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Post by mga707 on Dec 6, 2015 20:46:35 GMT -5
Why yes, we DID just hear about live recordings hitting #1 two weeks ago! But, methinks that Casey missed one here - in this week's show, he said 5 such #1s, but two weeks ago for 11/28/87 he said "Mony Mony" was the 8th. Now, that and "At This Moment" both come after 1984...so, what's the other missing? Wondering if it's "Peppermint Twist". Pretty sure that Joey Dee and the Starliters recorded their song in a studio. While we're on the subject, though, was "Got To Give It Up" actually live? I know it's from a 'live' LP, but I've heard that the track was recorded 'fake live', a la "Bennie and the Jets".
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Post by Mike on Dec 6, 2015 20:50:32 GMT -5
Pretty sure that Joey Dee and the Starliters recorded their song in a studio. While we're on the subject, though, was "Got To Give It Up" actually live? I know it's from a 'live' LP, but I've heard that the track was recorded 'fake live', a la "Bennie and the Jets". Well, "Peppermint Twist" was counted for the 1987 show. I'd have to catch a 9:00-starting airing to recall the "live" list he gave for this one.
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 6, 2015 20:57:55 GMT -5
Here's the list...."Fingertips", "Thank God I'm a Country Boy", "Got to Give it Up", "Coming Up" and "My Ding-a-ling". Mentioned Bennie as being a fake live so it stands to reason that Got to was not since he was on to what was fake evidently.
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Post by Mike on Dec 6, 2015 21:09:50 GMT -5
Here's the list...."Fingertips", "Thank God I'm a Country Boy", "Got to Give it Up", "Coming Up" and "My Ding-a-ling". Mentioned Bennie as being a fake live so it stands to reason that Got to was not since he was on to what was fake evidently. OK. So "Peppermint Twist" was indeed the other missing song; those five were also counted for '87. That said, if this article is to be believed, then mga707 is also correct in that "Got to Give it Up" is also indeed "fake live": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_London_Palladium(Its respective album; the song's own article goes into detail.)
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 6, 2015 21:18:08 GMT -5
That's a good catch guys about Marvin Gaye. You know that is at least the second studio single on an otherwise live album that Casey misidentified. Said the same thing 2 out of 3 weeks that Journey's "The Party's Over" was on the countdown. BTW, that seems to be the case with "The Wild Boys" on this week's show from Duran Duran's Arena album. Not sure if Casey stumbled over that one or not. Not this week anyway.
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Post by marv101 on Dec 7, 2015 0:30:26 GMT -5
Got to Give It Up was indeed a studio cut which was recorded in Hollywood; Vince Aletti, who at that time was the Disco editor for Record World Magazine, identified it as being so.
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 7, 2015 16:44:47 GMT -5
The theory behind it is that the average listener only is listening to the radio for 15-20 minutes. PPM research says that by doing it this way, you retain more listeners for a longer period of time and you hopefully will hold onto your listener for the entire 15-20 minutes. The thought is that you will lose people during the stopsets, which has been a problem for decades. But, based on short listener habits, by the time the stopset is over, you then have a largely new group listening for the next cluster of programming. And if you can find a way to do a Casey Kasem style tease to get your listeners to either stay through the stopset or come back as it is ending, that is just gravy. I never hang around for radio commercials, but if the station can convince me, I will be sure I am tuning back in 4-5 minutes later so I am there for whatever is coming when they come back. This post about losing people during stopsets was still in my memory when I read an article in the paper. So here is part of that article..... On my way to work a few months ago, I was driving the other car, meaning the one without satellite radio. I was on my own, trying to function in the world of terrestrial radio, basically, whatever I could find with my push button radio. I was about halfway into my 30 minute trip when this unidentified voice came on and said, "9 in a row" right after this. In radio terms, the phrase "right after this" means you're about to hear a commerical cluster of anywhere from 6 to 13 minutes. For many it is the cue to start hunting for another station. The problem is, as you punch the buttons in rapid fashion, you run out of stations quickly because they all seem to play those dreaded commercials at the same time. The radio industry has a term for long ad clusters without music: they are called stopsets. For the remainder of my drive to work, I was simply a captive audience for those ads. Many years ago, radio stations played 3 or 4 songs then a few minutes of commercials, then back to the music. Then, sometime in the late 80s or early 90s radio consultants had an idea. They decided to stop the music once or twice an hour and play 8 to 12 minutes of commercials. The stopsets have now become an industry standard fr the big broadcast companies that own hundreds of stations across the country. And a quote from later in the article...."Once you get past 4 minutes of commercial time, you start losing listneners'" said Scott Gentry, president and general manager of Summit Media in Las Vegas. This was a essentially an FYI.
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Post by CoachEight on Dec 7, 2015 22:16:49 GMT -5
I don't necessarily disagree with anything being said regarding the duration of commercial breaks, but my willingness or reluctance to go station-hopping is dependent upon my programming choice at that particular moment. If I am listening to over-the-air radio - whether it's music or sports talk - I certainly go checking out what else is on when the given station goes to ads. I'll even jump channels when a song that I don't like comes on my SiriusXM receiver. However, if I'm listening to AT40 The 80s - whether it's terrestrial via WMMX or online, it's because I want to listen to AT40 The 80s. As such, I'll put up with commercial breaks of any duration. I may not like the length, but it's certainly better than the alternative! Also, a longer commercial break in theory should mean a longer duration of the show!
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Post by michaelcasselman on Dec 8, 2015 10:42:42 GMT -5
A longer stopset means I have time to go to the bathroom AND make myself a sandwich. No harm in that.
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Post by adam31 on Dec 8, 2015 12:11:22 GMT -5
A longer stopset means I have time to go to the bathroom AND make myself a sandwich. No harm in that. No question those are important benefits to the listener, but the only ones that I can think of.
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Post by kani on Dec 8, 2015 12:33:57 GMT -5
I'm curious what the year end special for 80s this year will air?
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Post by palmer7 on Dec 8, 2015 12:37:59 GMT -5
My guess...... 1987.
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Post by mkarns on Dec 8, 2015 13:00:30 GMT -5
Unlikely since that was done just three years ago. I'd guess either 1984 (played longest ago, in December 2007) or 1982 or 1986 (which have only had their top halves played.)
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Post by johnnywest on Dec 8, 2015 13:32:08 GMT -5
If it's going to be 1982 or 1986, it's going to be paired up with something else. Just like 1970 was offered along with 1978 a few years ago. So I'm betting 1984.
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Post by seminolefan on Dec 8, 2015 18:45:04 GMT -5
I'm leaning more towards 1982, since it's only been played four times this year (as the A show).
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