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Post by chrisinmi on Dec 17, 2012 0:56:15 GMT -5
Here were the station mentions for 12/15/84.
* WQXE Elizabethtown, KY * KZZK Richland, WA (102.7) - Currently country KORD-FM. Per Wiki article, KSSK was something of a Hot AC station during the '80s and ended up ceding the hit music audience to competitor KIOK (also now a country station) to go country in 1989. * WENS Indianapolis, IN * Q92 KEBQ Ardmore, OK (92.1) - According to Wiki, today's KACO-FM in Apache, OK, broadcasting a country format on 98.5, is descended from KEBQ. * KSRM Soldotna, AK "Playing Your Favorite Music" (920) - An AC station in 1984, now News/Talk. It sounded like Casey said KSRN, so this might have been another misread. * Y100 WHYI Fort Lauderdale, Miami & Palm Beach, FL * "The Rhythm of the City" KRCH Rochester, MN * Y102 FM & 1440 AM WHHY Montgomery, AL - I know the FM outlet has been discussed here, but I'm not sure about the AM, so here goes: it's now WLWI, a news/talk station. * CHOZ, St. John's, NF, Canada * KTYL, Tyler and Longview, TX "Your Radio Station in East Texas" * Q102, Big Rapids, MI - WAAQ got mentioned two weeks in a row, as they were also mentioned on the 12/22/84 show. And also on 12/7/85. * 98.5 WROR, Boston, MA
New stations welcomed: * 93 Stereo KXGO, Arcata and Eureka, CA (93.1) - From the looks of things this was an AOR station airing AT40 in 1984. It's Classic Rock today. * Lite 94 KRVL, Kerrville, TX (94.3) - This one's interesting. I would guess with a name like "Lite 94" that it carried an AC format, but Broadcasting Yearbooks throughout the mid-'80s report a country format for the station. Which is possible, since we've documented several other Country stations on this thread that carried AT40. In any case, today it's a Classic Rock station known as Rev-FM, and I took the liberty of updating the station's Wikipedia page which still had them listed as Country. It also sounded like Casey misread the calls as KRVO, but I can't be sure. * WCHP "on the campus of Central Michigan University", Mount Pleasant, MI
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Post by kent on Jul 13, 2015 18:51:11 GMT -5
I realize I'm a little late to the party here, but I thought I'd fill in the blanks on some of these great radio stations. (1) KOKR 105.5 Newport, AR is now, as another user mentions, a country station. It's also now on 96.7. (2) KXDX Stuttgart, AR was an AC known as "K-Ducks 105" as that part of Arkansas is famous for a large duck population. I believe it switched to oldies in the early 90's and became country KWAK-FM "Wings 105" a year or two later. I heard it went back to oldies/classic hits, but someone told me it had switched to country again recently. (3) KHIG in Jonesboro, AR was at 104.9 out of Paragould. It's now country KDXY, "The Fox." (4) KVMX 96.7 Eastland, TX moved to 95.1 and is now an Abilene area station as KABW for "Abilene's Wolf." The 96.7 out of Flower Mound, TX is the former KIKM-FM out of Sherman, TX, which had a sister station on 910 AM with the same calls that carried AT-40 in the 70's and early-to-mid 80's. (5) The top-40 incarnation of WBBO started on AM but eventually moved to its sister FM station with the same calls on 93.3. That station remained top-40 until the late 80's, when it switched to smooth jazz. Pretty sure it ran an adult alternative format for a few years after smooth jazz. It's now WTPT 93.3 "The Planet" and is owned by Entercom. (6) The KMOX in St. Louis that carried AT-40 was the FM at 103.3. It became KHTR and switched to oldies in November 1988. You can hear the format change here: formatchange.com/103-3-khtr-becomes-klou/(7) WZGO Z-106 in Bala Cynwyd, PA became WEGX "Eagle 106" about a year later. When Shamrock and Malrite merged in '93, the company was two FM's over the 20 FM limit. Some of the former Malrite partners kept 106.1 with the intention of selling it and flipped it to smooth jazz as WJJZ. The thinking was apparently that smooth jazz would be cheaper to run and wouldn't have all of the costs of being in a seesaw battle with WIOQ 102.1. (8) As some other posters have mentioned, KOMJ 103.7 in Omaha became top-40 KXKT, which flipped to country after a couple years of unsuccessfully challenging KQKQ 98.5. It was owned by the same company that owned Abilene, TX AT-40 affiliate KFQX 102.7. (9) KWCK-FM in Searcy, AR is indeed the former KSER-FM. KSER became KWCK-FM in '88. (10) Pretty sure KHFI "Austin's K-98" was at 98.3 with a whopping 1,300 watts of power during the Casey Kasem era of AT-40. I