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Post by dth1971 on Oct 25, 2024 7:10:42 GMT -5
Casey mentioned on several occasions that the Bay area group had 3 incarnations...Jefferson Airplane, Jefferson Starship and Starship. But they really had a 4th incarnation...Jefferson Starship 2.0 I'll call it. And that easy listening sound that Casey talked about precipitated it. After their 4 such hits, some band members were concerned about their image as more of a soft rock band. By the way, it's interesting hearing Casey using the terms "easy listening' and "acid rock'. Rarely used them especially acid rock. Of course the chart that is known as the AC chart was still called Easy Listening, until 1979. Anyway, that was not a sound that Grace Slick for example was fond of. So changes were made. Marty Balin was shown the door and was replaced by Mickey Thomas. Jefferson Stsrship 2.0 started in 1979 with their hit "Jane" introducing mainstream rock as their new sound. Was there a Jefferson Airplane 2.0 in 1989-1990? There was a 1989 Jefferson Airplane 2.0 album with 2 singles from it that never made Billboard's Hot 100: "Planes" and "Summer of Love". |
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Post by dukelightning on Oct 25, 2024 9:38:14 GMT -5
You could say that although Starship was still existent and in fact had a top 40 hit at the same time.
I would have liked to see the numbers for the #1 and #2 hits for the weeks of 10/16, 23 and 30. As Casey said, "Disco Duck" was bulleted despite dropping to #2 and held on to that bullet the next week. Duck may actually have had more points during one of its weeks at #2 than its week at #1. It ended up being at #2 for 4 weeks after it's week at #1, something only topped by "I'm Sorry" a year earlier in the 70s and 80s. Although in that case, it was the B side "Calpyso" that the stint at #2 can be attributed to.
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Post by mga707 on Oct 25, 2024 10:29:32 GMT -5
Casey mentioned on several occasions that the Bay area group had 3 incarnations...Jefferson Airplane, Jefferson Starship and Starship. But they really had a 4th incarnation...Jefferson Starship 2.0 I'll call it. And that easy listening sound that Casey talked about precipitated it. After their 4 such hits, some band members were concerned about their image as more of a soft rock band. By the way, it's interesting hearing Casey using the terms "easy listening' and "acid rock'. Rarely used them especially acid rock. Of course the chart that is known as the AC chart was still called Easy Listening, until 1979. Anyway, that was not a sound that Grace Slick for example was fond of. So changes were made. Marty Balin was shown the door and was replaced by Mickey Thomas. Jefferson Stsrship 2.0 started in 1979 with their hit "Jane" introducing mainstream rock as their new sound. Was there a Jefferson Airplane 2.0 in 1989-1990? There was a 1989 Jefferson Airplane 2.0 album with 2 singles from it that never made Billboard's Hot 100: "Planes" and "Summer of Love". The whole Airplane/Starship history is a bit confusing and complicated. In late 1970, after the initial run of six Jefferson Airplane albums (five studio albums and a live LP) beginning in 1966, founding member Paul Kantner released an album titled "Blows Against the Empire" that was credited to 'Paul Kantner/Jefferson Starship'. Grace Slick was on the LP, along with Jerry Garcia, David Crosby, and Graham Nash. At that same time (December 1970) RCA also released a 'best of' Jefferson Airplane album. But the following year the 'Airplane' name was revived for a new studio album ("Bark"), followed by a final JA studio album in '72 ("Long John Silver"). In fall 1974 the first LP credited solely as 'Jefferson Starship', "Dragon Fly", was released. Marty Balin sang on only one track ("Caroline"), but rejoined full-time for 1975's breakthrough "Red Octopus", remaining with the group through the "Spitfire" ('76) and "Earth" ('78) albums. Then he left for a solo career and the Jefferson Starship/Starship's next phase began, as stated above, with 1979's "Freedom At Point Zero" and the "Jane" single. |
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Post by dukelightning on Oct 25, 2024 13:15:59 GMT -5
Thanks mga707. I alluded to Jefferson Starship as having phases 1 and 2. Which was more successful? From a singles standpoint, the easy listening 1.0 phase was with 4 hits reaching at least 14 whereas the mainstream rock 2.0 phase biggest hit only reached that number. But album sales and concerts also factor into the equation. Those 2 things could have changed the narrative.
