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Post by chrislc on Jun 25, 2022 12:42:40 GMT -5
Sooner Or Later by the Grass Roots had "lookin' for love in all the wrong places".
This was duplicated in, ummmm, what was it?, oh yeah, Lookin' For Love by Johnny Lee, nine years later.
So that's eight words. Are there longer examples of this in the 1970-88 Era? With different songs, of course.
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Post by giannirubino on Jun 26, 2022 11:56:59 GMT -5
Immediately I thought of Ray Parker Jr. singing "Every breath you take, I'll be watching you" on "I Still Can't Get Over Loving You." Right before the long outro of EBYT by The Police, those eight words are indeed strung together.
There was a thread about rhyming charms and arms ... and I bet somewhere in there are some other candidates. Must go peek.
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Post by rgmike on Jun 26, 2022 14:21:17 GMT -5
Immediately I thought of Ray Parker Jr. singing "Every breath you take, I'll be watching you" on "I Still Can't Get Over Loving You." Right before the long outro of EBYT by The Police, those eight words are indeed strung together. There was a thread about rhyming charms and arms ... and I bet somewhere in there are some other candidates. Must go peek. The Ray Parker song cribs from the Police's hit musically as well as lyrically. Amazing Sting didn't sue the guy who was also sued by Huey Lewis around the same time  |
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Post by UnknownEric on Jun 27, 2022 11:07:12 GMT -5
It doesn't fit timeline-wise, nor was the original a Top 40 hit, but Hootie and the Blowfish repeated an entire verse from Bob Dylan's "Idiot Wind" in their 1995(?) hit "I Only Wanna Be With You."
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Post by chrislc on Jun 27, 2022 17:09:38 GMT -5
Immediately I thought of Ray Parker Jr. singing "Every breath you take, I'll be watching you" on "I Still Can't Get Over Loving You." Right before the long outro of EBYT by The Police, those eight words are indeed strung together. There was a thread about rhyming charms and arms ... and I bet somewhere in there are some other candidates. Must go peek. The Ray Parker song cribs from the Police's hit musically as well as lyrically. Amazing Sting didn't sue the guy who was also sued by Huey Lewis around the same time He even stole his name from his father. |
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Post by mkarns on Jun 27, 2022 17:23:50 GMT -5
Immediately I thought of Ray Parker Jr. singing "Every breath you take, I'll be watching you" on "I Still Can't Get Over Loving You." Right before the long outro of EBYT by The Police, those eight words are indeed strung together. There was a thread about rhyming charms and arms ... and I bet somewhere in there are some other candidates. Must go peek. The Ray Parker song cribs from the Police's hit musically as well as lyrically. Amazing Sting didn't sue the guy who was also sued by Huey Lewis around the same time And at least conceptually "The Other Woman" is said to have been inspired by--or stolen from?--"Jessie's Girl". If he were releasing those songs today then he might have found himself with more legal hassles, as lately it seems that almost anything that someone thinks is similar to a previous composition has a good chance of ending up in court. However, Ray also could recycle his own hits: "A Woman Needs Love" brings back both the characters from "Jack and Jill" and the riff from "You Can't Change That". |
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Post by chrislc on Jun 27, 2022 17:44:25 GMT -5
The Ray Parker song cribs from the Police's hit musically as well as lyrically. Amazing Sting didn't sue the guy who was also sued by Huey Lewis around the same time And at least conceptually "The Other Woman" is said to have been inspired by--or stolen from?--"Jessie's Girl". If he were releasing those songs today then he might have found himself with more legal hassles, as lately it seems that almost anything that someone thinks is similar to a previous composition has a good chance of ending up in court. However, Ray also could recycle his own hits: "A Woman Needs Love" brings back both the characters from "Jack and Jill" and the riff from "You Can't Change That". Plus I recently heard the beginning of That Old Song and was surprised I never before realized how it matches the beginning of Believe It Or Not by Joey Scarbury. The LP came out about the same time as the TV show, but maybe he got an early listen to the Scarbury song before that. |
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Post by mkarns on Jun 27, 2022 17:55:31 GMT -5
One that comes close, at seven words: Paul Anka's "I Don't Like to Sleep Alone" (1975), says "help me make it through the night", which is the title of a Kris Kristofferson composition that earlier (1971-72) was a hit for both Sammi Smith and Gladys Knight & the Pips.
