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Post by at40john on Jan 2, 2012 18:44:52 GMT -5
I beleive the most edited song on AT 40 has to be I Made It Through The Rain by Barry Manilow. Of 9 shows it was played on only 2 were the full version. The rest were edited. Also Passion by Rod Stewart was edited a lot during this period. It was played 8 times out of 15 in edited form. These Dreams by Heart was edited a lot in 86. Why were certain songs edited so much. John
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Post by mrjukebox on Jan 2, 2012 18:54:30 GMT -5
It might've been due to time constraints-I remember that back in 1977,"Hotel California" was severely edited.
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Jan 2, 2012 19:09:55 GMT -5
Wouldn't surprise me if Manfred Mann's Earth Band's 1977 song "Blinded By The Light" was also edited on AT40 as well.
I do hear the full album version on my classic rock radio station quite a bit - I seem to completely forget what the edited version sounds like.
Time constraints is likely to blame for all this editing. Might be because there may have been longer songs elsewhere within the hour on AT40 that didn't need to be edited.
Gerry Rafferty's "Baker Street" was also edited, but then again this was before AT40 was expanded to 4 hours. Same for "Blinded By The Light".
It seems as if many album versions of classic rock songs were longer than the versions heard on AT40.
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Jan 2, 2012 19:36:33 GMT -5
How about "Enter Sandman" by Metallica or "One" by Metallica. Those were really shortened at times.
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Post by jgve1952 on Jan 2, 2012 19:38:31 GMT -5
"I Feel Love" by Donna Summer was edited quite a bit in the Fall of 1977.
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Post by bigal on Jan 2, 2012 20:35:02 GMT -5
well first of all, do not confuse the official 45 version as a edited version. in those days, the 45 version was what was widely heard on the radio, as well as what the consumer was buying as the 45 sales were being counted on the Billboard ranking.
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Jan 2, 2012 21:13:12 GMT -5
So true. The 45 version is what is played on AT40 the most.
A prime example being Ashford & Simpson's "Solid", which charted around Christmas 1984 and peaking at #12 early in 1985. I do remember hearing a full unedited version while traveling on board the local public transit in July 2006 (Coast FM in St. John's played smooth R&B and contemporary stuff then, now they play light classic rock, and the bus driver had Coast FM on his radio). The version I heard on shows like BackTrax USA and on the streaming network The 80s Channel in Second Life had Valerie Simpson (the female half of the duo) opening the song "And for loves' sake, each mistake..." a capella, then eventually her now-deceased husband Nick Ashford. Then after "Solid as a rock" was mentioned first in the song, that's when the instruments started playing. If I remember correctly, the full version may have most likely had instruments all throughout the song from beginning to end.
Wouldn't surprise me if AT40 used the version with Valerie Simpson singing a capella to start the song.
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Post by doomsdaymachine on Jan 2, 2012 23:07:24 GMT -5
It doesn't quite count as an edit, but I noticed that AT40 played the 4:27 promo single of "American Pie."
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Post by tarobe on Jan 3, 2012 14:21:18 GMT -5
It doesn't quite count as an edit, but I noticed that AT40 played the 4:27 promo single of "American Pie." That's the way it was played on radio in the early seventies. "American Pie" was played on radio a lot and every time I heard it, it was the promo version, which besides being a different mix (mono), also is an edit with a different take during the first verse. Three times during its run (1/08/72, 1/22/72 and 3/18/72) the full 8:33 version was played. Other times the promo (4:27) or part one of the stock single (4:11) was played.
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Post by doomsdaymachine on Jan 3, 2012 23:55:48 GMT -5
That's the way it was played on radio in the early seventies. "American Pie" was played on radio a lot and every time I heard it, it was the promo version, which besides being a different mix (mono), also is an edit with a different take during the first verse. Three times during its run (1/08/72, 1/22/72 and 3/18/72) the full 8:33 version was played. Other times the promo (4:27) or part one of the stock single (4:11) was played. Honestly, at this late date, I much prefer that promo edit. I've heard the 8:33 version waaaaaaay too many times!
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Jan 4, 2012 5:28:27 GMT -5
Blinded By The Light's single version is sinple. The first time they get to "She's gonna make it to the light" They had jumped to the end of the song during the previous part where 2 people are singing at the same time.
Yesterday I was listening to 4-29-78 and Love Is Like Oxygen by Sweet was edited down to about 1:30.
Also, Joe Jackson's Breaking Us In Two in early 1983 was shortened what seemed like every week the same way. The 45 version was the album version at 4:52 but it was usually only about 3 to 3 and a half minutes each week.
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Post by skuncle on Jan 4, 2012 12:40:47 GMT -5
Very true about the 45rpm versions. In most cases those are the versions I grew up with. On Time/Life's Singers And Songwriters series they used the full album versions. Hearing tracks like "Three Times A Lady" or "Sad Eyes" is weird because they have extra verses that I never heard before. I know the version of Styx's "Come Sail Away" played on AT40 is so hacked up its almost unlistenable, but again that's the single edit. That's a case where I only ever heard the full version not the edit.
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Post by mstgator on Jan 4, 2012 21:45:01 GMT -5
Also, Joe Jackson's Breaking Us In Two in early 1983 was shortened what seemed like every week the same way. The 45 version was the album version at 4:52 but it was usually only about 3 to 3 and a half minutes each week. There was a promo version released to radio that chopped out most of the instrumental bridge (and probably faded earlier) and ran about a minute shorter than the commercial 45 & LP, which is likely what AT40 played.
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Post by vto66 on Jan 4, 2012 22:53:28 GMT -5
Very true about the 45rpm versions. In most cases those are the versions I grew up with. On Time/Life's Singers And Songwriters series they used the full album versions. Hearing tracks like "Three Times A Lady" or "Sad Eyes" is weird because they have extra verses that I never heard before. I know the version of Styx's "Come Sail Away" played on AT40 is so hacked up its almost unlistenable, but again that's the single edit. That's a case where I only ever heard the full version not the edit. The full-length version of "Come Sail Away" may have been played at least once on AT40. I checked the cue sheet for the 2/22/1986 show where it was played as an LDD in memory of the Challenger astronauts and the segment with the LDD was about 12 minutes long.
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Post by bigal on Jan 4, 2012 23:50:14 GMT -5
yes, there were radio edits that were not available as a 45, but top40 statios played them, some off the top of my head are GOLD/John Stewart, UNION MAN/Cates Brothers, INTO THE NIGHT/Benny Madones, ARE YOU READY/Pacific Gas, ALL OUT OF LOVE/Air supply, ONE FINE MORNING/Lighthouse, etc
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