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Post by dukelightning on Apr 25, 2012 17:38:32 GMT -5
Does anyone know why AT40 changed from the Hot 100 Airplay chart to the Mainstream top 40 chart? Not really the basis for that question, but when I heard this countdown and found out that "Two Princes" was the #1 song, I was perplexed. It obviously had several weeks at #1, etc. on the Mainstream chart but on the H1Airplay chart, it only made it to #6. And that's what this song seems like to me, a solid top 10 hit but nothing more. Saying it's the #1 song of the year would be like saying "Do You Believe in Love" or "65 Love Affair" from the last 80s show was the #1 song of 1982. In other words, it doesn't fit. I am assuming the #1 song on the H1Airplay in 1993 was "I Will Always Love You" and that seems like the #1 song of that year or even "Dreamlover" as on CT40.
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Post by mkarns on Apr 25, 2012 17:47:51 GMT -5
I guess they wanted the chart to reflect what was popular at the most representative, "mainstream" top 40 outlets, excluding the ones that leaned heavily in any direction (such as R&B/"rhythmic" or adult contemporary), the inclusion of which enhanced the success of songs that weren't likely to be familiar or liked by a large number of listeners.
Of course, determining what is a "mainstream" station is highly subjective and subject to error; to this day the mainstream CHR/top 40 panels have a number of questionable inclusions.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2012 17:49:03 GMT -5
I don't believe they ever did use the Hot 100 AirPlay chart. There was a Top 40 Radio Monitor chart they used and then it became whatever after that.
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Post by mstgator on Apr 26, 2012 22:15:45 GMT -5
I don't believe they ever did use the Hot 100 AirPlay chart. There was a Top 40 Radio Monitor chart they used and then it became whatever after that. Kinda splitting hairs there... once the Hot 100 switched to Soundscan/BDS on 11/30/91, the Top 40 Radio Monitor was essentially the Hot 100 Airplay chart (although it took until 7/17/93 for the name change to become official).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 8:53:09 GMT -5
I've seen the Hot 100 AirPlay and Hot 100 Sales charts in BB after that date.
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Post by dukelightning on Apr 27, 2012 9:03:34 GMT -5
I have spot checked about 20 songs from 1992 in Joel Whitburn's Pop Singles 1955-1993 book in which he lists the peak position on the Hot 100 Airplay chart and every single one matched the peak on AT40. So either they were using the H1Airplay chart in 1992 and/or the Top 40 Radio Monitor was the same as the H1Airplay chart. BTW, another problem with the change to the Mainstream top 40 chart in 1993 is that you can't look up peak positions in Whitburn's book since he doesn't list that chart's info.
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Post by Josh Joel's Top 40 on Apr 27, 2012 10:56:09 GMT -5
What I do know is that AT40 used the sister publication at the time called Monitor's "Top 40/Mainstream" chart during the first new week in 1993. Thus, the 1993 year-end chart is based on that chart. It was appalling because as a R&B/rhythmic fan I was so excited that I was going to hear Jade's "Don't Walk Away" that week, didn't happen of course. Instead I heard songs like "These Are Days" by 10,000 Maniacs and "I Don't Care" by Shakespear's Sister. The latter, is now one of my favourite songs by the way...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 15:00:37 GMT -5
If it was the same chart then it was the same chart. All I'm saying is I remember seeing Hot 100 Sales, Hot 100 airplay, and Top 40 radio charts of some kind in the magazine at the same time. And I'm pretty sure it was when AT40 was on the air because I had the magazine and wondered why they didn't use the Hit 100 airplay and were using the mainstream top 40 radio chart or whatever it was.
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Apr 27, 2012 15:10:07 GMT -5
^^Yes for a time BB published the Hot 100 Airplay, Hot 100 Sales, and the Top 40/Mainstream & Top 40/Rhythmic charts in the magazine. This was when AT40 was using the Top 40/Mainstream chart.
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Apr 27, 2012 15:18:19 GMT -5
What I do know is that AT40 used the sister publication at the time called Monitor's "Top 40/Mainstream" chart during the first new week in 1993. Thus, the 1993 year-end chart is based on that chart. It was appalling because as a R&B/rhythmic fan I was so excited that I was going to hear Jade's "Don't Walk Away" that week, didn't happen of course Josh, Don't Walk Away WAS played on AT40 and went on to become one of the Top 100 of 1993, peaking at #6 and becoming the #13 song of 1993. After this discussion started, I went back and pulled up all the AT40 peak and week data for the songs in the Top 100 of 1993 along with peak and week data for each song on CT40 as well. I wanted to post the information here but the table I created with the information won't post here.
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Post by frente on Apr 27, 2012 15:34:28 GMT -5
Didn't Don't walk away peak at #5 in the AT40?
A fantastic song if you ask me.
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Post by mstgator on Apr 27, 2012 18:06:22 GMT -5
If it was the same chart then it was the same chart. All I'm saying is I remember seeing Hot 100 Sales, Hot 100 airplay, and Top 40 radio charts of some kind in the magazine at the same time. And I'm pretty sure it was when AT40 was on the air because I had the magazine and wondered why they didn't use the Hit 100 airplay and were using the mainstream top 40 radio chart or whatever it was. Yes... it gets confusing, as the chart named "Top 40 Radio Monitor" was a Top 75 chart (published from 12/08/90 to 7/10/93, after which it was renamed "Hot 100 Airplay"), which AT40 used from 11/30/91 through the end of 1992. This was not the same as the separate Top 40 Mainstream and Rhythmic charts which debuted in late 1992 (AT40 used the Top 40 Mainstream chart beginning with the first show of 1993).
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Post by Josh Joel's Top 40 on Apr 27, 2012 18:19:15 GMT -5
What I do know is that AT40 used the sister publication at the time called Monitor's "Top 40/Mainstream" chart during the first new week in 1993. Thus, the 1993 year-end chart is based on that chart. It was appalling because as a R&B/rhythmic fan I was so excited that I was going to hear Jade's "Don't Walk Away" that week, didn't happen of course Josh, Don't Walk Away WAS played on AT40 and went on to become one of the Top 100 of 1993, peaking at #6 and becoming the #13 song of 1993. After this discussion started, I went back and pulled up all the AT40 peak and week data for the songs in the Top 100 of 1993 along with peak and week data for each song on CT40 as well. I wanted to post the information here but the table I created with the information won't post here. Like it says in the song "Don't misunderstand.." (Very apropos) for what I'm about to say. Yes, I *know* it did eventually make the AT40. I was actually mentioning that I expected to hear that song during that particular week in January because it appeared on the "Hot 100 Airplay" chart but instead AT40 decided to switch to the "Top 40/Mainstream" chart with less rhythmic hits. I remember tuning in to KDWB that Sunday morning in early January. After about six or seven songs I just figured it out - the chart switch y'know.
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