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Post by jjlovetrainat40 on Oct 10, 2019 2:55:42 GMT -5
do You think they will see the light of day again?
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Post by Hervard on Oct 10, 2019 12:18:00 GMT -5
do You think they will see the light of day again? This has been discussed here many times over, and the answer has always been no. |
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Post by albe on Oct 10, 2019 18:07:32 GMT -5
do You think they will see the light of day again? This has been discussed here many times over, and the answer has always been no. Ouch!!  |
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Post by 80sat40fan on Oct 10, 2019 19:55:17 GMT -5
do You think they will see the light of day again? This has been discussed here many times over, and the answer has always been no. This was a little unnecessary for someone with 5,000+ posts to essentially attack someone who asks a legitimate question. It was only jjlovetrainat40 's 9th post ever and his first time in two years posting something. Give the guy a break! If Shadoe's shows lasted longer into the 90s than they did, I could maybe see them being aired. Also, if there wasn't such a wide mix of songs featured on the charts then, they maybe would have a better chance of being featured. I listen to an occasional Top 40 countdown played on Sirius/XM's 90s On 9 station, and it's hard for me to sometimes get into hearing Salt-N-Pepa followed by Gin Blossoms followed by Toni Braxton followed by Ace Of Base. Every once in awhile, it would be fun to hear. Every week... not so... and this is from the guy who picks the Lost 90s Classic every week here. That's just my take. |
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Post by mga707 on Oct 10, 2019 20:14:57 GMT -5
Also, if there wasn't such a wide mix of songs featured on the charts then, they maybe would have a better chance of being featured. I listen to an occasional Top 40 countdown played on Sirius/XM's 90s On 9 station, and it's hard for me to sometimes get into hearing Salt-N-Pepa followed by Gin Blossoms followed by Toni Braxton followed by Ace Of Base. Every once in awhile, it would be fun to hear. Every week... not so... and this is from the guy who picks the Lost 90s Classic every week here. That's just my take. Personally, variety like that is what I love. I'd say the first five records on this week's '77 show have your example beat: Judy Collins>Ted Nugent (now THERE's a 'Snuggles' segue for ya!)>George Benson>Foghat>Linda Ronstadt! (Note; I wrote this BEFORE I saw your eerily similar post in the 'Studies In Contrast' thread. Good to see I wasn't the only one amused by the 'clash of genres'!) |
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Post by djjoe1960 on Oct 11, 2019 6:36:56 GMT -5
Y'know it's only on a countdown show where you can get away with the musical diversity that you guys hint at--otherwise you would run regular listeners off by playing many of the songs in the order you mention--no matter what decade.  |
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Post by 80sat40fan on Oct 11, 2019 7:19:44 GMT -5
I need to clarify that I like variety... it's just a different type of variety in the 90s that can sometimes feel odd. In addition, there are some 90s songs that I can turn off in less than a second (like "Tootsie Roll"). Some rap and hip-hop songs from the 90s haven't worn well since they fell from the charts.
I didn't mention this either... had AT40 gone with the Hot 100 chart with the switch to Soundscan in late '91, odds may be slightly better that the shows could air again. But since AT40 didn't use the Hot 100 charts starting in late '91 and instead used the Airplay Monitor chart (among others), it could cause confusion for listeners now.
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Post by Hervard on Oct 11, 2019 9:23:40 GMT -5
My comment was not meant as an attack - it was merely a reply to the question presented, though I can see how it would be interpreted as being hostile and I apologize for that. Sometimes, I just get a little too wordy in my replies. I guess "no" or "not likely" would have sufficed. As 80sat40fan said, the show might have had more of a chance had it lasted a little longer than it did instead of just half of the 90s. As for Casey's Top 40 - forget it. Actually, that might have been what I was thinking of as the show that has been discussed as to whether or not it would be ever be featured, which is too bad, because that show DID last most of the 1990s. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 11:08:27 GMT -5
I didn’t take it as he was attacking anyone, just pointing out it’s been discussed multiple times. Regardless, the answer is the same: No.
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Post by matt on Oct 11, 2019 11:33:02 GMT -5
^agree with what paul said, and also understand Hervard's position as sometimes I've posted things that probably came across with more of an edge than I meant. Hervard's initial comments were pretty much spot on. The market clearly does not have enough of a demand to be worth resurrecting and offering up the Shadoe AT40 shows in syndication, and for probably a few different reasons, which have been discussed several times over on the boards. Most of us that are classic AT40 enthusiasts would love to see those shows made available again, but the average listener doesn't care enough about them to tune in. And if it hasn't happened by now, it probably ain't gonna happen...
