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Post by Hervard on May 1, 2013 21:21:36 GMT -5
I was thinking of posting this in the Rick Dees topic, but decided to give it its own topic so it would be more visible Does anyone remember the date of the first episode of the show? Another question - does anyone remember the date that the tenth anniversary special of the Rick Dees show was published in Billboard Magazine (as well as whether or not it had the start date)? Any info on this would be appreciated  |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2013 3:23:22 GMT -5
It did have the show start date, but I can't remember the week mitnwas printed.
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Post by Shadoe Fan on May 2, 2013 3:24:03 GMT -5
I searched Google books and came up with an ad that said his 10th anniversary special would be in the September 11, 1993 issue of Billboard. Unfortunately, that issue is not in Google books.
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Post by rayshae3 on May 2, 2013 6:54:49 GMT -5
Does anyone remember the date of the first episode of the show? Found out the trademark was first used on September 6, 1983 (see www.markhound.com/trademark/search/Qil7M636D under topic "services and/or goods".) But this doesn’t really say much, other than it excludes the first weekend of September as the starting point of the show. If anybody has any Rick Dees WT40s show from 1983 in its original form, its production number of #nn-nn should give a clue when that very first chartshow date was. (in #nn-nn, the first 2 digits, sometimes 4 digits, are for the year, and the two digits after the hyphen are the program’s sequence number.) So as an example, if say somebody has a program number #83-08, its show date can be traced back to #83-01, or seven weeks earlier (which was the first show’s weekending date.) This being said, the downside is that apparently no collector has ever produced a WT40 show from 1983, not even in the history of the e-bay.  Other than this, maybe Rick has a special around this upcoming September of 2013 to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the show, and with it enough publicity to that first show so we can exactly pinpoint to its debut date…We’ll see. Other clues like the first chart, or even the first number one that was played (which was from the CashBox chart) are also absent from the web. |
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Post by Mike on May 4, 2013 15:01:04 GMT -5
Does anyone remember the date of the first episode of the show? Found out the trademark was first used on September 6, 1983 (see www.markhound.com/trademark/search/Qil7M636D under topic "services and/or goods".) But this doesn’t really say much, other than it excludes the first weekend of September as the starting point of the show. If anybody has any Rick Dees WT40s show from 1983 in its original form, its production number of #nn-nn should give a clue when that very first chartshow date was. (in #nn-nn, the first 2 digits, sometimes 4 digits, are for the year, and the two digits after the hyphen are the program’s sequence number.) So as an example, if say somebody has a program number #83-08, its show date can be traced back to #83-01, or seven weeks earlier (which was the first show’s weekending date.) This being said, the downside is that apparently no collector has ever produced a WT40 show from 1983, not even in the history of the e-bay. Other than this, maybe Rick has a special around this upcoming September of 2013 to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the show, and with it enough publicity to that first show so we can exactly pinpoint to its debut date…We’ll see. Other clues like the first chart, or even the first number one that was played (which was from the CashBox chart) are also absent from the web. Well...if the 10th anniversary was intended for the 9/11/93 issue of Billboard, then that's a strong indicator of the weekend of September 10, 1983 as the start date. No, it's not a guarantee, but that'd make it my first guess. As to the first #1...well, the Dees man matched the magazine's chart date during his time using Cash Box (as opposed to with R&R, when he'd be at least a week off) - which narrows it down to two songs: "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" on 9/10 (also #1 the previous week on AT40/Billboard), or "Puttin' On the Ritz" on 9/17 or 9/24. (And even if it was 9/3, Eurythmics were #1 that week too.) Yes, both Michael Sembello and Billy Joel missed the top completely in Cash Box. (BTW, screw Cash Box for randomly deciding to change around their website.  Luckily I elected to type up my own list of their 1980s #1 songs some time back.) |
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Post by rayshae3 on May 4, 2013 16:10:13 GMT -5
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Post by frente on May 11, 2013 19:00:24 GMT -5
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Post by saltrek on May 11, 2013 19:44:59 GMT -5
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Post by frente on May 12, 2013 20:20:41 GMT -5
It seems fake to me. Or a total FIX. |
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Post by mstgator on May 13, 2013 19:17:21 GMT -5
It seems fake to me. Or a total FIX. Welcome to the wonderfully wacky world of CashBox (their charts got extremely sketchy toward the end). |
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Post by rayshae3 on Jun 6, 2013 16:23:29 GMT -5
I have a question of my own about Rick Dees’ WT40 I always wanted to know. When was the first episode (exact weekending date) he switched from CashBox chart to using R&R chart? I have a vague idea it was around early 1985, but not sure.
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Jun 6, 2013 18:33:58 GMT -5
I have a question of my own about Rick Dees’ WT40 I always wanted to know. When was the first episode (exact weekending date) he switched from CashBox chart to using R&R chart? I have a vague idea it was around early 1985, but not sure. He had done so by the show ending January 26, 1985--that show counted down the top songs "according to Radio and Records Magazine" as noted at the end of the show. |
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Post by rayshae3 on Jun 18, 2013 13:09:32 GMT -5
I have a question of my own about Rick Dees’ WT40 I always wanted to know. When was the first episode (exact weekending date) he switched from CashBox chart to using R&R chart? I have a vague idea it was around early 1985, but not sure. He had done so by the show ending January 26, 1985--that show counted down the top songs "according to Radio and Records Magazine" as noted at the end of the show. Mystery solved! The last regular WT40 show that Rick used the Cashbox chart was for the weekending Dec. 22, 1984 (followed by Top 84 of 1984, over the following two weekends again using CashBox year-end charts.) On Jan-12-1985 broadcast, he turned over to the R&R charts for the first time. But since there was no actual R&R issue published on Jan-4-1985 or Dec-28-1984 (R&R having a break and skipping a couple of issues for the new year ’85 holidays itself), Rick used the regular R&R ranking of Dec-21-84 for the first time then. Thanks to jcaragon for PM of the cue-sheet and the rankings, and Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever for clues before that…appreciated. |
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Post by Hervard on Jun 18, 2013 19:00:03 GMT -5
Did he use the December 15 R&R chart when he mentioned last week positions?
Thanks for that info - I sort of figured it was the first chart of 1985, although I had previously heard that they started using R&R in April, 1985 (when I heard the February, 1985 show that used to be available on Rick's website, I knew that wasn't true).
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Post by rayshae3 on Jun 20, 2013 13:14:27 GMT -5
Did he use the December 15 R&R chart when he mentioned last week positions? The WT40’s previous position on the broadcast date of Jan-12-85 corresponded to positions of CashBox’s Dec-22-85. (Mind you, this “previous” position is not technically “Last week”’s position; there was a CashBox regular chart for weekending Dec-29-85, which was replaced by part 1 of Rick’s year-end special again from CashBox). As an example, when he played #37 (In Neon-Elton John), he said this was a new entry. It was considering his previous regular chartshow of Dec-22-84, but the song was on R&R issues of Dec 21, 1984 as well as Dec.14, 1984 (plus on CB of Dec-29-84). BTW, his stats also included the CashBox data prior to this broadcast; When playing “I Feel for You” by Chaka Khan (at #26) he said it was the former #1 (which was in CB, but not in R&R). What I said, of course excludes his usual goofs and mistakes math-wise; e.g. when playing #34 (Love Light in Flight-Stevie Wonder) he said it was up 3 places, but in reality it was down 3 places. |
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Luckily I elected to type up my own list of their 1980s #1 songs some time back.)