remember that station moving to 98.1 and raising power to 100,000 watts in the Spring of 1990. The move was short-lived because KVET and KASE had just won the rights to the UT games from KLBJ. Part of the agreement called for the football, and possibly the men's basketball, games to air on FM. Not wanting to pre-empt programming on KASE 101, Rogers and Spur Capital, which had just acquired the station from Encore Broadcasting, decided to do an LMA, which was, at the time, something new that Spur had also done in its home market of Jackson, MS. Rogers blew up KHFI to simulcast KVET, and Spur sold K-98.1's programming to the owners of oldies KQFX "Fox 96.7." (11) K-Lite in Grants, NM was at 95.3. That license no longer exists (it was deleted a long time ago). The calls were KLLT, and you should be able to see its record by searching the FCC database for "DKLLT." (12) Hot 97 in St. Louis most certainly did carry AT-40. Q-106.5 carried Casey's Top-40. Hot flipped to urban AC in either November or December '92 after WKBQ took it over. I still remember the sweeper, "Soul 63 is now Mix 97.1. Set a button before you forget!" Evergreen Media sold WKBQ to Zimmer, and it switched frequencies with new sister station WKKX 104.1 in January '94. Evergreen never owned KHTK/KXOK-FM and was just operating it in an LMA. It continued on with the urban AC format after the LMA ended. (13) KITY 92.9 in San Antonio was also known as "Power 93." It ran a top-40 format until late summer/early fall 1990 when it became one of the country's first official hot AC's as KSRR-FM "Star 93." The change left a lot of people scratching their heads. Outside of morning drive, Power 93 beat the market's other two top-40 stations handily, and Star 93 was average at best. Spanish-language broadcaster Tichenor announced it was buying the station at the end of 1992. It took over on March 1, 1993 and flipped it to a Spanish AC format that eventually took on call letters KROM as "La Romantica." It was originally going to be flipped to a Tejano format, but a sell of KXTN 107.5 had just fallen through, and Tichenor pounced on it between the time it announced the purchase of KSRR-FM and the time it took over the station. (14) KCIZ 104.9 in Springdale, AR was known as "KC-105." Despite only having 1,000 watts of power and having to compete against 100,000 watt KMCK 105.7, it held its own pretty well. However, it was sold in 1991, and the new owners flipped it to elevator music as "Eazy 105." One of the first promos for "Eazy 105" was giving away a Rolls Royce. The easy listening format failed miserably, and the station became KBEV "Beaver 105" about a year later. The easy listening format lived on at sister station KEZU 104.7 in the Ft. Smith area for another year or two. Although the two Eazy 105's in Fayetteville and Ft. Smith had the same format and ran the same contests, they were not a simulcast. After another format change, the station became KXNA, which it is today. (15) KJEL 103.7 in Lebanon, MO is a country station today. Shepherd sold it (and its other MO properties) to GoodRadio.TV for a fortune right before the economic collapse. (16) KHOO 99.9 in Waco was an AC that carried AT-40. It would flip to full-blown top-40 and pick up the KTKS calls that had just been jettisoned in Dallas in either '88 or '89. Kiss 100 was unable to make a dent in market leader KWTX-FM 97.5 and found itself needing a new format about a year later. It didn't want to go back to AC because another station had moved into the market and picked up the format. So, it decided to go country as WACO-FM after KJNE 102.5 and KNFO 95.5, which had carried AT-40 itself in the earlier part of the 80's before it flipped to country. (17) KJMO 100.1 Jefferson City, MO was a format-of-the-month station for a long time. After the J-100 days, it spent most of the 80's as "Lite Rock 100" before going to an oldies format. It kept the oldies until the mid-90's, when it became Hot AC "Kiss 100." That lasted until '98 or '99, when it became "Classic Hits 100.1 KJMO." I had the pleasure of working there from 2001 to 2004. In August 2003, its programming was moved to 104.1 and is now on 97.5, though it changed formats from classic hits to oldies in '04 shortly after Cumulus took over. 100.1 still has the KBBM calls and is now country "Nash FM." (18) Pretty sure KRVL 94.3 ran an AC format in the mid-to-late 80's. That format eventually made its way to sister station KERV 1230 while KRVL went country. It's doing classic rock today. That's all I have for now. May have more later on.
