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Post by vto66 on May 9, 2009 17:56:19 GMT -5
I was at work. By the above sentence, does that mean no edits? There were some edits, but compared to the major surgery 80s on 8 performed on last week's 1982 AT40 show, this was a little bit closer to the AT40 we know and love. |
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Post by snarfdude on May 10, 2009 10:09:47 GMT -5
I'd believe it. I usually catch it in the car, but realized that it's finally a 128kbps stream online now, so I'm recording the feed this morning, as today is my B'day, and would be neat to have have it from 1979, when I was 12.
Some of the cuts are just plain sloppy, and far more noticable on the stream.
Also, I don't know if it's the stream, but there seems to be noticable artifacts on occasion possibly due to noise reduction software added upon restoration. Premiere could have done it after shannon's transfers, who knows, it's pretty clean....I can hear tape drop outs in some cases...LOL!
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Post by reachinforthestars on May 10, 2009 11:05:51 GMT -5
XM 80's is playing 5/9/87.
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Post by cheocheo on May 10, 2009 20:08:00 GMT -5
1982="SOFT": Reachinforthestars is exactly right. I've always thought that the arrival of "Don't You Want Me" was a big turning point, coincidental with MTV's growing popularity. I happen to love the period from 1977-1982. I like to frame that as the period between Fleetwood Mac's Rumors and Michael Jackson's Thriller, two of the biggest albums of all time. Yes there's a lot of soft stuff sandwiched in there, but I dig it.  CRACKLING: The crackles and pops on SXM70's (and to some extent SXM80's) is dribing me nuts. I know others have mentioned it, so I have two questions: (1) what browser/OS are you using? (2) Has anyone written them about it? AT40 is the ONLY thing I listen to XM for - and pay 7.99/mo for. This noise and the ridiculous edits are going to lose me soon. BTW, one thing I do like about the XMonline stream is that it can paused! This way I can pause it and change out the CD in my CD recorder during the heavily abbreviated theme music! |
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Post by mkarns on May 11, 2009 11:03:40 GMT -5
I've noticed that this is the second time in the past three weeks that Sirius XM has played a countdown from thirty years ago-Until Premiere decides to air the four-hour countdowns from October 1978 to December 1979,Sirius XM is our only source. It seems odd that after months of largely overlooking that part of the decade, we suddenly get two 1979 countdowns less than a month apart. But since we don't get to hear them otherwise, I'm not complaining. XM-70s (unlike its 80s counterpart) was even generous enough to air the entire countdown even though it ran about 10-15 minutes past the allotted three hour block--which meant that my Saturday afternoon recording of it cut off during #3. Fortunately I got a second chance at midnight Sunday. |
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Post by snarfdude on May 11, 2009 19:21:22 GMT -5
XM 80's is playing 5/9/87. funny, as I was recording the 1979 countdown because of my birthday, in the 80's, the 5/09/87 # 872-6 is one I have the original international version of the program discs for...made it easier to just record the 70's countdown. |
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Post by snarfdude on May 11, 2009 19:38:23 GMT -5
1982="SOFT": CRACKLING: The crackles and pops on SXM70's (and to some extent SXM80's) is dribing me nuts. I know others have mentioned it, so I have two questions: (1) what browser/OS are you using? (2) Has anyone written them about it? AT40 is the ONLY thing I listen to XM for - and pay 7.99/mo for. This noise and the ridiculous edits are going to lose me soon. BTW, one thing I do like about the XMonline stream is that it can paused! This way I can pause it and change out the CD in my CD recorder during the heavily abbreviated theme music! God, you're using a CD recorder? I didn't think many were still around for CD audio. I just record right to the hard drive as a mp3 though my audio console in my production studio, OR you can just grab it though any PC sound card using total recorder. my 256 kbps stereo file is about 330 meg, and with more and more CD players being able to play mp3 files, and it's only a 128kbps quality stream anyway, so quality won't be severely lost. As for the clicks and pops, realistically, when vinyl is your source, you can only do so much. As I haven't heard an original wav file source from shannon's transfers, I