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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Feb 6, 2010 22:39:39 GMT -5
Just checked and "Free Wheelin" was not played at any time after "You Aint Seen Nothin Yet" fell from its peak--Casey did mention why "You Aint Seen Nothin Yet" returned to the top 10 after falling to 34 but never mentioned "Free Wheelin" by name. If you have the show, you may want to listen to it (Nov 30, 1974)
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Post by pizzzzza on Feb 7, 2010 19:09:55 GMT -5
I'm sure this has been gone over before - but my favorite chart run (because I remember it at the time!) was "I GO CRAZY" by Paul Davis. It's HOT 100 run was amazing, but even limited to it's AT40 run - it's amazing how many stops n' starts it had: 10/29/77: (*37-34-*31-*29-28-*25-*23-23-(no chart)-*21-21-*19-*18-*16-*14-*12-*11-*9-*8-*7-7-7-28-35-off). Also - talking about slow climbers to their peak position - anybody remember HOT with "Angel of Your Arms"? 4/2/77: (*40-*35-*29-*25-*23-*21-*20-*18-*13-*12-*11-*10-*9-*8-*7-*6-6-16-21-off) - climbed one notch a week for 7 consecutive weeks!! You should check out "Why Me" by Kris Kristofferson.....
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Post by Hervard on Feb 7, 2010 19:28:08 GMT -5
Also - talking about slow climbers to their peak position - anybody remember HOT with "Angel of Your Arms"? 4/2/77: (*40-*35-*29-*25-*23-*21-*20-*18-*13-*12-*11-*10-*9-*8-*7-*6-6-16-21-off) - climbed one notch a week for 7 consecutive weeks!! There was another song that climbed one spot at a time for five consecutive weeks. True, that's two less weeks than "Angel In Your Arms", but the reason I'm mentioning it is because it was Eddie Rabbitt's song "Step By Step".
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Post by bigal on Jun 8, 2010 5:26:39 GMT -5
some obscure tunes that fell out, only to re-debut again, SPRING RAIN by Silvetti and LETS PRETEND by Rasberries,
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Post by torcan on Jul 2, 2010 17:51:50 GMT -5
I'm sure this has been gone over before - but my favorite chart run (because I remember it at the time!) was "I GO CRAZY" by Paul Davis. It's HOT 100 run was amazing, but even limited to it's AT40 run - it's amazing how many stops n' starts it had: 10/29/77: (*37-34-*31-*29-28-*25-*23-23-(no chart)-*21-21-*19-*18-*16-*14-*12-*11-*9-*8-*7-7-7-28-35-off).! I'm really surprised this single was never certified gold. 1977-78 was a period of strong record sales - you'd figure since this song spent so long in the top 40 it must have gone gold. Maybe the record company just didn't request certification(?)
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Post by torcan on Jul 2, 2010 17:55:46 GMT -5
Once in early 1983, there was a week when at least the entire top 10 stayed the same. I finally found it: the top 11 songs were the same on March 26 and April 2. That's because Billboard had this rather annoying rule that songs couldn't fall if they had a "star" (or "bullet") the previous week. All of the songs in the top 11 had a star for March 26th, and since the No. 1 song held on for April 2nd, that forced all songs from 2-11 to remain in place - whether they should have or not. Anyone know why Billboard had this rule? It was in place from about 1975-April 1983. It even stated songs will stay in place if it's in a "holding period", but doesn't explain it futher. Rather vague description!
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Post by torcan on Jul 2, 2010 17:58:06 GMT -5
AT 40 wasn't always loyal to BB in its yearenders though 1970, 1971, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 were BB, 1972. 1973, 1977, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985 their own. So in Casey's run (1970-1987) 9 years were BB, 9 were AT 40's I've often wondered why some years AT40 did their own year-end chart, and other years they used Billboard's. Anyone know the reasoning behind the decisions? Personally, I would have liked to have seen AT40 do their own every year.