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Jun 28, 2022 6:13:21 GMT -5
The Ray Parker song cribs from the Police's hit musically as well as lyrically. Amazing Sting didn't sue the guy who was also sued by Huey Lewis around the same time And at least conceptually "The Other Woman" is said to have been inspired by--or stolen from?--"Jessie's Girl". If he were releasing those songs today then he might have found himself with more legal hassles, as lately it seems that almost anything that someone thinks is similar to a previous composition has a good chance of ending up in court. However, Ray also could recycle his own hits: "A Woman Needs Love" brings back both the characters from "Jack and Jill" and the riff from "You Can't Change That". That riff from "You Can't Change That" was also used in New Edition's "Mr. Telephone Man". I can see why Ray Parker, Jr. eventually quit his recording career - it may have been due to the U.S. Government becoming stricter with regarding copyright infringement and he likely feared lawsuits from other recording artists regarding using lyrics from other recording artists. I think the key reason why Sting never sued Ray Parker, Jr. was because Sting was (and still is) from England, or maybe it was because Ray Parker, Jr. refused to clear his music for airplay in England out of fear of a lawsuit. Didn't Ray Parker Jr. have a duet with Glenn Medeiros later in 1990, and I wonder if Ray copied lyrics from other recording artists in that song he sang a duet with Medeiros. |
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Post by Hervard on Jun 29, 2022 17:52:50 GMT -5
And at least conceptually "The Other Woman" is said to have been inspired by--or stolen from?--"Jessie's Girl". If he were releasing those songs today then he might have found himself with more legal hassles, as lately it seems that almost anything that someone thinks is similar to a previous composition has a good chance of ending up in court. However, Ray also could recycle his own hits: "A Woman Needs Love" brings back both the characters from "Jack and Jill" and the riff from "You Can't Change That". That riff from "You Can't Change That" was also used in New Edition's "Mr. Telephone Man". Which, of course, Parker wrote and produced. |
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Post by mkarns on Jun 29, 2022 18:11:33 GMT -5
Didn't Ray Parker Jr. have a duet with Glenn Medeiros later in 1990, and I wonder if Ray copied lyrics from other recording artists in that song he sang a duet with Medeiros. Glenn and Ray reached #32 in 1990 with "All I'm Missing Is You". Ray co-wrote the song but I don't recall it directly recycling any lyrics or otherwise sounding clearly like any previous hit. |
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Post by JMW on Jun 29, 2022 18:35:37 GMT -5
Immediately I thought of Ray Parker Jr. singing "Every breath you take, I'll be watching you" on "I Still Can't Get Over Loving You." Right before the long outro of EBYT by The Police, those eight words are indeed strung together. There was a thread about rhyming charms and arms ... and I bet somewhere in there are some other candidates. Must go peek. (It's one of the threads I created, so I was able to find it right away.) |
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Post by chrislc on Jun 30, 2022 20:35:09 GMT -5
One that comes close, at seven words: Paul Anka's "I Don't Like to Sleep Alone" (1975), says "help me make it through the night", which is the title of a Kris Kristofferson composition that earlier (1971-72) was a hit for both Sammi Smith and Gladys Knight & the Pips. I thought we might have a new leader with nine words - I thought Paul might have followed those seven words as Sammi and Gladys did with "I don't" but Paul followed the seven words with "loneliness". Oh well. Ray and the Police and Johnny and the Grass Roots still have the lead. |
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