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Post by mga707 on Nov 29, 2021 12:00:51 GMT -5
Weekend of 12/11... 12/12/81!! www.charismusicgroup.com/Cue%20Sheets/12-12-81.pdfLast played 2012 w/extras: Hour #1: "WKRP In Cincinnati" - Steve Carlisle Hour #2: "Just Can't Get Enough" - Depeche Mode Hour #3: "Take It Easy On Me" - Little River Band Hour #4: "Working For The Weekend" - Loverboy I have a feeling the first extra will be replaced. The second one is the 'headscratcher' for me--an uncharted song I've neither heard nor heard of. Why was it an extra? As for 'WKRP', most know it even though it wasn't a big chart hit (#65). Always thought it odd that it was released as a single during the show's final fourth season.
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Post by listenerwants2know on Nov 29, 2021 12:10:04 GMT -5
I have a feeling the first extra will be replaced. The second one is the 'headscratcher' for me--an uncharted song I've neither heard nor heard of. Why was it an extra? As for 'WKRP', most know it even though it wasn't a big chart hit (#65). Always thought it odd that it was released as a single during the show's final fourth season. Maybe to learn a little more about the beginnings of "Depeche Mode": Vince Clark delivered his first dance number with "Just Can´t Get Enough". Before that he was not a big fan of dance floor music. But he later stated that the Spandau ballet song "To Cut A Long Story Short" from 1980 convinced him that it was possible to write really good dance songs. He told Rolling Stone magazine in 2000: "That was really the very first song that got me excited about this boom-thwack, boom-thwack. So I started writing a song around a rhythm, for the first time". And "Just Can´t Get Enough" was released. Depeche fashion singer Dave Gahan recognized a significant change at the parties. For him, the punk movement had come to an end. The kids in the discos needed a new sound, less aggressive but euphoric and danceable. "Just Can´t Get Enough" hits this very core. Dave Gahan described the recordings to Q magazine as follows: "Vince Clarke was the boss at the time. When we went into the studio for ´Just Can´t Get Enough´, Vince Clarke was bored all the time. He didn´t like the idea of having to deal with the band. We had to try to avoid conflicts. Fortunately, we had played the song before, so we came into the studio and recorded it as if we were playing live".
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Post by listenerwants2know on Nov 29, 2021 12:12:22 GMT -5
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Post by at40nut on Nov 29, 2021 12:19:03 GMT -5
I have a feeling the first extra will be replaced. The second one is the 'headscratcher' for me--an uncharted song I've neither heard nor heard of. Why was it an extra? As for 'WKRP', most know it even though it wasn't a big chart hit (#65). Always thought it odd that it was released as a single during the show's final fourth season. "As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly" Why not leave it in?
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Post by mga707 on Nov 29, 2021 12:32:34 GMT -5
The second one is the 'headscratcher' for me--an uncharted song I've neither heard nor heard of. Why was it an extra? As for 'WKRP', most know it even though it wasn't a big chart hit (#65). Always thought it odd that it was released as a single during the show's final fourth season. Maybe to learn a little more about the beginnings of "Depeche Mode": Vince Clark delivered his first dance number with "Just Can´t Get Enough". Before that he was not a big fan of dance floor music. But he later stated that the Spandau ballet song "To Cut A Long Story Short" from 1980 convinced him that it was possible to write really good dance songs. He told Rolling Stone magazine in 2000: "That was really the very first song that got me excited about this boom-thwack, boom-thwack. So I started writing a song around a rhythm, for the first time". And "Just Can´t Get Enough" was released. Depeche fashion singer Dave Gahan recognized a significant change at the parties. For him, the punk movement had come to an end. The kids in the discos needed a new sound, less aggressive but euphoric and danceable. "Just Can´t Get Enough" hits this very core. Dave Gahan described the recordings to Q magazine as follows: "Vince Clarke was the boss at the time. When we went into the studio for ´Just Can´t Get Enough´, Vince Clarke was bored all the time. He didn´t like the idea of having to deal with the band. We had to try to avoid conflicts. Fortunately, we had played the song before, so we came into the studio and recorded it as if we were playing live". Sorry, never a fan of the group or that genre. Ditto for The Cure/The Smiths/Morrisey. Pretentious, IMO. Still wondering why a song that was never a 'Hot 100' single was picked as an extra.
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Post by michaelcasselman on Nov 29, 2021 12:45:45 GMT -5
The DM song has shown up in plenty of soundtracks and commercials in the last 40 years, so it's not like it's a totally unknown entity. {shrug} Seems like this discussion comes up whenever there's an album-cut song used, instead of something strictly off of the Hot 100. Wasn't there a Fleetwood Mac album cut that Premiere used as an extra a few years back? Most of the time it seemed like they erred towards a track of the 'classic rock' variety as opposed to a dance/club hit.
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Post by mkarns on Nov 29, 2021 13:13:02 GMT -5
The DM song has shown up in plenty of soundtracks and commercials in the last 40 years, so it's not like it's a totally unknown entity. {shrug} Seems like this discussion comes up whenever there's an album-cut song used, instead of something strictly off of the Hot 100. Wasn't there a Fleetwood Mac album cut that Premiere used as an extra a few years back? Most of the time it seemed like they erred towards a track of the 'classic rock' variety as opposed to a dance/club hit. "Just Can't Get Enough" has shown up in many places over the years, and it even was the collective name of a series of 15 (IIRC) albums of 80s new wave hits put out by Rhino. Given that plus Depeche Mode's enduring popularity it makes sense as a left-field choice. I think Fleetwood Mac's Rumours album tracks "The Chain" and "Gold Dust Woman" were used as optional extras in 1977 countdowns. While neither was released as a 45, both got and still receive much airplay otherwise, and coming from one of the best selling albums ever they too were good choices.
