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Post by burcjm on Aug 5, 2020 15:49:43 GMT -5
Closest is from 2016: 4/11 and 5/16, four weeks apart. Good call--two '81 shows within five weeks. The first time 4/11/81 was ever played was back in 2011 (also the first time in the series that an April 1981 show was ever aired), when it was just five weeks after 3/7/81. Also 10/10/81, 11/14/81 and 12/19/81 were all aired in 2016. The five week split happened twice in a row there.
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Post by Mike on Aug 6, 2020 1:51:07 GMT -5
Yeah - '81 has multiple five-week splits (the 2011 one being the first), only the one four-.
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Post by seminolefan on Aug 6, 2020 10:36:30 GMT -5
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Post by Hervard on Aug 6, 2020 12:34:06 GMT -5
Yeah - '81 has multiple five-week splits (the 2011 one being the first), only the one four-.Hmm?
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Aug 6, 2020 15:42:59 GMT -5
Yeah - '81 has multiple five-week splits (the 2011 one being the first), only the one four-.Hmm? I got what he meant...his aforementioned reference to spring 2016, the only instance where 1981 was featured four weeks apart (show dates were five weeks apart, however).
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Post by billyonaire on Aug 6, 2020 23:02:03 GMT -5
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Post by mkarns on Aug 7, 2020 0:10:33 GMT -5
Prediction for next week's show: 1st Guess - 8/14/82 2nd Guess - 8/11/84 Another week where there appears to be a clear front-runner. The second guess goes to 1984 for the second straight week, simply because there really aren't any better options. 8/15/87 would be if it hadn't already been played three times since 2012, including a 'B' show spin two years ago. I'm thinking the next 1987 airing will happen Labor Day weekend. I was hoping we would get 8/15/81 (last played in 2009) next weekend, but I don't know that Premiere has ever aired two 1981 'A' shows within a four week period. And you're right on them both! Though the 1984 choice for a B is somewhat surprising given its relative closeness to 1982 (though in April we also had a 82A/84B coupling) and the fact that either of the next two August 1984 shows could have been played this year. 9/8/84, last aired in 2014, looks like the next possible standalone from that year. (I would have liked it if for a B they'd skipped back a week and given 1988 one last spin). 8/15/81 was a longshot since we just had a 1981 A three weeks earlier, but 8/22/81 (last aired in 2014) could go the following week. More likely IMO is 8/24/85, which was last played by itself in 2010.
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Post by matt on Aug 7, 2020 10:18:01 GMT -5
8/15/81 was a longshot since we just had a 1981 A three weeks earlier, but 8/22/81 (last aired in 2014) could go the following week. More likely IMO is 8/24/85, which was last played by itself in 2010. Agree on 8/24/85 -- seems to fit the best for the weekend of August 22nd, even thought it will mean four straight months of 1985. As you mention, it hasn't been played as an 'A' since 2010 (though it was offered as a 'B' in 2016).
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Post by mkarns on Aug 7, 2020 10:38:12 GMT -5
8/15/81 was a longshot since we just had a 1981 A three weeks earlier, but 8/22/81 (last aired in 2014) could go the following week. More likely IMO is 8/24/85, which was last played by itself in 2010. Agree on 8/24/85 -- seems to fit the best for the weekend of August 22nd, even thought it will mean four straight months of 1985. A lot like last year, when Premiere played 1985 standalones in every month but one from May to November, plus the year end show from that year (at least we won't be getting that again.)
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Post by burcjm on Aug 7, 2020 11:46:26 GMT -5
8/22/87 also fits. Not as likely as it aired only 3 years ago but still conceivable, plus 1987 hasn't had a standalone since the second week of June (6/13/87).
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Post by Michael1973 on Aug 7, 2020 13:45:47 GMT -5
Just more evidence of Billboard's wonky chart compilations. On 9/11, it was spending its 4th week at #12, appearing to have peaked. Then, on 9/18 and 9/25, it climbed to #11 and #10, while descending on the Cash Box charts. Donna Summer just HAD to have another top 10. You know what, I think that just might be why that song defied the "many weeks at peak" rule of thumb. Ordinarily, it would have peaked at #12, but since they knew that, with the star/superstar rule, it would have at least two more weeks at #12, they moved it up to #11 on the first of those weeks and #10 the second, as they dropped "Take It Away" by Paul McCartney (which, any other time, would have stayed at #10) down to #11. Then, those songs took huge plunges to their rightful places on the Hot 100 (#59 for Summer and #66 for McCartney, IIRC). So I'm thinking that they possibly bent the rules a little so the Donna Summer song would hit the Top Ten. I always wondered how Take It Away managed a single-notch drop during that crazy era. This might very well explain it.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Aug 7, 2020 21:28:22 GMT -5
And maybe Air Supply's "Even The Nights Are Better" could fit as well. It only spent a single week at its peak of #5, only dropped one notch the following week, and then plummeted out of the 40.