hesitate to comment about his quality, but he's only as good as the source. groove distortion can also be apparent, especially in segments closer to the center of the disc (segs 3 and 6 especially) but that's to be expected. It's the vinyl medium, and your pushing for 24 mins/per side when the best quality results are achieved by only putting 18-20 minutes/side for any vinyl LP. That's the benefit of the CT40 shows, 6 discs, less audio crammed/side and better quality. noise reduction at best is a tricky, time consuming business to apply to any audio file. too much, it can sound tinny and lack of life, too little and it doesn't do anything. keep in mind the rarity of these shows, and you're lucky to actually hear them, as this stuff was suppose to be played once or twice and tossed in the trash. Some program discs from some syndicators actually say this on them (the united stations shows usually say "must be destroyed after broadcast") and the tapes have long been since erased as no one saw the future nostaglia value 20 or 30 years ago. In fact commerical radio in general is very bad for not preserving it's history. I have saved both tapes, program discs, even studio equipment from the dumpster to build my own studio in my basement. In that context, a few pops and clicks and some groove distortion to me is really no major deal. If it still is, try adjusting your top end on your eq settings on your audio equipment (also known as the treble control) as they are usually all high frequency information. This may not be a solution, but might be a bit more tolerable to you. |
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Post by cheocheo on May 11, 2009 22:22:08 GMT -5
Snarfdude, You're absolutely right about being happy that we have these at shows at all. I'm sure these shows, like so many things in pop culture, are not recognized for their future nostalgic value. I'm thrilled to have the shows. I remember in 2000 or so, I absolutely flipped when the "Flashback" shows came on terrestrial radio. And I was perfectly happy with my cassette recordings from an over-the-air signal. And those were only 80's and only three hours! Having said that, I must make it clear that I'm not talking about record crackle. I'm no audiophile, but I'm aware of such sounds as well as the various distortion found at different points in the record. I'm also aware of recording levels, and I'm not clipping. These sounds never occurred on the XM radio I had, nor on the XM channels bundled with Direct TV. (XM on Direct TV was way better than 128k, too, I must say.) These are loud digital pops that are in the online streaming signal on several XM channels, not just during the AT40 show. Almost like the sound of pulling a guitar cable out of a guitar without turning the amp down first. There's some discussion here: www.xmfan.com/viewtopic.php?p=1574364(I happen to love the moments when I hear the record crackling on AT40! It reminds me of when I'd hear record crackle over FM radio.) Thanks for the tips on the software for going straight to mp3 on the hard drive. I know it's a little crazy to use my (ancient: 2000) rack-mount CD recorder, but I'm getting a decent digital signal path all the way. I only use my AT40 recordings for CD listening in the car anway, so this way I have instant gratification. Not so good for archiving, I suppose. Cheers! |
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Post by snarfdude on May 14, 2009 4:42:49 GMT -5
Snarfdude, You're absolutely right about being happy that we have these at shows at all. I'm sure these shows, like so many things in pop culture, are not recognized for their future nostalgic value. I'm thrilled to have the shows. I remember in 2000 or so, I absolutely flipped when the "Flashback" shows came on terrestrial radio. And I was perfectly happy with my cassette recordings from an over-the-air signal. And those were only 80's and only three hours! Having said that, I must make it clear that I'm not talking about record crackle. I'm no audiophile, but I'm aware of such sounds as well as the various distortion found at different points in the record. I'm also aware of recording levels, and I'm not clipping. These sounds never occurred on the XM radio I had, nor on the XM channels bundled with Direct TV. (XM on Direct TV was way better than 128k, too, I must say.) These are loud digital pops that are in the online streaming signal on several XM channels, not just during the AT40 show. Almost like the sound of pulling a guitar cable out of a guitar without turning the amp down first. There's some discussion here: www.xmfan.com/viewtopic.php?p=1574364(I happen to love the moments when I hear the record