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Post by RCNipper on Jul 14, 2015 15:13:06 GMT -5
I realize I'm a little late to the party here, but I thought I'd fill in the blanks on some of these great radio stations. (1) KOKR 105.5 Newport, AR is now, as another user mentions, a country station. It's also now on 96.7. (2) KXDX Stuttgart, AR was an AC known as "K-Ducks 105" as that part of Arkansas is famous for a large duck population. I believe it switched to oldies in the early 90's and became country KWAK-FM "Wings 105" a year or two later. I heard it went back to oldies/classic hits, but someone told me it had switched to country again recently. (3) KHIG in Jonesboro, AR was at 104.9 out of Paragould. It's now country KDXY, "The Fox." (4) KVMX 96.7 Eastland, TX moved to 95.1 and is now an Abilene area station as KABW for "Abilene's Wolf." The 96.7 out of Flower Mound, TX is the former KIKM-FM out of Sherman, TX, which had a sister station on 910 AM with the same calls that carried AT-40 in the 70's and early-to-mid 80's. (5) The top-40 incarnation of WBBO started on AM but eventually moved to its sister FM station with the same calls on 93.3. That station remained top-40 until the late 80's, when it switched to smooth jazz. Pretty sure it ran an adult alternative format for a few years after smooth jazz. It's now WTPT 93.3 "The Planet" and is owned by Entercom. (6) The KMOX in St. Louis that carried AT-40 was the FM at 103.3. It became KHTR and switched to oldies in November 1988. You can hear the format change here: formatchange.com/103-3-khtr-becomes-klou/(7) WZGO Z-106 in Bala Cynwyd, PA became WEGX "Eagle 106" about a year later. When Shamrock and Malrite merged in '93, the company was two FM's over the 20 FM limit. Some of the former Malrite partners kept 106.1 with the intention of selling it and flipped it to smooth jazz as WJJZ. The thinking was apparently that smooth jazz would be cheaper to run and wouldn't have all of the costs of being in a seesaw battle with WIOQ 102.1. (8) As some other posters have mentioned, KOMJ 103.7 in Omaha became top-40 KXKT, which flipped to country after a couple years of unsuccessfully challenging KQKQ 98.5. It was owned by the same company that owned Abilene, TX AT-40 affiliate KFQX 102.7. (9) KWCK-FM in Searcy, AR is indeed the former KSER-FM. KSER became KWCK-FM in '88. (10) Pretty sure KHFI "Austin's K-98" was at 98.3 with a whopping 1,300 watts of power during the Casey Kasem era of AT-40. I remember that station moving to 98.1 and raising power to 100,000 watts in the Spring of 1990. The move was short-lived because KVET and KASE had just won the rights to the UT games from KLBJ. Part of the agreement called for the football, and possibly the men's basketball, games to air on FM. Not wanting to pre-empt programming on KASE 101, Rogers and Spur Capital, which had just acquired the station from Encore Broadcasting, decided to do an LMA, which was, at the time, something new that Spur had also done in its home market of Jackson, MS. Rogers blew up KHFI to simulcast KVET, and Spur sold K-98.1's programming to the owners of oldies KQFX "Fox 96.7." (11) K-Lite in Grants, NM was at 95.3. That license no longer exists (it was deleted a long time ago). The calls were KLLT, and you should be able to see its record by searching the FCC database for "DKLLT." (12) Hot 97 in St. Louis most certainly did carry AT-40. Q-106.5 carried Casey's Top-40. Hot flipped to urban AC in either November or December '92 after WKBQ took it over. I still remember the sweeper, "Soul 63 is now Mix 97.1. Set a button before you forget!" Evergreen Media sold WKBQ to Zimmer, and it switched frequencies with new sister station WKKX 104.1 in January '94. Evergreen never owned KHTK/KXOK-FM and was just operating it in an LMA. It continued on with the urban AC format after the LMA ended. (13) KITY 92.9 in San Antonio was also known as "Power 93." It ran a top-40 format until late summer/early fall 1990 when it became one of the country's first official hot AC's as KSRR-FM "Star 93." The change left a lot of people scratching their heads. Outside of morning drive, Power 93 beat the market's other two top-40 stations handily, and Star 93 was average at best. Spanish-language broadcaster Tichenor announced it was buying the station at