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Post by 80sat40fan on Jun 3, 2023 20:03:27 GMT -5
Today, I heard the single version of "Smooth Operator" by Sade (#5 song from '85) where the sax instrumental was featured after the second verse and in the middle of the second refrain/chorus. In the album version, the instrumental is featured after the first refrain/chorus but before the second verse begins. This single version is the same version that my then local Top 40 station, KHTR/St. Louis, featured: * Single version of "Smooth Operator": www.youtube.com/watch?v=adveYT3xlFI* Album version of "Smooth Operator": www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ_GNl667YE(Note: The spoken word intro from the album version gets deleted in the single version, plus the single is remixed from the original album version). The single version of "Tell Me Something Good" by Rufus (#3 song from '74) features the third verse of the song first (with bonus guitar), then chorus, then the second verse, then the chorus, then the chorus repeats and fades. The first verse of the album version gets deleted. * Single version of "Tell Me Something Good" by Rufus: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWAXaJvevqw* Album version of "Tell Me Something Good" by Rufus: www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB4JDJiet5MMany singles had a verse and/or chorus and/or instrumental section cut or shortened for single release... but how many Top 40 songs had their song structure rearranged for single release? These two examples obviously worked as they helped propel these artists' first Top 40 songs into the Top 5.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jun 4, 2023 8:07:33 GMT -5
Great thread, 80sat40fan! While this song itself was shortened from its album version, one I remember having its parts rearranged for a single version was Technotronic's 1990 hit, "Get Up (Before The Night Is Over)". I had "re-created" the single version that I remember back in 2008 using an audio editor, as I couldn't find the single release back then. I had to rearrange verses and choruses, based on my recollection. The 7" Edit has a very obvious edit after the second chorus, which can be heard throughout its chart run on Casey's Top 40. (Unsure about AT40; I'd have to listen to the shows.) The 7" Edit was used on CT40, while the Single Mix is about 21 seconds longer than the 7", but both considerably shorter than the album version. I still can't find the Single Mix on video anywhere. The ones that I came across tagged as the Single Mix are really the 7" Edit, which is the version used on CT40. That's not quite the version I remember. ETA: It debuted on AT40 on 2/17/1990 (with Donny Osmond guest-hosting), and like CT40, the 7" Edit was also used.
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Post by Hervard on Jun 4, 2023 10:41:00 GMT -5
I do remember that "She Blinded Me With Science", from spring, 1983, was different on the single version than on the album version. Thankfully, AT40 always went with the latter. Album: www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSx_xK9-CJUSingle: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-be2Txz9WoThis was also an unusual case in which the single version was longer than on the album (which is probably the reason why AT40 never played the single). Later on in 1983, the Canadian band Men Without Hats charted with "The Safety Dance". The album version was very different from the single, the latter of which was nearly two minutes shorter (which, again, would be why AT40 played that one - so they wouldn't have to edit as many songs). Album: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nft1OVNLM7ASingle: www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5l0IE8U4T8
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Post by LC on Jun 4, 2023 15:32:03 GMT -5
Both Whitesnake's "Here I Go Again" and Eddie Money's "Two Tickets to Paradise" were completely rerecorded for their single releases. The album versions are what is played on radio nowadays.
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Post by seminolefan on Jun 4, 2023 17:15:11 GMT -5
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Post by mstgator on Jun 4, 2023 21:50:40 GMT -5
I believe the single version of Asia's "Only Time Will Tell" was an out-of-sequence edit of the LP. I think Leo Sayer's "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing" also had some pieces moved around at the end (rather than just a standard edit).
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Post by djjoe1960 on Jun 5, 2023 2:22:15 GMT -5
I recall buying, the single version of Theme from S.W.A.T. by Rhythm Heritage (#1/1976) and noting it was about one minute longer than what I found on the L.P., which I bought at a discount store many years later. Never knew where the extra instrumental parts originated from.
One other interesting note is I bought a C.D. with the song on it in the 1990's and found a shorter version (perhaps a radio edit) that was about 30 seconds shorter than the L.P. version.
