|
Post by jgve1952 on Aug 26, 2018 20:24:32 GMT -5
Since Joe has featured Cashbox Countdowns, I decided to see how the Number 1 records on Cashbox compared with Billboard (BB). I found several differences, and I used songs that reached # 5 or lower on the BB chart that were #1 records on Cashbox. Here are the ones that I discovered, but please feel free to identify any others I may have missed. If this topic was previously covered, I do apologize for repeating.
Here's the ones I found: Cashbox # 1: BB highest position: 1965 A Taste of Honey 7 1971 Doesn't Somebody Want To Be Wanted 6 1980 Master Blaster Jammin' 5 1981 Elvira 5 Just found it interesting that the above 4 songs were #1 on Cashbox but didn't reach the Top 4 on BB!
Jeff
|
|
|
Post by doofus67 on Aug 26, 2018 23:13:40 GMT -5
Since Joe has featured Cashbox Countdowns, I decided to see how the Number 1 records on Cashbox compared with Billboard (BB). I found several differences, and I used songs that reached # 5 or lower on the BB chart that were #1 records on Cashbox. Here are the ones that I discovered, but please feel free to identify any others I may have missed. If this topic was previously covered, I do apologize for repeating. Here's the ones I found: Cashbox # 1: BB highest position: 1965 A Taste of Honey 7 1971 Doesn't Somebody Want To Be Wanted 6 1980 Master Blaster Jammin' 5 1981 Elvira 5 Just found it interesting that the above 4 songs were #1 on Cashbox but didn't reach the Top 4 on BB! Jeff There are many more. This is a "Mr. Music" column from about six months ago: www.jerryosborne.com/2-12-18.htm
|
|
|
Post by djjoe1960 on Aug 27, 2018 6:50:09 GMT -5
Here is a another list comparing Cash Box #1's to Billboard's #1's. top40weekly.com/the-difference-between-cashbox-billboard-1-singles/I always felt the Billboard charts were the most accurate (since I grew up listening to AT40 in the '70's) and only really became aware of the Cash Box charts in the 1980's when Dick Clark began to use them on the National Music Survey; I always wondered why they dropped the Cash Box charts for Radio & Records in 1983. The other thing I noticed about the Cash Box charts is that a few groups seemed to do better on their charts (as opposed to the Billboards charts): Herman's Hermits, Dave Clark 5 and most notably--Stevie Wonder. Of course, the ultimate #1 in Cash Box was The Letter by Wayne Newton; a song that reached the top spot in December of 1992--that never even charted on the Billboard Hot 100. Although the main reason I used their charts is that in the 1960's, the majority of the Top 10's were 85-90% the same in both Billboard & Cash Box.
|
|
|
Post by johnnywest on Aug 27, 2018 8:44:10 GMT -5
Since Joe has featured Cashbox Countdowns, I decided to see how the Number 1 records on Cashbox compared with Billboard (BB). I found several differences, and I used songs that reached # 5 or lower on the BB chart that were #1 records on Cashbox. Here are the ones that I discovered, but please feel free to identify any others I may have missed. If this topic was previously covered, I do apologize for repeating. Here's the ones I found: Cashbox # 1: BB highest position: 1965 A Taste of Honey 7 1971 Doesn't Somebody Want To Be Wanted 6 1980 Master Blaster Jammin' 5 1981 Elvira 5 Just found it interesting that the above 4 songs were #1 on Cashbox but didn't reach the Top 4 on BB! Jeff What makes "Master Blaster" even more impressive is that it didn't even chart in R&R. I think they were only doing a Top 30 at the time. Still, that's a major difference.
|
|
|
Post by djjoe1960 on Aug 27, 2018 12:53:41 GMT -5
Y'know one thing that really stands out to me about number one's from the 1960's is that there are three songs I really think of solid #1's didn't make it to the top in either Cash Box or Record World. Dock of the Bay by Otis Redding was #1 for 4 weeks in 1968 (Billboard) and the song peaked at #2 for one week (Record World) and #3 for two weeks (Cash Box).
The other songs I think of as solid #1's are both by the Temptations--1965, My Girl, and from 1969, I Can't Get Next To You. My Girl peaked at #2 for two weeks (Cash Box) and #3 for three weeks (Record World). I Can't Get Next To You reached #2 for two weeks (Record World) and #3 for one week (Cash Box).
All of those songs are solid #1's in my brain that it was difficult for me during the countdowns to not mention that they reached the Top of the charts (especially when playing them on year end countdowns).
|
|
|
Post by jgve1952 on Sept 2, 2018 13:55:33 GMT -5
Wow that was very interesting post from Mr. Music. Thanks for sending the link!
|
|
|
Post by woolebull on Sept 3, 2018 7:46:02 GMT -5
Since Joe has featured Cashbox Countdowns, I decided to see how the Number 1 records on Cashbox compared with Billboard (BB). I found several differences, and I used songs that reached # 5 or lower on the BB chart that were #1 records on Cashbox. Here are the ones that I discovered, but please feel free to identify any others I may have missed. If this topic was previously covered, I do apologize for repeating. Here's the ones I found: Cashbox # 1: BB highest position: 1965 A Taste of Honey 7 1971 Doesn't Somebody Want To Be Wanted 6 1980 Master Blaster Jammin' 5 1981 Elvira 5 Just found it interesting that the above 4 songs were #1 on Cashbox but didn't reach the Top 4 on BB! Jeff What makes "Master Blaster" even more impressive is that it didn't even chart in R&R. I think they were only doing a Top 30 at the time. Still, that's a major difference. How neat it would've been to hear "Master Blaster" at the top of "Dick Clark's NMS" if the show had started just a few month earlier!
|
|
|
Post by djjoe1960 on Sept 4, 2018 12:14:24 GMT -5
What makes "Master Blaster" even more impressive is that it didn't even chart in R&R. I think they were only doing a Top 30 at the time. Still, that's a major difference. How neat it would've been to hear "Master Blaster" at the top of "Dick Clark's NMS" if the show had started just a few month earlier! Y'know that Stevie Wonder song (Master Blaster) reached #1 on Cash Box (for 2 weeks in December, 1980), made it to #5 in Billboard (3 weeks in December, 1980) and peaked at #15 in Record World (last week of November)--and has been mentioned never made the Top 30 in R & R. Does anybody know the song's peak position on the Weekly Top 30? By the way, I did do a countdown from December 1980--but never have posted (yet).
|
|