For me I would put "Miracles" and "Runaway" from 1.0 in the great category but all 4 hits from 2.0 in the great category..."Jane" through "No Way Out".
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Post by bm63 on Oct 25, 2024 18:30:28 GMT -5
Does KOKZ have a new stream URL? The one on the 70s and 80s station list hasn't worked in quite a while. The player does work but I'm looking for the URL. The one I had been using (https://24073.live.streamtheworld.com/KOKZFM.mp3) stopped working a few weeks ago. This one appears to be working: 15693.live.streamtheworld.com/KOKZFM.mp3 |
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Post by trekkielo on Oct 26, 2024 0:30:22 GMT -5
Thanks mga707. I alluded to Jefferson Starship as having phases 1 and 2. Which was more successful? From a singles standpoint, the easy listening 1.0 phase was with 4 hits reaching at least 14 whereas the mainstream rock 2.0 phase biggest hit only reached that number. But album sales and concerts also factor into the equation. Those 2 things could have changed the narrative. For me I would put "Miracles" and "Runaway" from 1.0 in the great category but all 4 hits from 2.0 in the great category..."Jane" through "No Way Out". For me it's the exact opposite... Great Miracles (#3) With Your Love (#12) Count on Me (#8) Runaway (#12) Jane (#14) Find Your Way Back (#29) No Be My Lady (#28) Winds of Change (#38) No Way Out (#23) There are actually 5 Top 40 hits by 2.0 AKA Jefferson Starship without Marty Balin.  |
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Post by dth1971 on Oct 26, 2024 8:47:44 GMT -5
For AT40: The 70's 10/23/1976 - Norman Connors is a popular jazz musician? "You Are My Starship" was his only AT40 charter.
Also for AT40: The 70's 10/23/1976, a drop piece of Bobby Gosh's original "A Little Bit More" (covered by Dr. Hook) was played.
Another thing about Bobby Gosh - Bobby wrote the songs for the animatronic Circus Playhous Band, Circus World Jamboree, and Stew Leonard's Farm Fresh Five shows. (The first two I mentioned - Circus Playhouse and Circus World Pizza - were both rivals/knockoffs of the Chuck E. Cheese's/ShowBiz Pizza chains in the 1980's and 1990's).
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Post by mkarns on Oct 26, 2024 11:09:01 GMT -5
Casey's tease at the start of the third hour of the 10/23/76 show of a new #1, the first by one of the leading groups in pop music (as he put it), seems a little too much of a giveaway to me. Not everyone listening kept close records of the charts, but those who did had to have quickly figured out he meant Chicago, who were the only group within reasonable striking distance of the top to fit that description, with many previous hits but no #1's until then.
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Post by jmack19 on Oct 26, 2024 13:07:07 GMT -5
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Post by LC on Oct 26, 2024 13:47:25 GMT -5
Every show I've heard with the Brothers Johnson's second hit, Casey always mispronounces the title. It's "Get the Funk Out Ma Face," not "Get the Funk OutTA Ma Face," as he says. Did he ever say it correctly?
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Post by jgve1952 on Oct 28, 2024 4:37:16 GMT -5
Great pre-Halloween show with three classic Halloween tunes--"Magic Man", "Don't Fear The Repear", and "Devil Woman."
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Post by jgve1952 on Oct 28, 2024 7:12:30 GMT -5
This is the great time of the year, when we get Christmas Specials and only one regular countdown. I do love 1976-79 shows, but those years limit play for the years of 1970-75. 1974 hasn't played since 9-7-24, making it now the year longest without play.
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Post by mga707 on Oct 28, 2024 9:51:25 GMT -5
This is the great time of the year, when we get Christmas Specials and only one regular countdown. Which is exactly what makes it my LEAST-favorite time of year, AT40-wise. |
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Post by jmack19 on Oct 28, 2024 10:40:08 GMT -5
It appears that this weekend's show is from November 4, 1972, which last aired in 2015 as a "B" show.
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Post by at40petebattistini on Oct 28, 2024 11:09:11 GMT -5
It appears that this weekend's show is from November 4, 1972, which last aired in 2015 as a "B" show. Along with a Christmas program from Premiere for November 2-3. |
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