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Post by trekkielo on Jun 5, 2023 10:27:25 GMT -5
"No One Is to Blame" by Howard Jones. The song, in its original version, can be found on his second studio album, Dream into Action, which was released in 1985. Following the success of the previous singles taken from the album, the original track for "No One Is to Blame" was re-recorded to give the song a more radio-friendly sound. Phil Collins and Hugh Padgham produced the re-recording, with Collins adding his own drum work and mood. This new version of the song was included on the 1986 US EP Action Replay as well as the CD version of Jones' 1986 studio album, One to One.
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Post by matt on Jun 5, 2023 11:24:42 GMT -5
"No One Is to Blame" by Howard Jones. The song, in its original version, can be found on his second studio album, Dream into Action, which was released in 1985. Following the success of the previous singles taken from the album, the original track for "No One Is to Blame" was re-recorded to give the song a more radio-friendly sound. Phil Collins and Hugh Padgham produced the re-recording, with Collins adding his own drum work and mood. This new version of the song was included on the 1986 US EP Action Replay as well as the CD version of Jones' 1986 studio album, One to One. I remember buying the cassette for Dream Into Action sometime after "No One Is To Blame" had its chart run and being disappointed that the original LP version wasn't what was played on the radio. Ended up getting the Action Replay EP, which wasn't all bad. A few others that come to mind: Hall & Oates "Possession Obsession" -- the album version didn't have the saxophone riffs and a few other bits and pieces that the single had. Jody Watley "Don't You Want Me" -- not sure if it was the album version or just the original single, but the remixed single version that ended up getting played the vast majority of the time on the radio (and every week of its run on AT40 other than maybe the week it debuted) was a much better version. Wang Chung "Hypnotize Me" -- the LP version was shorter and didn't have a 3rd verse that was added for the single version that ended up also being on the Innerspace soundtrack. Duran Duran "The Reflex" -- Another hit where the LP version was played on the first week or two of its run on AT40. The remixed single version ended up winning out for most spins on radio and on AT40 (and was also the version that was included in the video). George Michael "Monkey" -- Both the LP version and the single version of this song were really good, but it was the single version (the Shep Pettibone remix or something like that?) that was played a ton on radio and was also the version in the video. EDIT: Sitting in the waiting room at the car shop and Alanis Morissette's "You Oughta Know" is on -- another song with a different (and much better) arrangement for the single version than the album version.
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Post by listenerwants2know on Jun 5, 2023 12:07:28 GMT -5
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Post by rgmike on Jun 5, 2023 12:09:15 GMT -5
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Post by lasvegaskid on Jun 5, 2023 12:34:25 GMT -5
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Post by 80sat40fan on Jun 5, 2023 18:12:06 GMT -5
I think we have two different definitions of "rearranged" going on. I was asking about songs that had a verse, chorus or instrumental shifted to another part of the song for its single release. Having said that, some of the songs you have mentioned have a different arrangement that their initial album release... so I guess we'll allow both versions of "rearranged" in this thread . matt ... Was the version of "Monkey" you were thinking of remixed by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis? Taking the other definition of rearranged... I much prefer the single version of "Legs" by ZZTop over their album version. I think the album version was played once on AT40 while it was at #10... Full length single/remixed version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUDcTLaWJuoAlbum version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kELhHQ4sC_Y
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Post by djjoe1960 on Jun 7, 2023 6:11:54 GMT -5
The single version of Love Is Like Oxygen creates a totally different ending of the song from the LP version--although it is generally the same as what is heard earlier in the song.
I totally enjoyed both.
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Post by Hervard on Jun 7, 2023 14:01:54 GMT -5
The single version of Love Is Like Oxygen creates a totally different ending of the song from the LP version--although it is generally the same as what is heard earlier in the song. I totally enjoyed both. Same goes with "When Doves Cry" by Prince. The single version plays the chorus melody to fade while the version on the soundtrack keeps on playing with an ad lib over the chorus melody and, at about the five minute mark, there is a synth solo that takes it to the end of the song.
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