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Post by jgve1952 on Oct 26, 2021 4:54:34 GMT -5
I posted in the Christmas Preemptions Thread asking if 11-6-21 would kick off the "B" Optional Christmas Shows. Can anyone affiliated with Premiere chime with the likelihood of this happening this year as it did last year? Last year it began on 11-7-20, which may or may not apply to this year. Thanks to anyone that can!
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Post by dth1971 on Oct 26, 2021 5:43:51 GMT -5
In the first 4 or 5 years, they left all the MGM Records ads in the show, then they started cutting them out. That's a shame. They added to the 'period charm'. Premiere even edited out in recent years from 1970-1971 shows the original Certs and Dentyne commercials.
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Post by waterboy on Oct 26, 2021 8:19:08 GMT -5
At the end of this weekends Sirius xm show 10/21/72, Casey gives a quick blurb about Elvis, Chuck Berry, and Rick Nelson not being in the top 10 together in 14 years. That’s a pretty significant chart fact. Can anyone think of that happening again? That is an incredible anomaly, especially considering that was the final top ten hit for all 3 of those giants. I got out my Joel Whitburn book of Top 40 hits (6th edition - basically all songs from 1955 to mid 90's )that lists all artists and their songs that made the top 40 including highest position reached for that song. I found 30 other people/groups that had top 10 hits in their careers that spanned 14 years or more. They are: Paul Anka (1957-1975), Beach Boys (1962-1988), Beatles (1964-1995), Bee Gees [1967-1989), James Brown (1965-1986), Cher (1966-1989), Chicago (1970-1989), Eric Clapton (1974-1992) - (only 5 top ten!), Perry Como ((1955-1970), Neil Diamond (1966-1982),4 seasons (1962-1976), Aretha Franklin (1967-1987), Marvin Gaye (1963-1982), George Harrison (1970-1987), Michael Jackson (1971-1992), Jackson 5 (1969-1984), Billy Joel (1977-1993), Elton John (1970-1994), John Lennon (1970-1984), Madonna (1985-1994), Paul McCartney (1971-1985) (Songs by Wings should not be included, I guess - other artists with similar group ties included at end), Roy Orbison (1960-1989), Rolling Stones (1973-1989), Neil Sedaka (1959-1975), Bruce Springsteen (1975-1994), Rod Stewart (1971-1989), Barbra Streisand (1964-1980), Dionne Warwick (1964-1979), Andy Williams (1956-1971), and last.but not least - Stevie Wonder (1966-1985) Quite a few of these people dropped off charts for quite a while, but had a late comeback with a song or 2 like Paul Anka, Beach Boys, Beatles, Bee Gees), Perry Como, James Brown, Aretha, Johnny Mathis - duo with Deniece Williams - include or not? (eliminate Johnny - I just checked the 1978 surveys with his final song, Wings was also on a few of them, but that's it ), Roy Orbison- (out - I checked 1989 - Madonna was also top 10, but they do not match up earlier) Others that had top 10 hits with groups, then went solo to span 14 years or more include Herb Alpert, Smokey Robinson, Diana Ross, Kenny Rogers, Paul Simon. I suspect you might find some of them in top 10 together on a survey dating from 1960's thru 1980's, but not again 14 years or more later!!!! I made a spreadsheet with the years 1955-1995 at the top row, and names of people above 1st column. Then I put x in each year they had at least 1 top ten song. I am going to start at 1955 and find 3 or more acts that had top ten hits that year, and then look 14 years or more beyond to see if any of them match up again. if they match, I will check chart dates to see if they might of made same top ten survey. Results to be posted when done.
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Post by bottlerocket on Oct 26, 2021 9:51:39 GMT -5
I always found that fact fascinating. What really struck me was that it was the final top 10 songs from three legends all at the same time. I found one example that nearly fits if you count an artist's group work. Stevie Wonder, James Brown and Paul McCartney (with the Beatles) all were in the top 10 for three weeks beginning on August 19, 1967 with "I Was Made To Love Her", "Cold Sweat" and "All You Need Is Love", respectively. 19 years later in February of 1986 these three artists were nearly in the top 10 again (actually the top 11) with their last top 10 hits. On February 8th, 1986, Paul McCartney moved up a notch to #7 with "Spies Like Us", James Brown jumped from 15 to 9 with "Living In America" and Stevie Wonder fell one after peaking at #10 to #11. Not to mention that same week Dionne Warwick and Gladys Knight were also in the top 10 for their last time with "That's What Friends Are For". Not sure there is a month in top 10 chart history with more legends with their swan songs.
