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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Jan 17, 2012 9:31:03 GMT -5
I remember hearing Shadoe mention in early 1991 that Janet Jackson had an 8th song from Rhythm Nation 1814 called "State Of The World" - he mentioned the song got a lot of radio airplay, but was never released as a single, so obviously it never qualified for a spot on the Hot 100 chart.
I didn't pick up the reasoning as to why the song never got released as a single, but was it due to controversial content in the lyrics? Or was it due to overwhelming demand? Or what other reason?
And Shadoe did mention the lyrics in the chorus to that song. Did some of the lyrics explain why the song never got released as a single?
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Post by artsmusic on Jan 17, 2012 10:50:39 GMT -5
The A&M rep who worked that song to our r&b station had told me that they had serviced the song due to many r&B stations not playing Black Cat...that they wanted to do something for r&b radio's support despite many negative reactions to that song.
There were several 12-inch remixes of all those Rhythm Nation singles, attempts to extend the life of the album. We were one of the stations who "jumped ahead" and were playing Love Will Never Do during Black Cat's run, as a result of not liking/wanting to play what we perceived as the inferior r&b-only remixes for it.
This was one of the first releases I remember being intentionally not released on commercial single, which as we discussed at length led to MANY chart issues in the 90s/00s.
The Wikipedia entry says: ""State of the World" was released on radio airplay but not as a commercial single, as A&M executives felt the album would garner high sales if there was a song receiving airplay that was not commercially available"
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Jan 17, 2012 11:51:46 GMT -5
Another reason that BB's rules for the Hot 100 were out of date--Shadoe mentioned "State of the World" would not be released as a single on the 3/08/91 show. At the same time, Casey's Top 40 was playing the song, which was at #12 on its 3/08/91 show. Of course, CT40 and Rick Dees were both using Radio and Records, which was an Airplay only chart, meaning that any song that was being played on radio had a chance to chart whereas BB still required that songs had to be "commercially available as a single"
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Jan 18, 2012 11:28:13 GMT -5
I did download the full March 8, 1991 broadcast this morning, and it did feature Janet's official seventh single "Love Will Never Do Without You", and Shadoe mentioning that they planned on releasing "a historical 8th single" from Rhythm N Nation 1814, and he mentioned that they decided that "State of the World" was not being released as a single. It was said that it may have had to do with the lyrics:
"What is happening to this world we live in
In our home and other lands"
My question is, what is so controversial or questionable about those lines?
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Post by Mike on Jan 18, 2012 13:33:42 GMT -5
^ My guess is that was really just a smokescreen to hide the fact that A&M wanted to keep it for album sales, which artsmusic referred to.
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 18, 2012 16:30:18 GMT -5
bestmusicexpert actually referred to that as the 8th single from the Lp on his Jacksons special and unprecedented at that. Even though it was not officially a single, it is the first time 8 promotional singles have been released from an Lp. And all made the top 10 in one form or another IIRC.
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Jan 18, 2012 17:20:38 GMT -5
bestmusicexpert actually referred to that as the 8th single from the Lp on his Jacksons special and unprecedented at that. Even though it was not officially a single, it is the first time 8 promotional singles have been released from an Lp. And all made the top 10 in one form or another IIRC. Yes, it peaked at #4 on both Rick Dees' countdown and CT40 in the spring of 1991. It's quite sad that it didn't make the Hot 100, let alone not hit the top 40 or top 10. Makes me wonder if Katy Perry is one artist who had at least 8 singles from an album? After all, Katy Perry did score her 6th #1 song on Rick Dees' countdown this past weekend. |
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Jan 18, 2012 18:07:53 GMT -5
Katy has 2 to go. I was referring to chart entries, but as a promo single, that counts for me as well.
P.S. it came in at #58 on my Jacksons Top 100.
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Post by jlthorpe on Jan 19, 2012 8:38:33 GMT -5
I did download the full March 8, 1991 broadcast this morning, and it did feature Janet's official seventh single "Love Will Never Do Without You", and Shadoe mentioning that they planned on releasing "a historical 8th single" from Rhythm N Nation 1814, and he mentioned that they decided that "State of the World" was not being released as a single. It was said that it may have had to do with the lyrics: "What is happening to this world we live in
In our home and other lands"My question is, what is so controversial or questionable about those lines? If it was a lyrics issue, and not just an excuse to boost album sales, then maybe it had to do with the Gulf War being fought around that time. The lyrics may have been seen as too negative. |
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Post by torcan on Jan 19, 2012 12:21:56 GMT -5
There is only one album I know of that had 8 commercial singles released - Michael Jackson's "Dangerous". They were:
Black or White
Remember the Time
In the Closet
Jam
Who is It
Heal the World
Will You Be There
Gone Too Soon
The first 7 charted in the top 40, and the 8th was released in the US on 45 and cassette single but didn't chart. I think it might have charted AC. Too bad it didn't hit the Hot 100 - I thought it was pretty good.
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Post by blackbowl68 on Jan 19, 2012 19:38:33 GMT -5
Uh...wasn't the reason A&M passed on a commercial release because Janet had just a $35 million deal with Virgin? I do remember it being finalized around they started pushing "State Of The World." What would be the point of issuing a single if the artist was busy promoting something else?
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Post by Mike on Jan 20, 2012 15:03:31 GMT -5
^ I don't know if that would've been the sole reason for it, but it certainly could have played a part.
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Post by karaokegod on Jan 20, 2012 17:24:15 GMT -5
There is only one album I know of that had 8 commercial singles released - Michael Jackson's "Dangerous". They were: Black or White Remember the Time In the Closet Jam Who is It Heal the World Will You Be There Gone Too Soon The first 7 charted in the top 40, and the 8th was released in the US on 45 and cassette single but didn't chart. I think it might have charted AC. Too bad it didn't hit the Hot 100 - I thought it was pretty good. You are also forgetting "Give In To Me" which was released after "Heal The World" even though it wasn't released in the US and "Gone Too Soon" never charted on a US chart. |
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