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Post by Hervard on Jan 14, 2017 11:51:33 GMT -5
In this weekend CHR countdown, Highest debut in CHR is #12 Machine Gun Kelley - Bad Things, biggest record in all WT40 history! I just listened to that part of the show and you'd think that Rick would at least make a mention that it was the highest debut in the history of his show, but he just said it was the highest debut of the week, as if such a high debut happened on a weekly basis. All the more reason to believe it's a case of "My Happy Ending" syndrome. Of course, Seacrest didn't say anything about that song being a debut; just something about it being the subject of many e-mails over the past few weeks (Gee, I wonder why!). It was as if the song had been on the chart all along.
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Post by kani on Jan 14, 2017 12:40:42 GMT -5
In this weekend CHR countdown, Highest debut in CHR is #12 Machine Gun Kelley - Bad Things, biggest record in all WT40 history! I just listened to that part of the show and you'd think that Rick would at least make a mention that it was the highest debut in the history of his show, but he just said it was the highest debut of the week, as if such a high debut happened on a weekly basis. All the more reason to believe it's a case of "My Happy Ending" syndrome. Of course, Seacrest didn't say anything about that song being a debut; just something about it being the subject of many e-mails over the past few weeks (Gee, I wonder why!). It was as if the song had been on the chart all along. You mean to say that Avril Lavigne My Happy Ending made a highest debut in 2004 but didn't say anything? Also I don't get it, the 80s and 90s retro pages updated the caption, but didn't update current pages for CHR and HAC which it's still showing "top 40 of 2016". Like someone said it may take webmaster some time to get things to normal, maybe to return the chart displaying but I highly doubt it
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Post by Hervard on Jan 14, 2017 13:08:29 GMT -5
I just listened to that part of the show and you'd think that Rick would at least make a mention that it was the highest debut in the history of his show, but he just said it was the highest debut of the week, as if such a high debut happened on a weekly basis. All the more reason to believe it's a case of "My Happy Ending" syndrome. Of course, Seacrest didn't say anything about that song being a debut; just something about it being the subject of many e-mails over the past few weeks (Gee, I wonder why!). It was as if the song had been on the chart all along. You mean to say that Avril Lavigne My Happy Ending made a highest debut in 2004 but didn't say anything? Well, that's probably because the song should have debuted two months (or so) before it did. It has been said that the song was listed twice on the Mediabase list, as "My Happy Ending" and "(So Much For) My Happy Ending" and since both songs had their points split up between them, neither had enough points to make the Top 40. Apparently, when they got all the e-mail regarding why that song wasn't on the countdown yet, they checked and found the mistake and when it was corrected, the song had enough points to be on the survey up in the mid-teens (#13 or #14, I believe, but I don't remember for sure). So Seacrest didn't mention it as a debut to cover up the mistake and instead, as I said, acted as if it had been on the chart for several weeks before.
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Post by johnnywest on Jan 14, 2017 13:50:54 GMT -5
Nice to hear "HandClap" on hot AC.
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Post by woolebull on Jan 14, 2017 18:32:25 GMT -5
Nice to hear "HandClap" on hot AC. For all the talk about how Rick messes up big hits and charting on the CHR, how is it that "HandClap" is just debuting on Dees, while it is Top 10 on AT 40 HAC? That one has me scratching my head, for sure. It's not like the song came out two weeks ago. Or two months ago even.
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Post by woolebull on Jan 14, 2017 18:46:47 GMT -5
The mystery is solved. That was the HAC countdown I was listening to earlier. Although it was labeled as being the CHR version. But now that I have procured the CHR version of the show from rick.com, it is obvious that what I heard earlier is the HAC version. So still the R&R CHR chart that he is using in January 1995. He just gave a shout out to Steve Perry having a birthday and he had one of the songs in the HAC show that is not in the CHR show, "Missing You". So, we are pretty confident that for the most part Dees followed R and R faithfully for the 90's, except for the span in which he used the more urban CHR (Which I love, just because it almost gave Groove Theory a top 10 hit in 1996, but I digress). However, there are at least two times he went rogue with the number one spot: as mentioned, "Can You Feel The Love Tonight" and then in 1999 with "Believe". Are there any other times that people caught him manipulating the songs and their positions in the 90's (again excluding the Urban years...)?
