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Post by woolebull on Jun 11, 2013 16:29:00 GMT -5
What charts did Casey use for historical purpose when "Casey's Top 40" became "American Top 40"? I ask this because I remember an "AT 40" when Natalie Imbruglia went to number one with "Torn", there was a reference to solo Australians hitting number one. Casey referenced Olivia Newton-John hitting number one, including for 10 weeks with "Physical" and Rick Springfield with "Jesse's Girl".
The problem with that, in my opinion, is it cause a very confusing historical reference. At the time, "AT" was using "Radio and Records", which would not eliminate ONJ from being a part of the reference, but it would eliminate "Physical". Springfield would also still be accurate, but "Jesse's Girl" would not be accurate. The stats that Casey was using could have been "Billboard" stats or "American Top 40" stats. If they used just American Top 40 programs in general, what the heck happens to the years 1995 through 1998. That eliminates some huge hits, particularly for Mariah Carey, Dionne Ferris, Jennifer Lewis, etc.
I'm pretty sure by 2000, AT had no problem referencing "Radio and Records" for at least calculating their Top 40 of the 90's because "I Love You Always Forever" and "I Know" were both in the Top 5 for the decade, IIRC. But for things such as "Most hits in a career" type of stats, or "Longest running number one" stats, what does AT 40 now use?
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Post by mkarns on Jun 11, 2013 16:38:35 GMT -5
What charts did Casey use for historical purpose when "Casey's Top 40" became "American Top 40"? I ask this because I remember an "AT 40" when Natalie Imbruglia went to number one with "Torn", there was a reference to solo Australians hitting number one. Casey referenced Olivia Newton-John hitting number one, including for 10 weeks with "Physical" and Rick Springfield with "Jesse's Girl". The problem with that, in my opinion, is it cause a very confusing historical reference. At the time, "AT" was using "Radio and Records", which would not eliminate ONJ from being a part of the reference, but it would eliminate "Physical". Springfield would also still be accurate, but "Jesse's Girl" would not be accurate. The stats that Casey was using could have been "Billboard" stats or "American Top 40" stats. If they used just American Top 40 programs in general, what the heck happens to the years 1995 through 1998. That eliminates some huge hits, particularly for Mariah Carey, Dionne Ferris, Jennifer Lewis, etc. I'm pretty sure by 2000, AT had no problem referencing "Radio and Records" for at least calculating their Top 40 of the 90's because "I Love You Always Forever" and "I Know" were both in the Top 5 for the decade, IIRC. But for things such as "Most hits in a career" type of stats, or "Longest running number one" stats, what does AT 40 now use? Today AT40 uses, as far as I can tell, Billboard for up until fall 1973, when Radio & Records began publication; R&R for 1973-2003, and Mediabase for 2004 on (i.e. what Seacrest actually counted down on air, which is not always the same as the official MB archive statistics.) |
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Post by woolebull on Jun 11, 2013 16:59:41 GMT -5
So, essentially if Ryan answered a question about the biggest song of the 1980's, it would not by "Physical"? Interesting that a show that is American Top 40 does not use a majority of the history of American Top 40. I do understand the reason because, as I mentioned, it would knock out three years completely. I do wonder when they realized the problem of using Billboard stats on the show. I guess sometime between around this time in 1998 and the end of 1999. NOTE: I just checked, and Paul McCartney gets the number one on R and R for "Coming Up", not the Live "and Wings" version...so Paul still has his solo number one  |
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Post by mkarns on Jun 11, 2013 17:05:24 GMT -5
So, essentially if Ryan answered a question about the biggest song of the 1980's, it would not by "Physical"? Interesting that a show that is American Top 40 does not use a majority of the history of American Top 40. I do understand the reason because, as I mentioned, it would knock out three years completely. NOTE: I just checked, and Paul McCartney gets the number one on R and R for "Coming Up", not the Live "and Wings" version...so Paul still has his solo number one Actually, in the 2000s decade end show (aired in January 2010), Ryan said the #1 song of the 1980s was "Every Breath You Take" by the Police. Casey said the same when he counted down the top hits of the 1980s in December 1989. It seems to me that nowadays Casey's Top 40 is considered to be AT40 for 1989-98, at least by Premiere and AT40. Three years ago, on AT40's 40th anniversary show, it was said that AT40 had been on for 40 consecutive years, which could only be accurate if CT40 is counted in that total. |
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Post by woolebull on Jun 11, 2013 17:09:02 GMT -5
Very good information...thank you! I edited my post wondering when the chart historians realized the problem of using "Billboard" stats on the modern AT 40 show. I would guess sometime between around this time in 1998 and the end of 1999.
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