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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2011 17:59:07 GMT -5
I was wondering if anyone ever knew of a station that counted down 100-41 before Amerucan Top 40 aired on their station? I doubt it's happened but was just curious.
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Post by jdelachjr2002 on Nov 22, 2011 1:43:52 GMT -5
I doubt any radio station had such the time for that.
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Post by statenislandfan on Nov 22, 2011 6:32:17 GMT -5
Never happened on any NYC stations that ever aired the show....and speaking of hot 100 questions, Is AT40 going to surprise us and play the entire Top 100 of 2011 this year? What was their intentions last year playing the top 40 of the year twice but with different voice tracks. If Ryan can't find the time due to all his Hollywood chores find someone who can.....hint..... Mike K?
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Post by tarobe on Nov 22, 2011 10:41:27 GMT -5
Probably not. Billboard was not really that important to radio chartwise in the first place. It was AT40 that established and perpetuated the idea that the Hot 100, or to be more exact, the top 40 of the Hot 100 chart was some kind of standard. Before that, although Billboard (since it was oldest) had a lot of clout, Cashbox was probably the most referenced chart. Radio stations usually had their own charts with anywhere from 25 to 50 positions (most had 40, hence the "Top 40" name). It was these local charts that they went by. Even here it was rare for a DJ to count down the hits. I know Casey Kasem did a top ten at KRLA in the sixties.
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Nov 22, 2011 12:44:58 GMT -5
I think it would be neat if a Station did it, but since alot of stations played the show in the morning from 9-12 or 8-12 once it hit 4 hours, then it'd have to start around midnight and no one would be listening.
I wish Casey played more extra things that were between 100 and 41.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2011 12:56:26 GMT -5
Probably not. Billboard was not really that important to radio chartwise in the first place. It was AT40 that established and perpetuated the idea that the Hot 100, or to be more exact, the top 40 of the Hot 100 chart was some kind of standard. Before that, although Billboard (since it was oldest) had a lot of clout, Cashbox was probably the most referenced chart. Radio stations usually had their own charts with anywhere from 25 to 50 positions (most had 40, hence the "Top 40" name). It was these local charts that they went by. Even here it was rare for a DJ to count down the hits. I know Casey Kasem did a top ten at KRLA in the sixties. No one is going to have a guest host for its year end show. Apparently Mediabase only put out a top 50 last year and radio station pds gripe about the lower number songs. Last year was probably the new trend. There was no reason to do it like that otherwise.
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Nov 22, 2011 13:14:20 GMT -5
How could Radio Stations gripe? Generally on a year end show the 10-20 #1 songs take up that many positions. The rest would be mostly top 10 or 20 hits. None would be really all that "lesser known"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2011 14:50:27 GMT -5
How could Radio Stations gripe? Generally on a year end show the 10-20 #1 songs take up that many positions. The rest would be mostly top 10 or 20 hits. None would be really all that "lesser known" I don't know. I'm old school so the more variety the better. But they don't program to me anymore. Apparently American Country Countdown which is the longest running country countdown show only counts down the top 30 because of this complaint. Yes, it's still a 4 hour show so far as I know. Are there really 10-20 #1s in a year now? Seems like that number is high. The more I think about it though, with the chart moving so slow youd probably have a lot of lower charting songs reach the Top 100. They were doing that during the last 7-8 years of Casey Kasem doing the pop charts.
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Nov 22, 2011 16:50:34 GMT -5
Most of the time we get 10-15 but its usually closer to 15. Some years have had a few less but this is about the average.
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Post by at40petebattistini on Nov 23, 2011 7:13:05 GMT -5
I was wondering if anyone ever knew of a station that counted down 100-41 before Amerucan Top 40 aired on their station? I doubt it's happened but was just curious. Paul, While it would've been a well-received idea to most individuals who post here, I believe what you asked about likely never happened. If you looked at it from a radio station perspective, large market stations would have never dedicated that much air time to unproven and unrecognizable music, even in the middle of the night. And small market stations would likely never have had access to all of the Hot 100 records on a weekly basis. Nor would there have be an audience. That leaves mid-sized market stations. In my opinion, it would've been possible there but not likely because of the reasons already mentioned and because of the amount of time needed to coordinate such a weekly production. What might've been more realistic, a one-hour program just prior to AT40, filled with 'hitbound' recordings -- consisting of 10-12 of the number 41 to number 100 chart climbers. Did such a program as this ever exist? I'm not aware of it. But I believe it woud've been a great audience builder for American Top 40.
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Post by dukelightning on Nov 23, 2011 8:47:49 GMT -5
This reminds me one of the weekly countdowns that the Ultimate Oldies Collection guys did from 1971. Every 20 minutes or so, they would play a song from 41-100 as extras. Some were future top 40 hits, some were not. Actually ran across some good songs that I had not heard before such as Grand Funk's cover of "Gimme Shelter". That was a great way to handle songs from below the top 40....basically a more grandiose version of what Premiere does with their extras. And to be fair, bestmusicexpert handled his 60s countdowns in much the same manner.
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Post by statenislandfan on Nov 23, 2011 8:55:53 GMT -5
During the AT40 days of WPIX in NYC in the mid '70's, They did air a two hour show called the new-ees. They debuted all new songs that were just released and was on Saturday nights. Then you would vote and the station would do the top 5.
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Nov 23, 2011 9:07:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I picked my extras mainly based on that for the 60's countdowns. A guy I sent them to each week on another site "reviewed" one for me for some website or blog or something.
"Jeff Michaels also plays quite a few extra songs not in the top 40. Hearing these (mostly) lost gems is fantastic. He has set the standard for what a great countdown should sound like. That is, of course, beyond the old standards that Casey Kasem set!"
Yeah, I kept that email!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 10:55:49 GMT -5
I was wondering if anyone ever knew of a station that counted down 100-41 before Amerucan Top 40 aired on their station? I doubt it's happened but was just curious. Paul, While it would've been a well-received idea to most individuals who post here, I believe what you asked about likely never happened. If you looked at it from a radio station perspective, large market stations would have never dedicated that much air time to unproven and unrecognizable music, even in the middle of the night. And small market stations would likely never have had access to all of the Hot 100 records on a weekly basis. Nor would there have be an audience. That leaves mid-sized market stations. In my opinion, it would've been possible there but not likely because of the reasons already mentioned and because of the amount of time needed to coordinate such a weekly production. What might've been more realistic, a one-hour program just prior to AT40, filled with 'hitbound' recordings -- consisting of 10-12 of the number 41 to number 100 chart climbers. Did such a program as this ever exist? I'm not aware of it. But I believe it woud've been a great audience builder for American Top 40. I didnt think anyone would have ever done it but just wondering. Perhaps maybe even as a 1 time gimmick for a station that aired the show later in the day. As far as the hit bound show, "Joel Denver's Future Hits" is the only one I'm aware of. It played songs on the rise but was based on R&R not Billboard. It aired in Jax and Orlando an hour before Casey's Top 40 did.
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Post by upland1425 on Nov 23, 2011 11:04:42 GMT -5
I remember that BBC Radio One once ran such show in the late 80's featuring the future hits between # 100 and # 41 of the UK Singles Chart for one hour immediately before their Official UK Top 40 Chart Show with Bruno Brookes.
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