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Post by freakyflybry on Jan 14, 2017 20:14:10 GMT -5
In 2000, Santana's "Maria Maria" and Pink's "Most Girls" were artificially bumped up to #1.
Similarly in 1998, he did the same with the Backstreet Boys' "As Long As You Love Me".
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Post by Hervard on Jan 15, 2017 11:29:36 GMT -5
The week after the Elton John song in 1994, "Wild Night" by John Mellencamp & whatshername was also placed at #1 even though it didn't get #1 on the R&R chart.
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Post by mitchm on Jan 18, 2017 11:25:25 GMT -5
I sent Rick an email this morning complaining about the fact that they no longer provide charts for the 2017 "Hot Adult Countdown" or the "Hit Radio Countdown". I have been entering those countdown charts into an Excel spreadsheet for about 3 years now, so I really miss them. I have put listening to Rick's countdowns (80s, 90s, and two current ones) much lower on my priority list lately, and have yet to hear any in 2017. I am hoping to listen to the 1986 countdown tonight, but we will see what happens. I do expect to listen to some Rick countdowns in the near future, but I haven't been able to squeeze them into my schedule lately, and I am retired, so time shouldn't be the problem.
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Post by BrettVW on Jan 18, 2017 18:17:51 GMT -5
Can you not listen to the shows? Or are the charts simply not published?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 19:35:07 GMT -5
I sent Rick an email this morning complaining about the fact that they no longer provide charts for the 2017 "Hot Adult Countdown" or the "Hit Radio Countdown". I have been entering those countdown charts into an Excel spreadsheet for about 3 years now, so I really miss them. I have put listening to Rick's countdowns (80s, 90s, and two current ones) much lower on my priority list lately, and have yet to hear any in 2017. I am hoping to listen to the 1986 countdown tonight, but we will see what happens. I do expect to listen to some Rick countdowns in the near future, but I haven't been able to squeeze them into my schedule lately, and I am retired, so time shouldn't be the problem. Someone might list it on the pulse music board.
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Post by kani on Jan 20, 2017 11:36:09 GMT -5
Rick.com seemed to update the correct captions on current both formats no longer saying top 40 of 2016
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Post by Michael1973 on Jan 20, 2017 14:13:25 GMT -5
For all the talk about how Rick messes up big hits and charting on the CHR, how is it that "HandClap" is just debuting on Dees, while it is Top 10 on AT 40 HAC? That one has me scratching my head, for sure. It's not like the song came out two weeks ago. Or two months ago even. This is because Rick is trending towards debuting the same songs on both shows each week, regardless of whether or not they actually belong on both charts. Songs like HandClap, which until recently was only on one of the two formats, are getting completely ignored. But now that Fitz has entered the CHR chart, it's now showing up on HAC as well. It makes you wonder why they even bother doing two shows anymore.
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Post by kani on Jan 20, 2017 14:27:37 GMT -5
For all the talk about how Rick messes up big hits and charting on the CHR, how is it that "HandClap" is just debuting on Dees, while it is Top 10 on AT 40 HAC? That one has me scratching my head, for sure. It's not like the song came out two weeks ago. Or two months ago even. This is because Rick is trending towards debuting the same songs on both shows each week, regardless of whether or not they actually belong on both charts. Songs like HandClap, which until recently was only on one of the two formats, are getting completely ignored. But now that Fitz has entered the CHR chart, it's now showing up on HAC as well. It makes you wonder why they even bother doing two shows anymore. Yeah, but Dees has Play That Song in HAC chart, but not in CHR though. But rest of it is in both formats
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Post by mjl677 on Jan 29, 2017 18:52:11 GMT -5
1/28/89 was up this weekend. Despite it being a repeat again, I will always catch the late 1988-89 shows as Premiere won't do those months. It's a funny coincidence Rick Dees mentions Donald Trump buying the United States in this show. Who would have thought 28 years from then, he would be president?
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