. Didn't hear the show in 92 and don't remember the movement in 94. I'm actually wondering in those latter years though if moving up 3 to #1 WAS the biggest move, and "That's the Way Love Goes" also climbed 3 to #1. The songs you guessed were the first ones that came to my mind too. It seems like while there were occasional big moves below the top 10 or even into the top 10, once a song got there it took smaller moves to get to #1. |
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Post by mct1 on Jul 18, 2013 18:30:11 GMT -5
[I was trying to think of other big leaps to number one between "UA/AH" and "Blurred Lines". I don't know the 70's charts well enough to comment on those. In the 80's, was "Rapture" the biggest jumper from 6 (or 7) to 1? In the 90's, I do remember "I Don't Wanna Cry" jumped, I think from 8-1 in 1991 but I can't tell you for sure about any songs after the revamping in November of that year. See this thread, about eight posts down: at40fg.proboards.com/thread/2611/huge-leaps-number-1 |
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Post by woolebull on Jul 18, 2013 18:38:26 GMT -5
[I was trying to think of other big leaps to number one between "UA/AH" and "Blurred Lines". I don't know the 70's charts well enough to comment on those. In the 80's, was "Rapture" the biggest jumper from 6 (or 7) to 1? In the 90's, I do remember "I Don't Wanna Cry" jumped, I think from 8-1 in 1991 but I can't tell you for sure about any songs after the revamping in November of that year. See this thread, about eight posts down: at40fg.proboards.com/thread/2611/huge-leaps-number-1Thank you mct1. So Blondie was indeed the only jumper out of the Top 5 to 1 in the 80's, and only two songs did it in the 90's on AT's run through 1/95: "I Don't Wanna Cry" and after the change in charts "I Swear" (6 to 1). With the congestion on the charts the way it is today, and with some really big hits to hurdle, what Thicke will do is one of the most amazing feats I've seen on AT 40. That is absolutely crazy. I knew that the song was hot...I didn't realize that it was historically hot. (Of course, that is assuming no song did it from 1995 until the present on CT and then AT...if anyone knows of a song that did so, please chime in). |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 18:38:32 GMT -5
Oh wow, forgot all about "I Swear." Is it just me or for a big hit is that one of the forgettable #1s of not only the decade but that year?
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Post by woolebull on Jul 18, 2013 21:00:55 GMT -5
Oh wow, forgot all about "I Swear." Is it just me or for a big hit is that one of the forgettable #1s of not only the decade but that year? I'm with you on that. Of the vocal groups from that time, they are the ones (along with 4 PM) that I just don't think about. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2013 16:06:24 GMT -5
Question about this weeks jump to #1 on AT40 and I hope it's understood I am not raining on the show or songs parade. Do we know if this is a legitimate jump to #1? Or is it some kind of glitch in their chart program (like a little over 40 years ago for example)?
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Post by woolebull on Jul 19, 2013 16:38:12 GMT -5
Question about this weeks jump to #1 on AT40 and I hope it's understood I am not raining on the show or songs parade. Do we know if this is a legitimate jump to #1? Or is it some kind of glitch in their chart program (like a little over 40 years ago for example)? Good question. I'm curious as well. If any song is going to legitimately do it, it would be this song. On Rick, it has jumped something like 20-9-5. AT was pretty spectacular as well until last week when it went up one notch. Hot 100 (FWIT) it's been at number one for like seven weeks, holding a very hot Daft Punk off for like the last four weeks. I think the tell tale sign will be how much shift all the other songs do as well. I haven't seen the chart yet, I'm just taking the word of the board so far. |
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Jul 19, 2013 17:11:00 GMT -5
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Post by mstgator on Jul 19, 2013 20:09:49 GMT -5
This is one of the (many) problems I have with the current incarnation of AT40. It's kind of a good thing that they focus more on celebrity gossip than chart movements, since they're essentially meaningless when you don't use a standard chart with a standard timeframe.
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Post by woolebull on Jul 19, 2013 23:03:02 GMT -5
This is one of the (many) problems I have with the current incarnation of AT40. It's kind of a good thing that they focus more on celebrity gossip than chart movements, since they're essentially meaningless when you don't use a standard chart with a standard timeframe. It is annoying that they were playing catch up, seemingly. Still, it probably would have gone in at 1 from 5 or 6 and jumped Daft Punk and Selena Gomez which is impressive in its own right. How long have they been doing the chart the way they are currently doing it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 3:59:29 GMT -5
Catch up? From what?
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Jul 20, 2013 8:19:51 GMT -5
^When Ryan is busy doing something else and/or when a guest host is doing the show, it appears they often use a chart based on a mid week chart, rather than a usual end of the week chart. I'm guessing this is done in order to fit in the recording of the show when Ryan/guest host is available. Eventually the show goes back to its usual chart schedule, which is the "catch up" week.
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Post by woolebull on Jul 20, 2013 9:00:15 GMT -5
That's interesting...thank you for enlightening us on that. Personally, while I don't use the charts AT does for my own personal reference, it is interesting to see the understanding on why we are seeing something we haven't seen on the program in 40 + years. I've learned that when it comes to most unique chart action, there is usually some reason coupled with popularity (or lack thereof) that makes songs do crazy things. I don't think any of us believe that it was mere coincidence that the two biggest droppers from 1 in the history of AT 40, "Nothing From Nothing" and "Then Came You",happened within a week of each other. And I don't know what was going on in 1982, but it seems there were many catch up weeks then as well when we had at least four songs fall out of AT 40 from the Top 10. Shadoe Fan can tell you that when Mariah jumped from 8-1 with "I Don't Wanna Cry", the charts were in crazy flux for whatever reason. In fact, I believe two weeks before "Cry" went 8-1, "Joyride" dropped from 1-7. The 1991 charts would continue to go crazy until they were revamped at the end of November of that year. Charts have been corrupted, inadvertently or not, for a long long time. What Robin Thicke did, or more importantly what AT 40 did, hopefully will be debated for a long time. That means that people are talking about Top 40 music...and that's usually a good thing  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 11:42:08 GMT -5
Part of 92 was Billboard trying to work out their issues in the new system I think. Another reason why I do not recognize AT40 as the chart authority 11/30/91 and beyond.
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Post by johnnywest on Jul 20, 2013 16:02:51 GMT -5
While we're discussing the current AT40, I'll note that Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines" this week jumps from #11 to #1--not the all time biggest AT40 or CT40 leap to the top, but biggest since when? I think it's since "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" in 1971, but am not sure. Correct. Ryan mentioned that this week when introducing the #1 song. |
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