|
Post by lasvegaskid on Oct 29, 2021 7:15:07 GMT -5
I think you missed the point which was why not use the unaired extra as filler instead of a random song. I take it when you say "mid hour filler" it means they play a random song that has nothing to do with AT40 during a commercial break. Again I will go back to my original post. People who listen to KOKZ over their radio hear the commercial not the filler music. People who listen over the internet hear the filler music and not the commercial. I suppose that KOKZ could play the AT40 extra as filler music on the internet and then not play it at the end of the hour to avoid listeners on the internet from hearing it twice and have radio listeners not hear it at all. Or they could play the extra at the end of the hour for people listening on the radio and play filler music on the internet to avoid those listening there of hearing it twice. I will give another example. Jack FM in Baltimore every now and then does the same thing by playing "filler music" over commercials that can't be played on the internet. The thing that they do is after a minute or so of the song,they cut it off and go back to the program. Ummm, I read your 'original post'. The extra isn't getting played, not at the top of the hour, hence then term 'unaired'. Not once, not twice, not over the air, not online, zilch. Why would I suggest playing it as filler if it was being spun again at the top of the hour, that would be stupid and unlistenable.
|
|
|
Post by michaelcasselman on Oct 29, 2021 11:45:22 GMT -5
Great--we've got music on WSQL running under AT40. A "(Don't Fear) the Reaper"/"Watermelon Man" 'mash-up' currently... (Ah, it ended! Someone's in the studio, I guess) Oh, I dunno... I think Casey would have sounded good with some salsa bed-music every now and then {shrug}
|
|
|
Post by waterboy on Oct 29, 2021 11:58:48 GMT -5
I went to Cash Box charts to check what week Chuck Berry, Rick Nelson and Elvis were in same Top Ten 1958 and that did not happen. I know there is a world of difference between the Billboard and Cash Box charts. I have a bunch of Billboard books, but not any that show the actual 1950 charts. (They want money on-line to look at the charts and I'm not doing that just for a one time 5 minute look.) Can somebody tell me what week they were in same Billboard top ten 1958? Thanks! I could find a number of weeks where two of the three were, but not all three of them. Berry had only two top 10 singles in '58 ('Sweet Little Sixteen' and 'Johnny B. Goode'), so it's easiest to check the weeks when those two songs were in the top 10. Both of Berry's 1958 top 10 hits shared the top 10 with Elvis ("Don't" and "Wear My Ring Around Your Neck"), but not with any of Ricky Nelson's top 10 hits. I use Ultimate Music Database (UMD) for the 'Billboard' charts It's free. www.umdmusic.com/default.asp?Lang=English&Chart=D&ChDay=01&ChMonth=01&ChYear=1958&ChBand=&ChSong=Thank You mga707 - You are the Man! That clears up the conundrum we have. Casey never said, or insinuated, that this was the first time in 14 years that 3 artists all had top ten hits in the same top ten countdowns 14 years apart. Odds against that would be astronomical! When Rick Nelson entered the top ten on 10/21/72, he sealed the deal with 3 artists having songs in top ten 14 years apart. The fact they were in the same top ten in 1972 was only a coincidence. Up until 1972, no other acts had done that. Well, that’s not true. The same three guys all had top ten hits in 1957. Chuck Berry (School Days, Rock and Roll Music) Rick Nelson had 3 top ten, Elvis had 4 top ten. So it was a flub by Casey. This was 15 years between 3 artists still in top ten. Back to the original question, has it been done since. Yes it has. Here is one I found with 4 artists in top ten 17 years apart. 1972 to 1989. Cher (1972 – Way of Love, 1989 – 3 songs including Turn Back Time) Chicago (1972 - Saturday in Park, 1989 - You’re Not Alone) Rolling Stones (1972 – Tumbling Dice, 1989 – Mixed Emotions) Michael Jackson (1972 – Ben, 1989 – Smooth Criminal) And the Winner is ….20 years apart for 4 artists in top ten. Let’s have a little fun to figure out who they are, and the years this streak included. I will give you some clues. (Humor me a little, I’ve spent a lot of time on this. Casey’s assistants were probably getting paid to find stuff like this. I was making a cool $3 to 4 dollars an hour in 1972 ) 1st artist – The year it ended was his final top ten and from a movie soundtrack 2nd artist – this group never gathered any moss, they were still going on tour until 2021. 3rd artist – her 1st top ten hit was in 1964 (not the year this started), the year it ended was her final top ten. 4th artist – most years in top ten by anybody from 1955 to 1995 with 19! Good Luck!
|
|
|
Post by michaelcasselman on Oct 29, 2021 14:18:32 GMT -5
Hmm. 1966-1986? 1.)James Brown with 'Living In America', 2.) Rolling Stones with 'Harlem Shuffle', 3.)Dionne Warwick with 'Thats What Friends Are For', and 4.) Stevie Wonder ('Go Home')?
|
|
|
Post by mga707 on Oct 29, 2021 15:31:29 GMT -5
Hmm. 1966-1986? 1.)James Brown with 'Living In America', 2.) Rolling Stones with 'Harlem Shuffle', 3.)Dionne Warwick with 'Thats What Friends Are For', and 4.) Stevie Wonder ('Go Home')? You're correct--all four had top 10s in '66 and in '86. Stevie was also one of Dionne's 'Friends' on her #1 hit as well as having his final solo top 10.
