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Post by pizzzzza on Mar 19, 2011 19:22:51 GMT -5
I think we've touched upon this discussion some in the other threads, so I thought it would 'interesting' to see how MTV videos that were big 'hits' as music videos fared on AT 40.
I don't have any particular year or video to start with - just wanted to get a discussion going to see if anyone wanted to do this with me - thought it might be kind of fun to compare the two, since they were both very strong entities in the 80s/90s.
I guess for starters, how about these groups/songs from the 80s:
Video Killed The Radio Star - Buggles Love My Way - Psychedelic Furs Any Fixx video Any Scandal video Any Berlin video Any Pat Benatar video Any Flock of Seagulls video Any Devo video Any Duran Duran video Any Michael Jackson video Any Men at Work video Any Adam Ant video Any Def Leppard video Any Guns N Roses video Any Tom Petty video Any INXS video
And from the 90s: Any Garbage video Any Nirvana video Any Madonna video (80s also) Any REM video (80s also) Any Green Day video Any Pearl Jam video Any Red Hot Chili Peppers video Any Alanis Morissette video
I'm curious to see if any of these songs made the top 40 - if they did, how high did they peak - and if they didn't, how high did they get on the Hot 100 - if they even did!
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Post by saltrek on Mar 19, 2011 20:55:43 GMT -5
The Buggles hit #40 - but in 1979. Two years before MTV existed Love My Way reached #44.
The Red Hot Chili Pepppers kind of jumps out at me. Who can forget the video for Give It Away. Massive MTV hit - it peaked at #73.
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Post by pizzzzza on Mar 19, 2011 22:06:38 GMT -5
I guess I listed the Buggles because it was the first music video ever played on MTV - and since they were so limited the first few years with their video selection, we got to see it a LOT!
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Post by saltrek on Mar 21, 2011 10:26:40 GMT -5
OK, how serious do you wanna get? I used to subscribe to Billboard magazine in the 80's, and I remember that they used to list the MTV videos by Heavy, Medium & Light rotation. So, I went to Google Books and took a stab and, unbelievably, on the second try I found the issue where they first listed the MTV videos! (I should have immediately went out and played the Lotto!) It was Feb. 5, 1983. There were 13 videos in heavy rotation. Just eye-balling it, 11 of them seemed like big radio hits (top 20). The other 2 were predominately album cuts. Sammy Hagar's "Three Lock Box" and Men At Work's "Be Good Johnny" If you really want, we can start looking chronologically at each week that's available in Google Books, and find the new additions to the heavy rotation and see what other non-hits pop up. Like I said, how serious do you wanna get?
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Mar 21, 2011 11:10:40 GMT -5
This could get interesting. For as much as I had seen Men At Work's Be Good Johnny, I had figured it for a HUGE HIT!
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Post by mkarns on Mar 21, 2011 11:24:06 GMT -5
This could get interesting. For as much as I had seen Men At Work's Be Good Johnny, I had figured it for a HUGE HIT! Maybe it would have been if released as a single. But by the time "Down Under" started dropping, MAW's next album "Cargo" and the single "Overkill" were ready to go, so the record company moved on to them.
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Mar 21, 2011 11:45:56 GMT -5
I hated Overkill, but It's a Mistake is one of my all time MAW songs, The follow up was cool too. Dr Heckyll & Mr Jive!!!!
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Post by Big Red Machine on Mar 21, 2011 11:58:22 GMT -5
Oh Yeah, I forgot about "Be Good Johnny" not being released as a single. So that's a big reason why "Business as Usual" did so great on the album chart. Fans had to purchase that album in order to get that song.
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Mar 21, 2011 12:05:30 GMT -5
Business was good. Underground, Down By The Sea & People Just Love To Play With Words were great album cuts. I also liked the flip of Who Can It Be Now, the instrumental Anyone For Tennis. That one's on youtube in case anyone is curious..
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Post by pizzzzza on Mar 21, 2011 12:22:54 GMT -5
OK, how serious do you wanna get? I used to subscribe to Billboard magazine in the 80's, and I remember that they used to list the MTV videos by Heavy, Medium & Light rotation. So, I went to Google Books and took a stab and, unbelievably, on the second try I found the issue where they first listed the MTV videos! (I should have immediately went out and played the Lotto!) It was Feb. 5, 1983. There were 13 videos in heavy rotation. Just eye-balling it, 11 of them seemed like big radio hits (top 20). The other 2 were predominately album cuts. Sammy Hagar's "Three Lock Box" and Men At Work's "Be Good Johnny" If you really want, we can start looking chronologically at each week that's available in Google Books, and find the new additions to the heavy rotation and see what other non-hits pop up. Like I said, how serious do you wanna get? I don't know - I just thought it would "interesting" to see just how many really good music videos never made it on the AT 40 charts. It seems more than I realized when I look back at the early to mid 80s. I saw that Top 13 list also - of course, the MTV rotation was so limited at the beginning - same videos over and over. Lately it seems we've had some good threads/discussions on this forum - we have the usual 70s/80s AT 40 threads of upcoming shows, etc - just thought it would be fun to compare MTV vs AT 40. I remember seeing and really liking a lot of The Fixx - Red Skies and Stand or Fall, for example - but they flopped on the Hot 100. And remember that song "Let Me Go" by Heaven 17 - loved that song when it was out, but then, another non-hit on AT 40.
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