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Post by woolebull on Apr 22, 2014 15:59:28 GMT -5
On this date 25 years ago, Deon Estus blasted into the Top 10 at number seven with, "Heaven Help Me". He would jump to position five the next week in only his second week in the Top 10. Pretty impressive!
Even more impressive: the song would be out of the Top 10 the next week, spending a grand total of two weeks in the Top 10.
Besides, "Mr. Jaws" and, "Supernatural Thing" in 1974 and 1975, respectively, did any other song that hit the Top 5 spend less than three weeks in the Top 5 during the 1970-1991 run of American Top 40? Did any songs achieve that feat on Casey's Top 40 or AT 40 from December 1991 forward?
When i noticed that the other day, I was stunned. "Heaven Help Me" seemed like a pretty solid Top 5 song back in the day. I definitely thought it had better legs than it did.
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Post by briguy52748 on Apr 22, 2014 16:36:42 GMT -5
I can't think of a Hot 100 record shorter than "Heaven Help Me"; probably three weeks is the next closest record, with the Napoleon XIV's "They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!" doing so in August 1966. It spent five total weeks in the top 40, three of those in the top 10, with a chart progression of 11-5-3-5-37 within the top 40.
As far as country songs go, the song that reached the top 10 of the Hot Country Singles chart that spent the least amount of time within the chart's top 40 was "I.O.U." by Jimmy Dean. The song peaked at No. 9 in May 1976 during a four week top 40 run, but its reason for its short chart life was totally different than Napoleon XIV … it was a Mother's Day song and probably got substantial airplay for that one week leading up to Mother's Day. "I.O.U." also made the Hot 100, reaching No. 35, peaking there for two weeks on May 22 and 29.
Brian
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Post by woolebull on Apr 22, 2014 19:49:26 GMT -5
I can't think of a Hot 100 record shorter than "Heaven Help Me"; probably three weeks is the next closest record, with the Napoleon XIV's "They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!" doing so in August 1966. It spent five total weeks in the top 40, three of those in the top 10, with a chart progression of 11-5-3-5-37 within the top 40. As far as country songs go, the song that reached the top 10 of the Hot Country Singles chart that spent the least amount of time within the chart's top 40 was " I.O.U." by Jimmy Dean. The song peaked at No. 9 in May 1976 during a four week top 40 run, but its reason for its short chart life was totally different than Napoleon XIV … it was a Mother's Day song and probably got substantial airplay for that one week leading up to Mother's Day. "I.O.U." also made the Hot 100, reaching No. 35, peaking there for two weeks on May 22 and 29. Brian Good stuff on "I.O.U". Totally makes sense...thank you for that! "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" went to number one and only spent three weeks in the Top 10. A couple of other top 5 songs to spend three weeks in the Top 10 are "Beach Baby" by First Class that went to 4 in 1974 and "Heartbeat" by Don Johnson that spent two weeks at 5 and three in the Top 10. I think the highest charting songs in the 1970-1991 era to only spend one week in the Top 10 were "One" by the Bee Gees and "Right On Track" by the Breakfast Club, which each spent one week in the Top 10 at position seven. If anyone knows of any others that tie or break that, let me know.
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Post by bigal on Apr 23, 2014 3:59:00 GMT -5
Didnt SLOW DANCIN SWAYIN TO THE MUSIC by Johnny rivers only spend one week in the top 10?
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Post by woolebull on Apr 23, 2014 6:13:41 GMT -5
Didnt SLOW DANCIN SWAYIN TO THE MUSIC by Johnny rivers only spend one week in the top 10? It did. It spent one week at position number 10.
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Post by dukelightning on Apr 23, 2014 13:30:50 GMT -5
Several songs spent just 1 top 10 week at #10. Are you looking for the highest position that a song spent only 1 week in the top 10 at?
BTW, nice to have you back, woolebull. I thought I would have make a trip down I-40 to make you sure you were ok!
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Post by Hervard on Apr 23, 2014 13:37:59 GMT -5
Sort of reminds me of how "To Be A Lover" by Billy Idol entered the R&R Top Ten at #5, and then fell to #7 the week after. IIRC, that was partially due to vacuum effect.
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Post by woolebull on Apr 23, 2014 16:02:20 GMT -5
Several songs spent just 1 top 10 week at #10. Are you looking for the highest position that a song spent only 1 week in the top 10 at? BTW, nice to have you back, woolebull. I thought I would have make a trip down I-40 to make you sure you were ok! Ha! Thanks! Doing quite well...just took a couple of months off from posting things. I was just answering the question that was asked about "Slow Dancing", but yeah, the questions I am asking are there any other songs that spent only one week in the Top 10 that charted higher than "Right On Track" and "One" at position 7? And did any songs that hit the Top 5 spend any less time in the Top 10 than Deon Estus, Ben E. King, and Dickie Goodman did? By the way, the culprit for "Right On Track" was it was held at 11 for two weeks as no songs the week of 5/23/87 moved out of the Top 10. It then hit the next week at 7, unbulleted. Who knows with "One". The 1989 charts were hard to comprehend as "One" jumped unbulleted from 11 to 7 and then fell to 21. ("Kisses On The Wind" had a similar fate the exact same weeks: the song went from 12-8-24). Of course, I brought up the Estus "Heaven Help Me" free fall that started this question. The 1989 charts are chaos to comprehend. My favorite thing about the 1989 chart is that the second run of "What About Me" spent more weeks in the Hot 100, and did not hit the Top 40, than number one, "Batdance" did.