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Post by matt on Oct 26, 2021 11:27:44 GMT -5
Optional extras for October 30, 1976:Hour #1: "Monster Mash" - Bobby "Boris" Pickett & The Crypt-Kickers (original AT40 extra) Hour #2: "Frankenstein" - Edgar Winter Group (original AT40 extra) Hour #3: "Car Wash" - Rose Royce (#82) For whatever reason, the hour #1 and #3 extras are being swapped from the 2012 airing...that time it went "Car Wash", "Frankenstein", then "Monster Mash" was the hour #3 extra. Your guess is as good as mine as to why they did that.
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Post by mkarns on Oct 26, 2021 13:01:14 GMT -5
Optional extras for October 30, 1976:Hour #1: "Monster Mash" - Bobby "Boris" Pickett & The Crypt-Kickers (original AT40 extra) Hour #2: "Frankenstein" - Edgar Winter Group (original AT40 extra) Hour #3: "Car Wash" - Rose Royce (#82) For whatever reason, the hour #1 and #3 extras are being swapped from the 2012 airing...that time it went "Car Wash", "Frankenstein", then "Monster Mash" was the hour #3 extra. Your guess is as good as mine as to why they did that. I don't know, but it does put "Monster Mash" closer to where it was in the original show, which was late in hour 1. "Frankenstein" appeared near the end of hour 2.
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Post by mrjukebox on Oct 26, 2021 13:18:36 GMT -5
Interesting to note that the OE selections for 10/30/76 were former # 1 hits.
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Post by rgmike on Oct 27, 2021 16:24:41 GMT -5
For whatever reason, the hour #1 and #3 extras are being swapped from the 2012 airing...that time it went "Car Wash", "Frankenstein", then "Monster Mash" was the hour #3 extra. Your guess is as good as mine as to why they did that. I don't know, but it does put "Monster Mash" closer to where it was in the original show, which was late in hour 1. "Frankenstein" appeared near the end of hour 2. My guess: the first 2 extras air after the hour ends, but the 3rd one is inserted between segments. So Stations who don't want to do Halloween can skip those 2 songs. (of course, I knew folks back in '76 who found "Car Wash" scary )
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Post by seminolefan on Oct 28, 2021 10:11:25 GMT -5
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Post by waterboy on Oct 28, 2021 14:33:47 GMT -5
I always found that fact fascinating. What really struck me was that it was the final top 10 songs from three legends all at the same time. I found one example that nearly fits if you count an artist's group work. Stevie Wonder, James Brown and Paul McCartney (with the Beatles) all were in the top 10 for three weeks beginning on August 19, 1967 with "I Was Made To Love Her", "Cold Sweat" and "All You Need Is Love", respectively. 19 years later in February of 1986 these three artists were nearly in the top 10 again (actually the top 11) with their last top 10 hits. On February 8th, 1986, Paul McCartney moved up a notch to #7 with "Spies Like Us", James Brown jumped from 15 to 9 with "Living In America" and Stevie Wonder fell one after peaking at #10 to #11. Not to mention that same week Dionne Warwick and Gladys Knight were also in the top 10 for their last time with "That's What Friends Are For". Not sure there is a month in top 10 chart history with more legends with their swan songs. I went to Cash Box charts to check what week Chuck Berry, Rick Nelson and Elvis were in same Top Ten 1958 and that did not happen. I know there is a world of difference between the Billboard and Cash Box charts. I have a bunch of Billboard books, but not any that show the actual 1950 charts. (They want money on-line to look at the charts and I'm not doing that just for a one time 5 minute look.) Can somebody tell me what week they were in same Billboard top ten 1958? Thanks!