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Post by Mike on Nov 29, 2021 13:13:19 GMT -5
Seems like this discussion comes up whenever there's an album-cut song used, instead of something strictly off of the Hot 100. See, I actually agree with the perspective that picked extras should either come off the Hot 100 or else otherwise have some hit chart-based proximity (this would refer to the "Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming"s and "Into the Groove"s of the world, where the song would otherwise have been a significant - probably Top 10 - hit on the Hot 100, had it been issued as a single at the time). That provision, IMO, adds a level of distinguishing these from other "flashback"-based programs such as Backtrax, which - do their selections really have any rhyme or reason aside from the given time period? All this is to say I'd also lean towards ditching "Just Can't Get Enough" this time around, as opposed to "WKRP".
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Post by michaelcasselman on Nov 29, 2021 13:35:09 GMT -5
I'm not sure I understand the controversy over 'WKRP', either. I think I've heard it played more in the last 2-3 years (frequent rotation over on the Yacht Rock station... which is no small feat considering how many Loggins/McDonald/Steely Dan/etc songs take up that channel) than I ever heard it back when it was released.
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Post by mkarns on Nov 29, 2021 13:42:32 GMT -5
I'm not sure I understand the controversy over 'WKRP', either. I think I've heard it played more in the last 2-3 years (frequent rotation over on the Yacht Rock station... which is no small feat considering how many Loggins/McDonald/Steely Dan/etc songs take up that channel) than I ever heard it back when it was released. Judging from its relatively low peak position, when it was released most probably only heard it on TV, if that. But the show's lasting popularity (it's said to have become more broadly popular in reruns than in its original four years) overcomes the chart stats.
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Post by jblues on Nov 29, 2021 15:18:27 GMT -5
For those having issues with dropped streams and the Christmas music dilemma... Although WTOJ is my 'home station' throughout the year, the flip to Christmas music presents issues. After hearing about issues with various other stations flipping to Christmas and technical issues, I've found myself taking advantage of the stations list thread found elsewhere on the board. Tell ya what, folks, there's a lot of good stations out there. For the last few weeks and for the next month I'll set up my recording software and just pick a station off the list, just to see how they present the show(s... both 70's and 80's series). I might even pick 3 or 4 stations to 'test out' every weekend throughout the holiday season. So far, I've had few real disappointments. Yes WNIC (my 'home' station) does this to me every year...so 2 months out of the year, I have to use streaming!
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Post by rgmike on Nov 29, 2021 15:49:37 GMT -5
The DM song has shown up in plenty of soundtracks and commercials in the last 40 years, so it's not like it's a totally unknown entity. {shrug} Seems like this discussion comes up whenever there's an album-cut song used, instead of something strictly off of the Hot 100. Wasn't there a Fleetwood Mac album cut that Premiere used as an extra a few years back? Most of the time it seemed like they erred towards a track of the 'classic rock' variety as opposed to a dance/club hit. "Just Can't Get Enough" has shown up in many places over the years, and it even was the collective name of a series of 15 (IIRC) albums of 80s new wave hits put out by Rhino. Given that plus Depeche Mode's enduring popularity it makes sense as a left-field choice. I think Fleetwood Mac's Rumours album tracks "The Chain" and "Gold Dust Woman" were used as optional extras in 1977 countdowns. While neither was released as a 45, both got and still receive much airplay otherwise, and coming from one of the best selling albums ever they too were good choices. The DM song is in that category of "New Wave" hits that got lots of alternative/Rock of the '80s airplay when it was new, and even tho' not a big chart hit, it gets Classic Hits airplay from accumulated appearances on sound tracks etc. (See also: Romantics "What I Like About You" and -- the song that defines this category for me -- "I Melt With You")
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Post by mkarns on Nov 30, 2021 0:21:48 GMT -5
December 8, 1984 optional extras--same as 2015, but they've seemingly gotten lost in the discussion about 1981.
Hour #1: "Operator" - Midnight Star (#71) Hour #2: "Tenderness" - General Public (#63) Hour #3: "I Want To Know What Love Is" - Foreigner (#45; highest debut) Hour #4: "Neutron Dance" - The Pointer Sisters (#54)
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Post by dth1971 on Nov 30, 2021 7:49:29 GMT -5
I have a feeling the first extra will be replaced. Hopefully with "You Could Have Been With Me". I'd replace "WKRP" with the Moody Blues' "The Voice" to honor the recent passing of one of the members of the Moody Blues group.
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Post by matt on Nov 30, 2021 12:22:32 GMT -5
Weekend of 12/11... 12/12/81!! www.charismusicgroup.com/Cue%20Sheets/12-12-81.pdfLast played 2012 w/extras: Hour #1: "WKRP In Cincinnati" - Steve Carlisle Hour #2: "Just Can't Get Enough" - Depeche Mode Hour #3: "Take It Easy On Me" - Little River Band Hour #4: "Working For The Weekend" - Loverboy I have a feeling the first extra will be replaced. I feel like Premiere was picking a "curveball" extra almost every week for a while back then. This week, the actually picked two! Neither "WKRP" or "Just Can't Get Enough" made the top 40 (and the latter didn't crack the top 100, though it became one of Depeche Mode's signature songs once they became better known). If there are any replacements, I'd push for either of the Rick Springfield or Sneaker cuts that were climbing the charts.
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