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Post by woolebull on Apr 23, 2014 16:04:33 GMT -5
Sort of reminds me of how "To Be A Lover" by Billy Idol entered the R&R Top Ten at #5, and then fell to #7 the week after. IIRC, that was partially due to vacuum effect. I just checked that out! That is crazy...and is in the same time frame as at least one of the songs in question here ("Right On Track"). Two different charts with crazy action near the top in 1986/87 for sure. Oh, one more song from that time..."Heartbeat" by Don Johnson hit the top 5 but only spent three weeks in the top 10 (7-5-5) On R and R it's tracking is quite similar (7-6-6).
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Post by jebsib on Apr 23, 2014 17:57:53 GMT -5
Worth noting that in those days, bulletless jumps frequently created artificial peaks.
A song at #7, and then 'rear-ending' with no bullet up to #5 had been dead for at least a week.
So it would be quite common to plummet the following week.
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Post by pointpark04 on Apr 23, 2014 19:24:35 GMT -5
Oh, 1989. What a wacky year.
So in June/July, "This Time I Know It's For Real" by Donna Summer went 14-9-7-7-14, only three weeks in Top 10 territory for a song I though should have been much, much bigger.
Then, just within a few weeks of each other, "I Drove All Night" went 12-8-6-11, only two weeks in the Top 10 for another song I thought should have been much, much bigger.
That literally took me seconds to find. I'm sure 1989 holds several (at least) more such gems. The turnover was so rapid that year, two consecutive charts - August 26 and Sept. 2 - saw current, former, or future number one songs in each of the top four positions. I can't think of the last time that happened. And a few times that summer, five of the top six songs fell into one of those three categories.
Edit: Does anybody know/remember if unbulleted songs hit number one? I know that "The Living Years" by Mike + the Mechanics as well as "Seasons Change" by Expose ended long climbs by hitting the top for one week, then had precipitous plunges down the chart. Were either or both of those unbulleted when they reached the summit?
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Post by mga707 on Apr 23, 2014 19:28:58 GMT -5
Oh, 1989. What a wacky year. So in June/July, "This Time I Know It's For Real" by Donna Summer went 14-9-7-7-14, only three weeks in Top 10 territory for a song I though should have been much, much bigger. I love that song! But I think it would have been bigger even a year earlier. The S/A/W production was becoming outdated by mid-89. A great song and performance by Ms. Summer nonetheless. The 'stacking' of current/past/future #1s occurred with some regularity in late'74/early '75, another era of rapid chart turnover.
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Post by woolebull on Apr 23, 2014 21:45:42 GMT -5
"This Time I Know It's For Real" is one of my favorite songs. Ever. And I agree with mga...it would have been great to hear in 1988. Would have been interesting to see that song around the time, say, "Pink Cadillac" was going up the charts. And to follow up on what jebsib said, "Heaven Help Me" peaked at 5 on R and R...the week before it peaked at 5 on Billboard. The week the unbulleted "Heaven Help Me" hit 5 on BB, it had dropped to 12 on R and R. So, good call on that!
To pointpark, I don't remember a non bulleted song hitting number one. "Seasons Change" regained the bullet the week it went to number one. "Living Years" did not lose the bullet until it dropped from number one. And just to add another crazy 1989 song chart movement: "Love Song" by The Cure peaked at 2 without a bullet. It then went 2-11-22-34-off. Fortunately it held on for one week so the next "Love Song" (Tesla) could be on the chart at the same time with it for one week. Two songs, same title, neither song has the title in the song. Love some 1989!
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Post by renfield75 on Apr 24, 2014 15:55:09 GMT -5
It would be interesting to see what the 1989 Hot 100 would have looked like if Soundscan/BDS had happened a few years earlier. I imagine the majority of that year's bumper crop of chart-toppers would have lost their number one distinction.
Oh, and jebsib! Nice to see you over here from the Pulse boards!
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Post by jebsib on Apr 24, 2014 16:25:52 GMT -5
Hey, renfield. You'll find the folks over here a little less... emotional...
I'd love to start a thread retroactively predicting which songs would have been #1 if the 1980s had used Soundscan and BDS.
pointpark, Hot 100 policy in the 80's was that a song moving to #1 could not be bullet-less. On the occasion that a song without a bullet at #2 reached #1, it would be awarded an honorary bullet. (Off hand, I only recall Whitesnake's "Here I Go Again" being in that position)
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