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Post by johnnywest on Oct 5, 2017 11:31:28 GMT -5
"Rescue Me" by Madonna had an odd and short chart run, thanks to the commercial single being released late:
15-14-11-9-16-28-59-90
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Post by doofus67 on Nov 3, 2017 14:09:24 GMT -5
Here are a couple of runs that started out normal, but got weirder as they went along:
-- "Rocky," Austin Roberts...100-89-79-69-58-47-38-33-28-26-24-10-9-15-40-66-95
The week that "Rocky" leaped 24 to 10 was October 4, 1975. All kinds of craziness happened that week.
As impressive as "Rocky's" move was, one song actually leapfrogged it: "Bad Blood," which went 25 to 6. "Mr. Jaws" moved 14 to 5, then, in true novelty record fashion, peaked at 4 the following week. "Who Loves You" jumped from 30 to 17; "Lyin' Eyes" went 40 to 18; "The Way I Want to Touch You" catapulted 80 to 33.
The biggest drop of the week within the countdown was "Fight the Power," 4 to 24. (The Bill Wardlow holding pattern rule was in full effect.) "At Seventeen" fell 7 to 21; "Feel Like Makin' Love" dropped 10 to 25. Exiting the top 40 was "Daisy Jane," 20 to 47.
Then, to spice things up a bit more, five songs in the 30s all held steady without stars. They were #32, 34, 35, 37, and 39, and included the original theme music from Jaws! We come full circle.
-- "Stomp!," Brothers Johnson...86-70-50-45-30-28-24-21-18-16-7-7-17-17-18-24-28-63-95
Might this run make a little more sense if one of those 17's were a 10 or an 11?
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Post by matt on Nov 6, 2017 12:25:24 GMT -5
Here are a couple of runs that started out normal, but got weirder as they went along: -- "Rocky," Austin Roberts...100-89-79-69-58-47-38-33-28-26-24-10-9-15-40-66-95 The week that "Rocky" leaped 24 to 10 was October 4, 1975. All kinds of craziness happened that week. As impressive as "Rocky's" move was, one song actually leapfrogged it: "Bad Blood," which went 25 to 6. "Mr. Jaws" moved 14 to 5, then, in true novelty record fashion, peaked at 4 the following week. "Who Loves You" jumped from 30 to 17; "Lyin' Eyes" went 40 to 18; "The Way I Want to Touch You" catapulted 80 to 33. The biggest drop of the week within the countdown was "Fight the Power," 4 to 24. (The Bill Wardlow holding pattern rule was in full effect.) "At Seventeen" fell 7 to 21; "Feel Like Makin' Love" dropped 10 to 25. Exiting the top 40 was "Daisy Jane," 20 to 47. Then, to spice things up a bit more, five songs in the 30s all held steady without stars. They were #32, 34, 35, 37, and 39, and included the original theme music from Jaws! We come full circle. -- "Stomp!," Brothers Johnson...86-70-50-45-30-28-24-21-18-16-7-7-17-17-18-24-28-63-95 Might this run make a little more sense if one of those 17's were a 10 or an 11? You give a lot of good examples on the 10/4/75 chart, and to add to it, the following week (10/11/75) was the last time there were nine debut songs in the top 40. So no shortage of unusual chart action around that time...
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Post by matt on Nov 6, 2017 12:32:50 GMT -5
"Rescue Me" by Madonna had an odd and short chart run, thanks to the commercial single being released late: 15-14-11-9-16-28-59-90 MJ's "Thriller" fits that same pattern, and for much of the same reason. The song didn't get released as a single until the end of January 1984 despite all of the hype surrounding it and its legendary video having been out for well over a month. It burst onto the Hot 100 at #20, but stalled at #4 after a few weeks and ended up with a relatively short chart run. Of course, songs' chart data didn't take into account the sales of the albums they were on, which probably had a significant impact on "Thriller's" time on the chart. Most fans of MJ and the music on that album had already purchased it, so there wasn't much reason to go out and buy the single, which thus limited the selling power of the single at that point. If "Thriller" had been released as one of the first two or three songs on the LP, it probably hits #1 without much trouble. I always found it strange too that they didn't choose to release "Thriller" in the fall, when it could've been a hit during the Halloween season...seems like that would've been a more fitting time for it to be heard on the radio, MTV, etc.
