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Post by your friend on May 27, 2014 15:07:46 GMT -5
barring a renewed interest in chart positioning the format was never going back to what it was before either. I keep hearing this thread that Casey's AT40 wouldn't have made it much longer because no one cares about charts and positions. This isn't addressed directly to you, but to this strain of argument I keep reading. I think this is a weak argument at best - we are currently living at the zenith of the Information Age. We have vast amounts of data at our fingertips and are living at a time where everyone from FICO Credit Scores and Google are making decisions based off our data. People don't care about data? Fact of the matter is, people care tremendously about data and how it is presented. Ryan Seacrest, however, has always been more of a celebrity-gossip type person prior to AT40, so we shouldn't be surprised that is what the show caters to now. I think it smacks of laziness to throw a countdown show together, and focus on the gossip instead of the numbers. But that requires data analysis and it is SOOOOOO much easier to regurgitate the same tabloid crap than it is to analyze and compile fresh and interesting data every week.
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Post by your friend on May 15, 2014 22:55:49 GMT -5
Thank goodness he is alive and okay! I don't know if I would go as far as saying Jean is a gold digger. I think she most likely loves her husband... and that the long-standing feud may have more to do with her not wanting to be reminded that Casey has flesh-and-blood who love him, too. It is really quite selfish of her. But Casey did choose to be married to her for 30-something years. "We know he has an affliction, but he was alert, upright, dressed, groomed and cognizant of what was going on," Wilson said. "We see a lot of at-risk adults and children. This wasn't anywhere close to being suspicious." www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/05/15/casey-kasem-reportedly-located-in-washington-state/I wonder how much he is cognizant of, though? Is it limited to what is going on around him in the present moment, or is he aware of what a debacle this situation is? I am leaning towards the former, not the latter as a more likely possibility....
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Post by your friend on May 14, 2014 9:54:34 GMT -5
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Post by your friend on Apr 30, 2014 14:52:23 GMT -5
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Post by your friend on Apr 30, 2014 13:43:32 GMT -5
Today I heard a current Dees show other than a year end show for probably the first time in 2 years or more. I must say the show is awful. There is no life to it anymore. You can say you hated how he handled the chart and all in decades past but there was always an energy and vibrancy to it. There isn't anymore. The dees centric verses to start songs off before going in to the actual song is waaaayyyyy beyond stale. It's like a Peep that you just leave out, it starts soft then gets hard, then soft again, so on and so forth and while you don't throw it out you wouldn't dare eat it it's so bad now. I know he's a legend in radio but it's time to call it a career. After Casey retired, I stopped listening to pop music. I couldn't stand Seacrest and I used to not like Dees in comparison to Kasem (plus, Rick wasn't carried in the Saint Paul-Minneapolis market). A couple years ago I stumbled upon Rick's radio app, and while the show does have some issues, I enjoy it far more than Seacrest. I didn't think it was flat-out awful, and I do find those song intros pretty fun. Some weeks Rick sounds more energetic than others, for sure.
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Post by your friend on Nov 24, 2013 1:07:13 GMT -5
Just remember that Casey chose to marry Jean in the 1980s so he must love and trust her. Let's not be so hard on Jean until she has her say. Maybe she's good maybe she's not. But as a caregiver myself, I know that you sometimes have to make decisions that are not those that others would agree with but you do so because you're trying to protect the patient. Let's give Jean the chance to give her side of the story. After that we can decide whether Jean's actions are good or not. I simply cannot give her the benefit of the doubt. Casey is slowly dying, and his wife will not allow his children to visit him. That is simply cruel. Not to mention Casey apparently wishes to visit his children, too: www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/casey-kasem-kids-visit-judge-article-1.1522739
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Post by your friend on Jul 3, 2013 11:18:46 GMT -5
Back when Casey was hosting AT40, I never thought I would listen to Rick Dees.
Now I find myself not caring about AT40 with Seacrest as host, and prefer listening to Dees.
Pitbull? REALLY? Talk about putting pearls before swine...
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Post by your friend on Jun 18, 2013 9:42:31 GMT -5
To make the syndicated/national program appear local. Is anyone fooled by this? It seems so artificial to have Ryan Seacrest "pretend" like he is broadcasting locally. And it further muddies the entire idea behind American Top 40.
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Post by your friend on Jun 11, 2013 10:56:08 GMT -5
Well, there isn't any hard data to support that claim, we are both relying on anecdotal evidence.
In my home market, of the stations that play modern music 50% use jingles:
KDWB - CHR - Jingles KSTP - Hot AC - Jingles KTCZ - AAA - Voiceover KTWN - Modern AC - Voiceover
While correlation does not imply causation, it still is relevant to point out that the 2 stations which use jingles have much higher PPMs than the 2 that don't.