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Post by lasvegaskid on Oct 28, 2021 16:34:51 GMT -5
KOKZ has gotten in the bad habit recently of playing mid hour filler and then not having enough time for the extras. The music/songs used as "mid hour filler" on KOKZ are being played in place of a commercial from a sports betting company. That commercial can't be aired outside of the state of Iowa,hence it's not able to be heard on the internet stream of KOKZ. Listeners who listen to KOKZ over their radio hear the commercial and not the "filler" music. I think you missed the point which was why not use the unaired extra as filler instead of a random song.
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Post by mga707 on Oct 28, 2021 17:59:45 GMT -5
I went to Cash Box charts to check what week Chuck Berry, Rick Nelson and Elvis were in same Top Ten 1958 and that did not happen. I know there is a world of difference between the Billboard and Cash Box charts. I have a bunch of Billboard books, but not any that show the actual 1950 charts. (They want money on-line to look at the charts and I'm not doing that just for a one time 5 minute look.) Can somebody tell me what week they were in same Billboard top ten 1958? Thanks! I could find a number of weeks where two of the three were, but not all three of them. Berry had only two top 10 singles in '58 ('Sweet Little Sixteen' and 'Johnny B. Goode'), so it's easiest to check the weeks when those two songs were in the top 10. Both of Berry's 1958 top 10 hits shared the top 10 with Elvis ("Don't" and "Wear My Ring Around Your Neck"), but not with any of Ricky Nelson's top 10 hits. I use Ultimate Music Database (UMD) for the 'Billboard' charts It's free. www.umdmusic.com/default.asp?Lang=English&Chart=D&ChDay=01&ChMonth=01&ChYear=1958&ChBand=&ChSong=
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Post by caseyfan100 on Oct 28, 2021 19:24:26 GMT -5
The music/songs used as "mid hour filler" on KOKZ are being played in place of a commercial from a sports betting company. That commercial can't be aired outside of the state of Iowa,hence it's not able to be heard on the internet stream of KOKZ. Listeners who listen to KOKZ over their radio hear the commercial and not the "filler" music. I think you missed the point which was why not use the unaired extra as filler instead of a random song. I take it when you say "mid hour filler" it means they play a random song that has nothing to do with AT40 during a commercial break. Again I will go back to my original post. People who listen to KOKZ over their radio hear the commercial not the filler music. People who listen over the internet hear the filler music and not the commercial. I suppose that KOKZ could play the AT40 extra as filler music on the internet and then not play it at the end of the hour to avoid listeners on the internet from hearing it twice and have radio listeners not hear it at all. Or they could play the extra at the end of the hour for people listening on the radio and play filler music on the internet to avoid those listening there of hearing it twice. I will give another example. Jack FM in Baltimore every now and then does the same thing by playing "filler music" over commercials that can't be played on the internet. The thing that they do is after a minute or so of the song,they cut it off and go back to the program.
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Post by mga707 on Oct 28, 2021 20:03:21 GMT -5
Great--we've got music on WSQL running under AT40. A "(Don't Fear) the Reaper"/"Watermelon Man" 'mash-up' currently...
(Ah, it ended! Someone's in the studio, I guess)
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Post by bm63 on Oct 29, 2021 5:57:19 GMT -5
I think you missed the point which was why not use the unaired extra as filler instead of a random song. I take it when you say "mid hour filler" it means they play a random song that has nothing to do with AT40 during a commercial break. Again I will go back to my original post. People who listen to KOKZ over their radio hear the commercial not the filler music. People who listen over the internet hear the filler music and not the commercial. I suppose that KOKZ could play the AT40 extra as filler music on the internet and then not play it at the end of the hour to avoid listeners on the internet from hearing it twice and have radio listeners not hear it at all. Or they could play the extra at the end of the hour for people listening on the radio and play filler music on the internet to avoid those listening there of hearing it twice. I will give another example. Jack FM in Baltimore every now and then does the same thing by playing "filler music" over commercials that can't be played on the internet. The thing that they do is after a minute or so of the song,they cut it off and go back to the program. They often skip only one of the extras. If there is filler in that hour, replace it with the skipped extra. Those listening to the radio would get the commercial and wouldn't get the extra at the end of the hour, like today. Those listening on the internet would get the extra in place of the commercial, instead of the filler, and also wouldn't get the extra at the end of the hour.
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