the end of 1992. It took over on March 1, 1993 and flipped it to a Spanish AC format that eventually took on call letters KROM as "La Romantica." It was originally going to be flipped to a Tejano format, but a sell of KXTN 107.5 had just fallen through, and Tichenor pounced on it between the time it announced the purchase of KSRR-FM and the time it took over the station. (14) KCIZ 104.9 in Springdale, AR was known as "KC-105." Despite only having 1,000 watts of power and having to compete against 100,000 watt KMCK 105.7, it held its own pretty well. However, it was sold in 1991, and the new owners flipped it to elevator music as "Eazy 105." One of the first promos for "Eazy 105" was giving away a Rolls Royce. The easy listening format failed miserably, and the station became KBEV "Beaver 105" about a year later. The easy listening format lived on at sister station KEZU 104.7 in the Ft. Smith area for another year or two. Although the two Eazy 105's in Fayetteville and Ft. Smith had the same format and ran the same contests, they were not a simulcast. After another format change, the station became KXNA, which it is today. (15) KJEL 103.7 in Lebanon, MO is a country station today. Shepherd sold it (and its other MO properties) to GoodRadio.TV for a fortune right before the economic collapse. (16) KHOO 99.9 in Waco was an AC that carried AT-40. It would flip to full-blown top-40 and pick up the KTKS calls that had just been jettisoned in Dallas in either '88 or '89. Kiss 100 was unable to make a dent in market leader KWTX-FM 97.5 and found itself needing a new format about a year later. It didn't want to go back to AC because another station had moved into the market and picked up the format. So, it decided to go country as WACO-FM after KJNE 102.5 and KNFO 95.5, which had carried AT-40 itself in the earlier part of the 80's before it flipped to country. (17) KJMO 100.1 Jefferson City, MO was a format-of-the-month station for a long time. After the J-100 days, it spent most of the 80's as "Lite Rock 100" before going to an oldies format. It kept the oldies until the mid-90's, when it became Hot AC "Kiss 100." That lasted until '98 or '99, when it became "Classic Hits 100.1 KJMO." I had the pleasure of working there from 2001 to 2004. In August 2003, its programming was moved to 104.1 and is now on 97.5, though it changed formats from classic hits to oldies in '04 shortly after Cumulus took over. 100.1 still has the KBBM calls and is now country "Nash FM." (18) Pretty sure KRVL 94.3 ran an AC format in the mid-to-late 80's. That format eventually made its way to sister station KERV 1230 while KRVL went country. It's doing classic rock today. That's all I have for now. May have more later on. Hi, Kent... If you think you're late to the party!!! Being a born & raised "Noo Yawka," I gots to represent Da City Dat Nevvvva Sleeps! WPIX-FM (101.9-Tribune Broadcasting) ran AT-40 from 1970 to 1976. The station is now owned by my employer, CBS Radio, and is "All Sports" WFAN-FM. WXLO-FM (98.7-RKO Radio) ran AT-40 from 1976 to 1980. The station was originally WOR-FM (Drake Format) & WRKS-FM (98.7 KISS-Soul/R&B). In 2012, the station flipped to all-sports as WEPN-FM. WNBC-AM (660-NBC/GE) ran AT-40 from 1980 until 1986, when CBS Radio bought it & moved WFAN-AM from 1050 to 660, where it remains, today. WPLJ-FM (95.5-ABC Radio/Capital Cities-ABC) ran AT-40 from 1986 until the show's end on August 6th, 1988. WPLJ remains in competition with WHTZ-FM (Z-100). Sadly, no New York City Radio station has seen fit to pick up the Classic AT-40 shows now airing on other stations. Thank God for the Internet...and I-Heart Radio!
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Post by mga707 on Jul 14, 2015 17:45:19 GMT -5
Sadly, no New York City Radio station has seen fit to pick up the Classic AT-40 shows now airing on other stations. Thank God for the Internet...and I-Heart Radio! Out on the Island, WLIX (Ridge/Middle Island) carries both shows, 70s and 80s. They're one of my 'go to' stations for streaming as they are quite reliable. Don't know how strong their over-the-air signal is, of if their signal even reaches the far eastern edge of Queens, but at least they are in the area. I can't think of any other 'rimshot' stations in Jersey or Connecticut that carry the show.