I can only imagine my dumbfounded self back then if I had listened to AT40 regularly; I started in June 1984. My recollections of AT40 before that are spotty. I'm sure I've heard it at times, but didn't make it a priority to catch until 1984.
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Post by mkarns on Aug 7, 2020 23:23:08 GMT -5
And maybe Air Supply's "Even The Nights Are Better" could fit as well. It only spent a single week at its peak of #5, only dropped one notch the following week, and then plummeted out of the 40. I can only imagine my dumbfounded self back then if I had listened to AT40 regularly; I started in June 1984. My recollections of AT40 before that are spotty. I'm sure I've heard it at times, but didn't make it a priority to catch until 1984. Actually it peaked at #5 for two weeks (one of which was guest hosted). Then it slipped to 6, then plunged to #42 on 9/25/82. In his 1980s countdowns, Casey didn't regularly announce droppers until the end of 1983. Earlier in the decade many listeners who wrote down the countdown results each week (something I would do later) must have been pretty confused or confounded several times, wondering where a song that was in or near the top 10 last week went until realizing that it had fallen right out of the top 40.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Aug 8, 2020 5:17:39 GMT -5
And maybe Air Supply's "Even The Nights Are Better" could fit as well. It only spent a single week at its peak of #5, only dropped one notch the following week, and then plummeted out of the 40. I can only imagine my dumbfounded self back then if I had listened to AT40 regularly; I started in June 1984. My recollections of AT40 before that are spotty. I'm sure I've heard it at times, but didn't make it a priority to catch until 1984. Actually it peaked at #5 for two weeks (one of which was guest hosted). Then it slipped to 6, then plunged to #42 on 9/25/82. In his 1980s countdowns, Casey didn't regularly announce droppers until the end of 1983. Earlier in the decade many listeners who wrote down the countdown results each week (something I would do later) must have been pretty confused or confounded several times, wondering where a song that was in or near the top 10 last week went until realizing that it had fallen right out of the top 40. Thank you. I had forgotten about that second week at #5. And it had spent three straight weeks at #6 before that. I'm sure if I was listening to AT40 regularly then, I would've thought it was peaking at #6. The 11/6/1982 show would've gotten me curious, too, as I would've been wondering what had happened to Santana's "Hold On". IIRC, it was the 12/17/1983 show where Casey mentioned the week's droppers, and would be consistent with that afterward. Usually he'd tie that in with a debut song, either in the intro or after the backsell. That practice would continue into his Casey's Top 40 run.
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Post by Hervard on Aug 8, 2020 8:13:30 GMT -5
And maybe Air Supply's "Even The Nights Are Better" could fit as well. It only spent a single week at its peak of #5, only dropped one notch the following week, and then plummeted out of the 40. I can only imagine my dumbfounded self back then if I had listened to AT40 regularly; I started in June 1984. My recollections of AT40 before that are spotty. I'm sure I've heard it at times, but didn't make it a priority to catch until 1984. Actually it peaked at #5 for two weeks (one of which was guest hosted). Then it slipped to 6, then plunged to #42 on 9/25/82. In his 1980s countdowns, Casey didn't regularly announce droppers until the end of 1983. Earlier in the decade many listeners who wrote down the countdown results each week (something I would do later) must have been pretty confused or confounded several times, wondering where a song that was in or near the top 10 last week went until realizing that it had fallen right out of the top 40. Something very similar happened with me when I was listening to Countdown America with John Leader. In 1983, it was a Top 30 show and the last week of September, "Tell Her No" by Juice Newton debuted at #26. Since that song was being played regularly on U93, I was thinking that the song would do well on the countdown, so when I heard the show the following week, by the time they got to the mid-teens, I was thinking, wow, the song was really burning up the chart. However, when they reached the Top Ten and I counted up all the songs that I hadn't heard yet, with the exception of the songs that had obviously dropped out, I came up with eleven. It was then that I realized that, despite the song's rather healthy debut the week before, it had fallen out. Had the countdown used the entire chart (which it would starting the following January), I would have known what was going on (as "Tell Her No" had dropped back to #33 that week).
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