|
|
|
Post by waterboy on Oct 29, 2021 16:45:40 GMT -5
Hmm. 1966-1986? 1.)James Brown with 'Living In America', 2.) Rolling Stones with 'Harlem Shuffle', 3.)Dionne Warwick with 'Thats What Friends Are For', and 4.) Stevie Wonder ('Go Home')? You're correct--all four had top 10s in '66 and in '86. Stevie was also one of Dionne's 'Friends' on her #1 hit as well as having his final solo top 10. That didn't take long did it! Did you do it without using any books? In my Whitburn Top 40 book "Friends" was listed under Stevie's body of work for top 40 hits so it certainly counts. (He is listed on the 45 rpm label as one of the friends.)
|
|
|
Post by mga707 on Oct 29, 2021 20:41:43 GMT -5
You're correct--all four had top 10s in '66 and in '86. Stevie was also one of Dionne's 'Friends' on her #1 hit as well as having his final solo top 10. That didn't take long did it! Did you do it without using any books? In my Whitburn Top 40 book "Friends" was listed under Stevie's body of work for top 40 hits so it certainly counts. (He is listed on the 45 rpm label as one of the friends.) I used both my Whitburn 'Top Pop Singles' book and then checked UMD to confirm Mr. Casselman's guess. But it sounded correct to me even before I confirmed it.
|
|
|
Post by michaelcasselman on Oct 30, 2021 8:27:54 GMT -5
That didn't take long did it! Did you do it without using any books? In my Whitburn Top 40 book "Friends" was listed under Stevie's body of work for top 40 hits so it certainly counts. (He is listed on the 45 rpm label as one of the friends.) I used both my Whitburn 'Top Pop Singles' book and then checked UMD to confirm Mr. Casselman's guess. But it sounded correct to me even before I confirmed it. No books, but a lot of second guessing on my part lol. The Rolling Stone 'gather no moss' hint narrowed down my guesses, as did 'last T10 hit was a soundtrack hit', which made me think it was either McCartney or POSSIBLY Rod Stewart ('All For Love')... but since the Stones weren't having many chart hits on the '93 period, I went bck to '86. Then I was trying to remember if that late '87 period when we had Bill Medley, Dusty Springfield and George Harrison on the charts at once, but no Stones around... same with late '88 when we had Cher and the Beach Boys (again, the soundtrack clue).
|
|
|
Post by mkarns on Oct 30, 2021 10:16:46 GMT -5
Of note, this week's 1976 show was the first telling of what may have been Casey's favourite story, that of Al Jarvis, who Casey credited as the first disc jockey--a disputable claim, but Jarvis was still one of the pioneers in building a show around playing records with his "Make Believe Ballroom", broadcast from Los Angeles (Martin Block soon after started a same-titled show in New York.) This was the first of five times Casey told this story through 1988, probably as many times as he told any story not tied to a particular artist or song. (If Premiere were doing 11/1/80 this week, instead of 11/8 next week, then we'd be hearing about Al twice in one weekend.)
Jarvis, incidentally, also appeared on TV starting in 1949 with "Hollywood on Television", co-hosted by Betty White which began what is credited as the longest TV career in history.
|
|
|
Post by mga707 on Oct 30, 2021 11:18:20 GMT -5
Of note, this week's 1976 show was the first telling of what may have been Casey's favourite story, that of Al Jarvis, who Casey credited as the first disc jockey--a disputable claim, but Jarvis was still one of the pioneers in building a show around playing records with his "Make Believe Ballroom", broadcast from Los Angeles (Martin Block soon after started a same-titled show in New York.) This was the first of five times Casey told this story through 1988, probably as many times as he told any story not tied to a particular artist or song. (If Premiere were doing 11/1/80 this week, instead of 11/8 next week, then we'd be hearing about Al twice in one weekend.) Jarvis, incidentally, also appeared on TV starting in 1949 with "Hollywood on Television", co-hosted by Betty White which began what is credited as the longest TV career in history. I'm surprised that it took a full 12 years from the start of commercial radio in the U.S. in 1920 for the concept of playing records on-air to take hold. Guessing that music licensing issues were the reason it didn't start sooner.
|
|
|
Post by mrjukebox on Oct 30, 2021 12:11:13 GMT -5
Noticed that "Still The One" & "Lowdown" took significant drops on 10/30/76-Was Bill Wardlow the chart director of Billboard at that time?
|
|
|
Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Oct 30, 2021 12:30:07 GMT -5
Noticed that "Still The One" & "Lowdown" took significant drops on 10/30/76-Was Bill Wardlow the chart director of Billboard at that time? Yes. His tenure began sometime in 1974.
|
|
|
Post by doofus67 on Oct 30, 2021 13:48:20 GMT -5
Noticed that "Still The One" & "Lowdown" took significant drops on 10/30/76-Was Bill Wardlow the chart director of Billboard at that time? Yes. His tenure began sometime in 1974. The issue of August 18, 1973, to be exact. The masthead referred to him as Willis Wardlow. He'll always be Bogus Bill to me.
|
|
|
Post by kani on Oct 30, 2021 15:10:46 GMT -5
Oct 30, 1976 has 10 disco acts..
|
|
|
Post by rgmike on Oct 30, 2021 15:29:01 GMT -5
Man, that John Valenti One-Hit-Wonder, "Anything You Want", which I barely remembered hearing during its brief top 40 stay, was a pretty good Stevie Wonder imitation. A One-Hit-Wonder in more ways than one!
|
|