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Post by davewollenberg on Dec 1, 2018 9:27:05 GMT -5
Well, gang, add WBOW, in Terre Haute, that's flipped to all-Christmas music.
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Post by mellongraig on Dec 1, 2018 17:29:35 GMT -5
December 1st is usually the next go-around of stations flipping and/or adding more Christmas music in. The 24th would be the time when the remaining stations that have yet to flip fully to Christmas music goes full time until after the 25th.
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Post by kani on Dec 15, 2018 14:12:03 GMT -5
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Post by JMW on Dec 15, 2018 14:57:54 GMT -5
WMGN starts their 98 Hours of Christmas Magic on the 21st so next week's shows won't be heard (the Saturday morning 70s repeat on the 29th will likely be this week's 1977 show).
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Post by mga707 on Dec 31, 2018 19:47:46 GMT -5
It's snowing outside, I'm off from work and in the holiday mood. I wanna hear Xmas tunes, but there are none to be found. Couldn't stations have played them through tonight instead of starting in early November? There's a station in my area (KGVY-AM/FM Green Valley/Sahuarita AZ) that has still been mixing them into their regular playlist, a couple per hour, at least through Friday. Sat/Sun they run mainly syndicated programming, and I did not check them today.
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Post by retrodaddy on Dec 31, 2018 20:17:44 GMT -5
It's snowing outside, I'm off from work and in the holiday mood. I wanna hear Xmas tunes, but there are none to be found. Couldn't stations have played them through tonight instead of starting in early November? There are a few good 80s new wave Christmas playlists on Spotify.
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Post by dth1971 on Dec 31, 2018 23:10:31 GMT -5
After WLIT 93.9 FM Chicago ended its all Christmas music at the end of Christmas Day, it went to a RELAXING FAVORITES format.
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Post by matt on Jan 2, 2019 11:59:12 GMT -5
It's snowing outside, I'm off from work and in the holiday mood. I wanna hear Xmas tunes, but there are none to be found. Couldn't stations have played them through tonight instead of starting in early November when I wasn't even thinking about the holidays yet? I don't totally get that...they start playing Xmas music in early November, but most stations that do the holiday flip go right back to regular programming at the stroke of midnight on December 26th. And there's always a handful of stations that when they come back on the air, it's with an entirely different format than they had before.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 12:55:00 GMT -5
It's snowing outside, I'm off from work and in the holiday mood. I wanna hear Xmas tunes, but there are none to be found. Couldn't stations have played them through tonight instead of starting in early November when I wasn't even thinking about the holidays yet? You are the one who’s always promoting SiriusXM. They have at least one holiday music channel available online and through their app all year you could listen to.
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Post by burcjm on Jan 3, 2019 13:06:20 GMT -5
You are the one who’s always promoting SiriusXM. They have at least one holiday music channel available online and through their app all year you could listen to. Nope, no paid SXM subscription, that's why the freebie periods are so appreciated. There's always YouTube.
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Post by BrettVW on Jan 3, 2019 16:29:55 GMT -5
Or the free iHeart app and its many year round Christmas stations. Or TuneIn with its year round station.
And as said time and again - more people want to listen to Christmas music in early or mid November than December 26th. Stations have tried over the years extending it through New Years. It doesn't test well because people don't want to hear it.
In my neighborhood, we had neighbors that had their Christmas trees and lights on by the first weekend of November. Two of those same neighbors had their Christmas tree at the curb by 8pm Christmas night. More followed suit the next day. Secular Christmas begins after Halloween and is over and done with by mid day on December 25th. If money was to be made and ratings were to be had keeping stations on an all Christmas format through January 1, you can be sure they would be doing it.
As for post-Christmas format flips. If you plan to do a flip - why not do it this way? You have a whole new and additional audience for the Christmas music, and those presets are likely to still be on when the car is started on the 26th. Take advantage of the added listeners and try to bring them into a new format. Plus, it can give you some time to prepare for a new format launch if you dump the old format in November and go all Christmas. Most of the time you have to go from one format to another in the span of a legal ID. This gives owners and programmers a longer "buffer" period to have the public forget about the old station and prepare for the launch of a new station.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 23:58:11 GMT -5
I don’t think format changing has to do with additional listenership at that time. I think it is all about the buffer time. You have 2 months that allow you once regular music returns to pretend the previous format didn’t exist to the listening audience and to prepare for the new one. It’s either this, read the phone book, or have the station sound like it has an identity crisis like 98.7 did here. Doing it at Christmas time for stations that air it 24/7 seems the easiest and less jarring thing to do.