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Post by Hervard on Nov 6, 2017 14:14:44 GMT -5
Someone mentioned "One Way Or Another" earlier. That song itself had a weird chart run, even for a song that dropped off the survey and then re-entered. That type of chart action generally happens around the bottom of the chart - like, for instance, the first song to do that since the Blondie song, "Always And Forever" by Whistle. It debuted at #39, dropped out and then re-appeared a week later at #38. "One Way Or Another" moved 35-34-41-29. I'm wondering if any kind of computer error was responsible for any of these chart oddities. For the Blondie song, the only other logical explanation I can think of is a number of stations having it high on their playlists failing to report the week it was #41 (of course, didn't Billboard just list those stations with frozen playlists instead of omitting them entirely?)
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Post by giannirubino on Nov 6, 2017 14:33:22 GMT -5
I have no inside information, but I bet Blondie's OWOA was a computer error, or human error.
I'll never understand the thinking that Thriller would be good for Valentine's Day. XD
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Post by johnnywest on Nov 10, 2017 9:22:11 GMT -5
While the chart run itself wasn't odd, the circumstances behind it were unusual. On the weekend of 6/10/83, R&R's CHR chart expanded from 30 to 40 positions. On 5/27, "Beat It" was at #15. It was off on 6/3/83. But then on 6/10/83, it was at #35. In the LW column, it was at #31, which is where it would have been had the chart been 40 positions that prior week.
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Post by Hervard on Nov 10, 2017 10:45:24 GMT -5
While the chart run itself wasn't odd, the circumstances behind it were unusual. On the weekend of 6/10/83, R&R's CHR chart expanded from 30 to 40 positions. On 5/27, "Beat It" was at #15. It was off on 6/3/83. But then on 6/10/83, it was at #35. In the LW column, it was at #31, which is where it would have been had the chart been 40 positions that prior week. Other examples of this "phantom chart": "Solitaire" by Laura Branigan dropped from the chart on June 3 from #12. The following week, it was #40 and the LW column said it had been at #32 the previous week. "Little Red Corvette" by Prince - the three week trend went like: 19-(34)-38. There were also a few examples of songs that had recently debuted on the chart with chart positions below #30 listed with their four-week trend: Don't Pay The Ferryman" by Chris DeBurgh: (37)-29-27 All This Love - DeBarge: (38)-(33)-29-24 Those were the only two, but I'm wondering if they just did that for a few songs, since I find it somewhat hard to believe that "Sweet Dreams" by The Eurythmics would have skipped over the 31-40 zone to debut at #30 and move up only two (though it is possible). Also, "Every Breath You Take" by the Police didn't have any trends before its debut on June 3, but it was a Breaker (meaning, it was reported by at least 60 percent of the station reporting panel) the week before and by that time, songs generally became Breakers the week before they hit the Top 30, but after the chart expanded, songs almost always achieved Breaker status the week they hit the Top 40. And, since "Every Breath You Take" had 187 adds (83 percent of the panel) when it was a Breaker, heck, I'm surprised it didn't hit the Top 30. The R&R panel consisted of about 225 stations (I calculated the percentage, but came up with 225.30120481927713). "Sweet Dreams" achieved Breaker status the week it debuted at #30 and was on 68 percent of the reporting panel with 23 adds. That means, the week before, they would have been on about 58 percent of the panel, so I guess that #30 debut was legit, since, as mentioned earlier, a Breaker had to be reported by 60 percent of the panel. Anyway... Songs that were "saved" the week the chart expanded: "Straight From The Heart" by Bryan Adams (17-31) "The One Thing" by INXS (24-37) By the way, for year-end chart purposes in 1983, the songs were tracked only during their run in the Top 30, in order to fairly and accurately rank songs from the early half of the year with songs that charted after the chart had expanded to 40.
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