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Post by mkarns on Oct 11, 2019 13:02:43 GMT -5
I need to clarify that I like variety... it's just a different type of variety in the 90s that can sometimes feel odd. In addition, there are some 90s songs that I can turn off in less than a second (like "Tootsie Roll"). Some rap and hip-hop songs from the 90s haven't worn well since they fell from the charts. I didn't mention this either... had AT40 gone with the Hot 100 chart with the switch to Soundscan in late '91, odds may be slightly better that the shows could air again. But since AT40 didn't use the Hot 100 charts starting in late '91 and instead used the Airplay Monitor chart (among others), it could cause confusion for listeners now. Not sure if staying with the Hot 100 would have kept the show on longer or made it more salable now. Actually, for the first couple of years after the late 1991 changes the Hot 100 wasn't too far off from what people were hearing on radio and elsewhere, but by the middle of the decade (when AT40 ended for several years) many of the most widely heard songs weren't charting on it or, if they were, not commensurate with their play at pop stations that would have been playing the countdown. By contrast, a lot of high charting Hot 100 singles weren't being played much at pop radio and wouldn't have been familiar to many listeners even then, let alone recurrently 25 or so years later. |
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Post by slf on Oct 12, 2019 4:34:30 GMT -5
What are the chances that Sirius XM would obtain the rights to the Shadow-era shows? They maintain hundreds of satellite channels covering every format imaginable. There's got to be room on one of those channels for these shows. Maybe even on the 90's on 9 channel. Even playing the late '80's shows on that channel wouldn't be that much of a bending of the format.
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Post by BrettVW on Oct 12, 2019 13:03:45 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2019 15:05:33 GMT -5
What are the chances that Sirius XM would obtain the rights to the Shadow-era shows? They maintain hundreds of satellite channels covering every format imaginable. There's got to be room on one of those channels for these shows. Maybe even on the 90's on 9 channel. Even playing the late '80's shows on that channel wouldn't be that much of a bending of the format. They didn’t keep Rick Dees’s shows from the 90s on there which covered the entire decade. So, again the answer is still no. |
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Post by matt on Oct 15, 2019 11:33:19 GMT -5
I need to clarify that I like variety... it's just a different type of variety in the 90s that can sometimes feel odd. In addition, there are some 90s songs that I can turn off in less than a second (like "Tootsie Roll"). Some rap and hip-hop songs from the 90s haven't worn well since they fell from the charts. I didn't mention this either... had AT40 gone with the Hot 100 chart with the switch to Soundscan in late '91, odds may be slightly better that the shows could air again. But since AT40 didn't use the Hot 100 charts starting in late '91 and instead used the Airplay Monitor chart (among others), it could cause confusion for listeners now. Not sure if staying with the Hot 100 would have kept the show on longer or made it more salable now. Actually, for the first couple of years after the late 1991 changes the Hot 100 wasn't too far off from what people were hearing on radio and elsewhere, but by the middle of the decade (when AT40 ended for several years) many of the most widely heard songs weren't charting on it or, if they were, not commensurate with their play at pop stations that would have been playing the countdown. By contrast, a lot of high charting Hot 100 singles weren't being played much at pop radio and wouldn't have been familiar to many listeners even then, let alone recurrently 25 or so years later. Agree with this 1000% -- IMHO sticking with the Hot 100 would've likely sunk the ship even faster than it already did. If you want to know what a countdown of these songs using Soundscan era Hot 100 charts would've sounded like, tune into Julie Brown's "Back In the Day Replay" on SXM 90's on 9, and listen to any countdown from 1992 on. At least half the songs on the mid-late 90's shows are obscure rap/hip hop songs that charted high on the Hot 100 almost entirely on sales, and probably got next to nothing in the way of radio airplay (and are therefore unrecognizable by most of today's CHR audience). The switch to airplay-only based charts was the only way countdown shows survived through the 90's and beyond. What are the chances that Sirius XM would obtain the rights to the Shadow-era shows? They maintain hundreds of satellite channels covering every format imaginable. There's got to be room on one of those channels for these shows. Maybe even on the 90's on 9 channel. Even playing the late '80's shows on that channel wouldn't be that much of a bending of the format. Presumably SXM does not see the Shadoe shows as a worthwhile venture or they likely would've started airing them a long time ago. Those shows just aren't marketable to enough of the current listening audience. |
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