When I travel out-of-state, I still definitely hear jingles being used. My own personal experience is that stations with more up-tempo music tend to use jingles.
BUT since we don't have any hard-and-fast data to definitively say stations overwhelmingly prefer one over the other, I can't make the assertion that the majority of stations don't want jingles.
What I do recall reading once is that Kelly Doherty - who is the national director of Clear Channel's imaging - doesn't like jingles. I read it years ago and can't find the weblink anymore where I read that... but I remember that fact vividly.
Thus, I tend to think we are dealing with "KellyKellyKelly"'s preference rather than any sort of definitive evidence that suggests CHR stations don't want jingles...
I think there is a proper use for voiceovers, but they simply fall flat as far as identifying AT40 with a memorable auditory cue when coming out of commercial breaks.
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Post by your friend on Jun 10, 2013 21:22:31 GMT -5
Most I know don't and if they do it is nowhere near the way it used to be. Haven't heard a jingle on our local CHR or Hit AC station since I moved here in 2008. Hadn't heard one on the station that airs the show in Jacksonville in years. Don't think the one in Orlando does either. Haven't heard one on KIIS in years either. Not sure about Z100. I stated above I hear less and less of them so doesn't seem like they must be working like they used to in advertising or needed in station jingle land either. ReelWorld has KISS-FM's latest jingle package for 2013... Their updated jingle package is available to listen to on reelworld.com/flashindex.php, look in the CHR area.
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Post by your friend on Jun 10, 2013 20:06:33 GMT -5
I hear less and less in terms of jingles on the radio. If anyone is going to listen when they hear a jingle, they'll listen when they hear "You're On Air with Ryan Seacrest...on AT40" So, no I do not think jingles matter. And as I stated, the show is designed to fit seamlessly into most CHR stations. So the imaging sounds just like everything else on the stations. That's why Premiere does the show that way. That is what stations want, thus that is what they get. If jingles don't matter, why would advertisers continue to use them? Here in the Saint Paul-Minneapolis market, the local CHR (KDWB) and Hot AC (KS95) both use jingles and refresh them every year or so. If anything, it's AT40 that sounds "out of place" on KDWB....
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Post by your friend on Jun 10, 2013 18:01:50 GMT -5
Yeah, so like I said.....you claim jingles give people a reason to listen (pardon me, the way you have gone about it if I misinterpreted most in that I apologize). I never listened for jingles. Don't think about 99% of others did either. So, no I wasn't battling any straw men. But, of course I noticed in your retort you didn't address anything else I wrote. So, I presume that your argument is that if a jingles comes on it doesn't give people a reason to "perk up" and listen? I disagree. A jingle is an audible cue, and if done well reinforces a positive message. Sure, people don't listen to a show explicitly for the jingles. But they do catch attention in a way that voiceovers cannot do. That's why people hum along to jingles, and why advertisers use them. Do you disagree?
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Post by your friend on Jun 10, 2013 15:43:06 GMT -5
I said: "The current imaging doesn't give people a reason to listen and remember the show." You then twisted that into: "So, jingles going in and out of commercial breaks are the reason why most people should listen?" I'm not sure why you would do this, but you may wish to review the following logical fallacy: Description of Straw ManThe Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern: 1. Person A has position X. 2. Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X). 3. Person B attacks position Y. 4. Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed. This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person.
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Post by your friend on Jun 10, 2013 14:40:33 GMT -5
So, jingles going in and out of commercial breaks are the reason why most people should listen? Strange, I always listened to hear the host count down the top 40 and the songs he counted down. I don't recall saying that they are the reason why most people should listen. They are a reason that can get people who have the station on to "perk up". It only takes 2 seconds for a hook to catch someone's attention. The show's imaging should be unique and identifiable that give the show a memorable sound. No one hums along or remembers KellyKellyKelly when she says "American Top 40" in her detached robotic voice. But people do remember a jingle and guitar riff. AT40's current imaging seems to miss part of the point of having effective imaging... "Five. Five dollar. Five dollar foot-long.""Hotwiiiiiire dot. com." "freeeeee credit report dot. com.""Sweet Jack (woof woof)... it's a real sweet deal!"
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Post by your friend on Jun 10, 2013 11:26:59 GMT -5
The point isn't to "fit in perfectly", the point is to make the show sound more distinctive. The current imaging the show uses is quite forgettable. The current show intro is a complete mess as well.
Most people I know who have been listening to AT40 remember either Casey's old jingles and Ryan's old jingles and would sing or hum along. The little tune sticks in listener's minds and has positive connotations.
The current imaging doesn't give people a reason to listen and remember the show.
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