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Post by 80sfreak on Apr 6, 2010 21:41:02 GMT -5
I was going thru 1984's Top 100 and I found some intriguing chart movements. Weird that Thriller debuted all the way at 20, was at #7 is its 2nd week and in its 6th week, was falling down the countdown after only peaking at #4.
Further down the countdown, The Politics of Dancing in its 17th week in the Top 100 hadn't peaked yet. Weird that a song spending that much time in the Top 100 only got to #24 and took forever to peak and fall off.
I know there are weirder occurences but was wondering about songs that were in the Top 100 for a long time but didnt really peak high. Any songs you guys can think of ? Or songs that spent very little time in the Top 100 but peaked high.
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Post by mkarns on Apr 6, 2010 22:11:24 GMT -5
Probably the quintessential 80s example of this was Soft Cell's "Tainted Love", which entered the Hot 100 in January 1982 and spent a then-record 43 weeks on. But it didn't enter the top 40 until May 22, four months after its chart debut, and peaked at #8 on July 17.
In 1984-85 Diana Ross' "Missing You" was on the chart for six months but only spent nine weeks in the top 40, peaking at #10 in April 1985. Apparently it got into the 40s and slipped back a bit before rebounding. I was told of that on this board, after making a post wondering if its #49 position on the 1985 year-end chart, ahead of many songs that charted higher, was a mistake.
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Post by 80sfreak on Apr 7, 2010 18:57:02 GMT -5
I remember key largo taking forever as well. something like 25 weeks to peak.
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Post by Hervard on Apr 10, 2010 17:38:08 GMT -5
The reason that "Thriller" debuted so high and only got as high as #4 was because they delayed its single release until pretty much after its airplay had peaked. Had they released it at the same time they began playing it on the radio, it would have probably gotten to #1, like it did on R&R.
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Post by Big Red Machine on Apr 10, 2010 18:42:35 GMT -5
The reason that "Thriller" debuted so high and only got as high as #4 was because they delayed its single release until pretty much after its airplay had peaked. Had they released it at the same time they began playing it on the radio, it would have probably gotten to #1, like it did on R&R. Great info. Any other songs in the 1970-1988 era that didn't peak as it should have due to a late release? |
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Post by Hervard on Apr 10, 2010 20:47:59 GMT -5
I know that "Imagine" by John Lennon, from 1971, was released late, which accounts for why it spent only nine weeks on the Hot 100 despite peaking at #3.
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Post by 80sfreak on Apr 10, 2010 22:10:24 GMT -5
The reason that "Thriller" debuted so high and only got as high as #4 was because they delayed its single release until pretty much after its airplay had peaked. Had they released it at the same time they began playing it on the radio, it would have probably gotten to #1, like it did on R&R. thanks for the interesting info. i figured cause it was the last single off that album and everyone and their cat had bought it already that the song just fizzled after its release. funny as that song was the most played when he passed away and yet wasnt even close to his biggest charting hit. |
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Post by jgve1952 on Apr 10, 2010 22:26:56 GMT -5
I think the reason "Thriller" didn't do as well either, is because it was the 7th single released from the title album that I think almost EVERYONE already had. Why would anyone buy the single, especially noting that the album ONLY had nine songs, and this is the 7th one to become a single?
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Post by Josh Joel's Top 40 on Apr 11, 2010 20:00:27 GMT -5
OK, Christopher Cross' brand new single "All Right" at the time debuted at #29 on the entire Hot 100, but then it peaked only at #12. According to R&R it hit #3. What's up with that? Here's his chart run
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Post by easye on Apr 12, 2010 1:52:26 GMT -5
Video for "Thriller" was very long. Song itself was relatively long as well. People got tired of it fairly quickly. If I am not mistaken, another Jackson-sung tune from that year "State Of Shock" had a somewhat similar run, but I do not remember the exact details. Of course these days, high debuts and fast droppers in the Hot 100 are hardly unusual.
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Post by CountEmUp on Apr 12, 2010 19:50:37 GMT -5
Actually a similar thing happened with Michael Jackson's next album as well. "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" was the first single, but most radio stations chose to play the title track "Bad" just as frequently. So "Bad" quickly became the second single, and consequently both songs had shorter-than-normal chart runs. Although they both did hit #1, they both fared poorly on the 1987 year-end countdown.
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Post by jgve1952 on Apr 13, 2010 19:32:48 GMT -5
A lot of Beatles songs faired poorly because they rose so fast to the top of the charts but only spent 10 or so weeks on the Hot 100, but didn't accumulate many points compared to songs that SLOWLY climbed the charts, and took a while to descend down the charts. A good example of that was 1964's Can't Buy We Love which jumped from 27 to 1 stayed there a few weeks but then started dropping and for the Year was only around the #50 record of the year. Similar fates happened to Ticket To Ride, Eight Days A Week and Penny Lane. Some other songs that are classics and didn't reach number include Lady Madonna and Yellow Submarine, which also didn't do well but took monster jumps after their release.
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Post by mstgator on Apr 20, 2010 21:39:45 GMT -5
This one really isn't that weird (peaked at #70 and spent 13 weeks on the Hot 100), but the fact that it was chosen as an extra on last week's "AT40: The '70s" makes it somewhat worth noting.
Keith Hampshire, "The First Cut Is The Deepest"
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And another song that had just started its climb on the Hot 100 around that time would go on to have one of the strangest chart runs of any song ever. That, of course, would be "Why Me" by Kris Kristofferson.
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Post by 80sfreak on Apr 25, 2010 14:47:27 GMT -5
Never listened to the 70s countdowns so I am not sure if 70s chart movement was always like this but was listening to this weeks show and Welcome Back from John Sebastian zoomed thru the charts and got to #1 in 7 weeks (5 in Top 40), and then dropped out of #1 right away after 1 week.
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Post by canat40fan on Apr 25, 2010 23:25:49 GMT -5
This one really isn't that weird (peaked at #70 and spent 13 weeks on the Hot 100), but the fact that it was chosen as an extra on last week's "AT40: The '70s" makes it somewhat worth noting. Keith Hampshire, "The First Cut Is The Deepest" 100-85-80-74-70-70-70-83-76-74-74-76-78 Peaking at #70 on the Hot 100 and being chosen as an extra is extremely odd. I'd certainly like to find out the reasoning for the sake of curiousity. Keith Hampshire was based out of Canada and the song hit #1 up here in '73 so it's very familar. Unfortunately I didn't hear it during the AT40 classic re-broadcast as my usual station does not play the extras. |
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