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Post by Jeffster on Feb 25, 2007 9:48:08 GMT -5
Okay, in "Countdown of the Century", Rob talked about how when Casey went to AMFM in 1998, they got rid of Westwood One's rule about only have one Casey show on in each market. But I have this vague recollection of reading somewhere that Premiere had brought that rule back. So my question is, are there markets where both of Casey's current shows are running? If a station in my market is running AT20, and I had another station and wanted to put AT10, or the 70's flashback shows on, could I do it? Just wondering.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2007 12:50:58 GMT -5
Are you starting Jeffster Radio International Enterprises?
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Post by Topay on Feb 25, 2007 14:10:42 GMT -5
I don't see the harm of two stations running different Casey shows, provided (1) they don't conflict with each other time-wise, and (2) they're owned by the same company. I would even argue #2, but I have enough business recollection to know that such a provision would have to exist in order to waive market exclusivity.
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Post by Jeffster on Feb 25, 2007 23:38:18 GMT -5
In the scenario I'm talking about, the stations would not be owned by the same company.
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Post by Jeffster on Feb 25, 2007 23:39:16 GMT -5
Are you starting Jeffster Radio International Enterprises? International? Let's not get ahead of ourselves.  |
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Post by Michael1973 on Feb 26, 2007 14:29:45 GMT -5
When Seacrest took over in 2004, I got an email from a local radio station's PD saying that up until then, he couldn't air AT40 because another station in the market carried AT20.
Not sure if this answers your question...
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Post by BrettVW on Feb 26, 2007 16:15:17 GMT -5
I know that for a time in Cincinnati, Casey-era AT40, AT20, and AT40 Flashback all aired in the market. WKFS aired AT40 while WVMX aired AT20 and AT40 Flashback. Once Flashback was cancelled, WKFS aired Casey's AT40 and WVMX aired AT20. These are all Clear Channel stations, so I'm sure that has something to do with it. However, prior to January of 2004, Casey was heard on both AT40 and AT20 in Cinci.
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Post by Radioman on Feb 27, 2007 5:46:01 GMT -5
I know this was discussed out here quite alot of times.
But as I always stated: There IS a market exclusivity for Casey's shows, even after the WW1 era. It doesn't count if this happens officially or not.
There may be a specific model for selected markets ( like Cinci ), but usually you will find only ONE of Casey's shows in ONE market.
Belong to that, I do have my problems with comparing the "very succesful" performance of today's AT40 with the shows from 4 years ago. If you won't let it sell anywhere, you can't make that number of stations than it has todate.
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Post by shadster on Mar 2, 2007 20:13:40 GMT -5
I'm kinda leaning toward the exclusivity rule. Casey was 'missing' from DC from '92 till somewhere around the new millenium. I'm not sure exactly when WASH fm picked up (what is NOW called) AT-10 but I know that WASH allso aired the flashback series. Casey's HOT-AC show has never been aired on a DC station, & once Ryan took over, AT40 returned to dc. However, there are 'other' stations which are officially in smaller markets but still get Arbitron ratings in DC which carry AT20. Everyone basically once a piece of the DC Advertising dollar so the fringe markets re-position their towers, boost their signals, etc. to reach the dc area. There are 2 stations, WINC in Winchester VA & WBQB in Fredricksburg VA, which both air AT20 on Sunday mornings and they come in very well around here. So if you've got a radio station, change your city of license and then you can carry Casey shows  |
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Post by Radioman on Mar 5, 2007 2:15:52 GMT -5
I'm kinda leaning toward the exclusivity rule. Casey was 'missing' from DC from '92 till somewhere around the new millenium. I'm not sure exactly when WASH fm picked up (what is NOW called) AT-10 but I know that WASH allso aired the flashback series. Casey's HOT-AC show has never been aired on a DC station, & once Ryan took over, AT40 returned to dc. However, there are 'other' stations which are officially in smaller markets but still get Arbitron ratings in DC which carry AT20. Everyone basically once a piece of the DC Advertising dollar so the fringe markets re-position their towers, boost their signals, etc. to reach the dc area. There are 2 stations, WINC in Winchester VA & WBQB in Fredricksburg VA, which both air AT20 on Sunday mornings and they come in very well around here. So if you've got a radio station, change your city of license and then you can carry Casey shows In other words: This confirms there is an existing market exclusivity for Casey Kasem programmes. Something wich we don't have for Classic AT40 in the 80s, wich multiples the number of total affiliates back in the old days. |
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Post by shadster on Mar 7, 2007 19:29:38 GMT -5
Well, what about New York? I know that the 'condensed' version of AT10 airs up there on some station....how long has 'that' been going on? Was it being aired at the same time that Z100 aired AT40 (which they aired @2am sunday nite)?