crackling on AT40! It reminds me of when I'd hear record crackle over FM radio.) Thanks for the tips on the software for going straight to mp3 on the hard drive. I know it's a little crazy to use my (ancient: 2000) rack-mount CD recorder, but I'm getting a decent digital signal path all the way. I only use my AT40 recordings for CD listening in the car anway, so this way I have instant gratification. Not so good for archiving, I suppose. Cheers! cool......if it's a digital pop, obviously it could be clipping somewhere in the audio chain and that's the problem. from the link from the group you mentioned, it's intermittent, and that's probably the worst thing to try to track down and fix as I know from experience repairing the gear in my studio. depending on their distribution chain, it can have many components that could all easy contribute something you describe, and figure out which one is the problem is such a pain. I didn't hear anything like that on the 128kbps stream, but who knows. according to wikipedia, the encoding format used with the radios is one created by lucent technologies and it not a standard mp3 or Flac or AAC format which are far more well known and give reasonable and decent if not high quality. My SXM, albeit a cheap visor radio which I use through the FM transmitter sounds terrible most of the time, not mucc better then a AM radio, if there's anything it's putting out that's over 10khz top end i'd be surprised. noticable encoding artifacts also. I obviously blame the encoding scheme here or my cheap radio, as the internet stream sounds far better then what I hear in the car. I'm in canada, so SXM won't come come on satellite for me, though generally speaking with mpeg 2 encoding for video being an existing standard, the audio quality should be far better then anything bouncing off the sirius satellites. What i'd like to hear, is a copy of a set of the flashback CDs as a point of reference to see what they have to work with. from there, you can figure out where the loss is, IE is it the source, and don't expect much better? I can't really says much about a CD recorder, other then it works for you...I don't have patience to flip discs...easier to record it and edit it later....but if you don't have a car CD player that can handle mp3's, that's probably simpler then editing a 4 hour file, then burning to 4 CDs....doing it real time is probably quicker. I plan to only do the shows around my birthday I don't have already for the original LP's or copies somewhere. It's so tedious, and I have other programming i'm dubbing from reels and vinyl for my internet stream that eats up time, that you can only do real time. such a pain...LOL! |
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Post by reachinforthestars on May 16, 2009 11:14:34 GMT -5
XM 70's is playing 5/15/1971.
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Post by vto66 on May 16, 2009 11:59:43 GMT -5
XM 70's is playing 5/15/1971. Well, so much for the theory that SXM has started to ignore early 70s AT40 shows. Quite a bit of variety on this particular countdown. Is it just me, or did that Brewer and Shipley song sound an awful lot like something The Beatles would have done toward the end of their run as a group? |
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Post by mrjukebox on May 16, 2009 15:41:41 GMT -5
The 5/15/71 countdown was great to hear-Last week,terrestrial radio played the countdown from the previous week-If Premiere were to ever air this countdown,they might have edited out one or more of the "AT40 Specials",which were by Ernie K Doe,Pat Boone,& The Mamas & Papas.
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Post by pizzzzza on May 17, 2009 11:07:32 GMT -5
I thought it was weird when I was 'channel surfing' on SXM this morning around 9:30 and heard AT 40 - the 80s - being played on SXM Channel 8 - so went to the SXM website, and lo and behold, saw this:
Casey Kasem 7a-11a Sundays
So, it looks like the 80s AT 40 show got moved.
Does anyone know if this is permanent, and if so, will it be repeated, or is it a one shot deal each week?
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Post by coldcardinal on May 17, 2009 11:10:31 GMT -5
Arrrgh. Well that just threw everything off. I guess I'll have to catch the evening rerun.
What show did they play?
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Post by reachinforthestars on May 17, 2009 11:27:56 GMT -5
So, it looks like the 80s AT 40 show got moved. If I didn't know better, I would think that XM is doing everything possible to drive away their customers who only receive XM to listen to AT40. |
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