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Post by listenerwants2know on Jan 4, 2019 10:08:19 GMT -5
It's snowing outside, I'm off from work and in the holiday mood. I wanna hear Xmas tunes, but there are none to be found. Couldn't stations have played them through tonight instead of starting in early November when I wasn't even thinking about the holidays yet? I would never have thought what a recent onset of winter could also cause in the music charts. Here are all Christmas songs that are currently (1/6/19) represented in the Austrian Charts: #1: Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You #3: Wham ! - Last Christmas #5: Chris Rea - Driving Home For Christmas #8: Pentatonix - Hallelujah #9: Shakin´ Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone #10: John & Yoko - Happy Christmas #13: Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmas Time #14: Melanie Thornton - Wonderful Dream #16: Queen - Thank God It´s Christmas #17: Jose Feliciano - Feliz Navidad #18: Michael Buble - It´s Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas #22: Band Aid - Do They Know It´s Christmas ? #23: Bryan Adams - Christmas Time #30: Brenda Lee - Rockin´ Around The Christmas Tree #31: Coldplay - Christmas Lights #35: Michael Buble - White Christmas #37: Daryl Hall & John Oates - Jingle Bell Rock #39: Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock #46: Andy Williams - It´s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year #48: Sam Smith - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas #49: Britney Spears - My Only Wish #50: Band Aid 30 - Do They Know It´s Christmas ? (2014) #52: Justin Bieber - Mistletoe #53: Meghan Trainor - I´ll Be Home #54: Sia - Santa´s Coming For Us #59: Miley Cyrus & Mark Ronson feat. Sean Ono Lennon - Happy Christmas #63: Gwen Stefani feat. Blake Shelton - You Make It Feel Like Christmas #67: Kylie Minogue - Santa Baby #71: Michael Buble - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town #73: Frank Sinatra - Let It Snow ! Let It Snow ! Let It Snow ! #74: *N Sync - Merry Christmas Happy Holidays #75: Elton John - Step Into Christmas
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Post by matt on Jan 4, 2019 12:27:20 GMT -5
Or the free iHeart app and its many year round Christmas stations. Or TuneIn with its year round station. And as said time and again - more people want to listen to Christmas music in early or mid November than December 26th. Stations have tried over the years extending it through New Years. It doesn't test well because people don't want to hear it. In my neighborhood, we had neighbors that had their Christmas trees and lights on by the first weekend of November. Two of those same neighbors had their Christmas tree at the curb by 8pm Christmas night. More followed suit the next day. Secular Christmas begins after Halloween and is over and done with by mid day on December 25th. If money was to be made and ratings were to be had keeping stations on an all Christmas format through January 1, you can be sure they would be doing it. As for post-Christmas format flips. If you plan to do a flip - why not do it this way? You have a whole new and additional audience for the Christmas music, and those presets are likely to still be on when the car is started on the 26th. Take advantage of the added listeners and try to bring them into a new format. Plus, it can give you some time to prepare for a new format launch if you dump the old format in November and go all Christmas. Most of the time you have to go from one format to another in the span of a legal ID. This gives owners and programmers a longer "buffer" period to have the public forget about the old station and prepare for the launch of a new station. Understood Brett - as with everything business related, it does come down to what's going to make money, which is of course, tied directly to ratings, which is going to drive what stations play. I have no problem with radio stations choosing to drop Xmas programming on December 26th, I'm more surprised at how many people in general build up to the Christmas season as early as the beginning of November, but then drop it like a bad habit the day after Christmas (or even the day of--which seems really weird). It's as if it's treated like some big event, like the Super Bowl or the Olympics, where there's all this build-up to it, but the second it's over, people are done with it and moving on. But as you say, that's probably more the secular view of Christmas. I always feel like the Christmas season lasts through New Year's (after all, don't we refer to it all as "the holidays"?) -- most of the time, between my and my wife's side of the family, we're still doing get-togethers through New Years. Just my own two cents for whatever it's worth...
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Post by mkarns on Jan 4, 2019 12:30:45 GMT -5
It's snowing outside, I'm off from work and in the holiday mood. I wanna hear Xmas tunes, but there are none to be found. Couldn't stations have played them through tonight instead of starting in early November when I wasn't even thinking about the holidays yet? I would never have thought what a recent onset of winter could also cause in the music charts. Here are all Christmas songs that are currently (1/6/19) represented in the Austrian Charts: But no charting "Silent Night" in the country that first gave it to the world?
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