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Post by BrettVW on Mar 7, 2007 19:38:21 GMT -5
The one hour version of AT10 has been airing on WLTW in NYC since late summer/early fall 2005, so it was never an issue with Z100 and Casey. WALK in Long Island had previously aired AT10, I don't know how long they had been running Casey's AC show but it is a seperate market so it would not matter. And yes, Casey's last stop on Z100 was early Monday morning from 1am-5am.
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Post by Jeffster on Mar 11, 2007 9:46:38 GMT -5
I'm kinda leaning toward the exclusivity rule. Casey was 'missing' from DC from '92 till somewhere around the new millenium. I'm not sure exactly when WASH fm picked up (what is NOW called) AT-10 but I know that WASH allso aired the flashback series. Casey's HOT-AC show has never been aired on a DC station, & once Ryan took over, AT40 returned to dc. However, there are 'other' stations which are officially in smaller markets but still get Arbitron ratings in DC which carry AT20. Everyone basically once a piece of the DC Advertising dollar so the fringe markets re-position their towers, boost their signals, etc. to reach the dc area. There are 2 stations, WINC in Winchester VA & WBQB in Fredricksburg VA, which both air AT20 on Sunday mornings and they come in very well around here. So if you've got a radio station, change your city of license and then you can carry Casey shows In other words: This confirms there is an existing market exclusivity for Casey Kasem programmes. Something wich we don't have for Classic AT40 in the 80s, wich multiples the number of total affiliates back in the old days. Actually, it doesn't confirm that, it's still just speculation if there's no official source. And you're incorrect about classic AT40 in the 80's. Rob's book talks about how when ABC took over, they would force stations to carry their other network programming or threaten to yank AT40 and give it to a competitor. Only one station per market could carry AT40, that's why in its heyday, stations fought over it, and it could be used as leverage that way. |
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Post by Topay on Mar 24, 2007 10:09:29 GMT -5
I'm kinda leaning toward the exclusivity rule. Casey was 'missing' from DC from '92 till somewhere around the new millenium. I'm not sure exactly when WASH fm picked up (what is NOW called) AT-10 but I know that WASH allso aired the flashback series. Casey's HOT-AC show has never been aired on a DC station, & once Ryan took over, AT40 returned to dc. However, there are 'other' stations which are officially in smaller markets but still get Arbitron ratings in DC which carry AT20. Everyone basically once a piece of the DC Advertising dollar so the fringe markets re-position their towers, boost their signals, etc. to reach the dc area. There are 2 stations, WINC in Winchester VA & WBQB in Fredricksburg VA, which both air AT20 on Sunday mornings and they come in very well around here. So if you've got a radio station, change your city of license and then you can carry Casey shows WINC and WBQB are both good stations IMO. They're also owned by the same company. And they both treat AT20 with due respect (starting on time, getting the right show, promoting it throughout the week). They skimp on the Optional Extras a lot of the time, but I can live with that. |
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Post by BrettVW on Apr 1, 2007 8:20:58 GMT -5
Our oldies station here in Meadville airs AT40: The 70's on Saturday mornings from 7-10am. I actually just stumbled upon it in the car yesterday, I don't know when they started. But they are not affiliated at all with our station. I do not know if they had to get clearance from us since we run AT20 or not.
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