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Post by RCNipper on Jul 14, 2015 18:47:11 GMT -5
Sadly, no New York City Radio station has seen fit to pick up the Classic AT-40 shows now airing on other stations. Thank God for the Internet...and I-Heart Radio! Out on the Island, WLIX (Ridge/Middle Island) carries both shows, 70s and 80s. They're one of my 'go to' stations for streaming as they are quite reliable. Don't know how strong their over-the-air signal is, of if their signal even reaches the far eastern edge of Queens, but at least they are in the area. I can't think of any other 'rimshot' stations in Jersey or Connecticut that carry the show. Hi, mga707... WLIX is a 21-watt LPFM, located near the dismantled Brookhaven nuclear plant past the half-way point toward Eastern Long Island. If you increased the power by 100 times, it still wouldn't get near NYC! Although WLIX is one of the first stations to broadcast AT-40 on weekends, the audio is in mono and not as good as the stations I do listen to AT-40 on. As a "general listening" radio station, I do love the fact that WLIX will play music that programmers - overall - wouldn't touch (Carpenters, Barry Manilow, etc.). On that end, I'm not too particular about stereo sound. I have a list of stations I listen to, based on quality and how much of AT-40 they'll play. I also have back-up stations to the main ones with the same audio quality. Although there are exceptions when it comes to "local" stations, I find that the I-Heart stations offer the best sound quality. I know WEZG plays every bit of AT-40, but the audio stream leaves a lot to be desired. WTOJ is great! So is KOKZ, especially since they've overhauled their stream audio chain. WMGN finally got rid of their old digital converter, which now makes for a far better sound and no heavy clicks & pops. It's totally clean. For the record: WODC has the best sound for AT-40 70's shows (back-up & "B" show is WBBG/KOKZ/KHLA/KACL/WMGN) WQSR has the best sound for AT-40 80's "A" shows (back-up & "B" show is WMJJ/KACL/KOKZ/KQQL/WTOJ/WNNS/WMGN) Considering everything that runs between the radio station and your computer, there are a million ways a stream can fail. That's why it's not a good idea to depend on only one or two stations to listen to AT-40. For example: It wasn't Ken Martin's fault (equipment, or otherwise - as previously mentioned by a poster) when the special broadcast of AT-40 from 7/11/70 on the WTOJ stream aired. That was an internet provider issue, which was far beyond Ken's control. Even I-Heart has their days. When something goes wrong, you can hear me scream from here to Hollywood! Meanwhile, back to the ranch... WLIX can be considered one of the "closest" stations to NYC that airs AT-40. However, if we can't hear it anywhere within the five boroughs, then it's not in the immediate NYC-Metro area. WIBG-FM (in Ocean County, NJ) also airs AT-40, but they are too far away to be picked up, as well. For us New Yorkers, we're at the mercy of the Internet if we want to hear Classic AT-40 shows. As long as all four of my PC's are up & running, I have no problem with that! }
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Post by blackbowl68 on Jul 14, 2015 18:58:39 GMT -5
Being a born & raised "Noo Yawka," I gots to represent Da City Dat Nevvvva Sleeps! WPIX-FM (101.9-Tribune Broadcasting) ran AT-40 from 1970 to 1976. The station is now owned by my employer, CBS Radio, and is "All Sports" WFAN-FM. WXLO-FM (98.7-RKO Radio) ran AT-40 from 1976 to 1980. The station was originally WOR-FM (Drake Format) & WRKS-FM (98.7 KISS-Soul/R&B). In 2012, the station flipped to all-sports as WEPN-FM. WNBC-AM (660-NBC/GE) ran AT-40 from 1980 until 1986, when CBS Radio bought it & moved WFAN-AM from 1050 to 660, where it remains, today. WPLJ-FM (95.5-ABC Radio/Capital Cities-ABC) ran AT-40 from 1986 until the show's end on August 6th, 1988. WPLJ remains in competition with WHTZ-FM (Z-100). Sadly, no New York City Radio station has seen fit to pick up the Classic AT-40 shows now airing on other stations. Thank God for the Internet...and I-Heart Radio! WPLJ carried AT40 well into the Shadoe years. I know it was on there when they did their 1992 year-end countdown. When Billboard Hot 100 changed its methodology in late 1991, Watermark was providing WPLJ a custom made version of the show so they could omit all the urban records in the weekly surveys. (This is why I started listening the show on WKSS out of Hartford, CT.)
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Post by mga707 on Jul 14, 2015 19:11:15 GMT -5
Out on the Island, WLIX (Ridge/Middle Island) carries both shows, 70s and 80s. They're one of my 'go to' stations for streaming as they are quite reliable. Don't know how strong their over-the-air signal is, of if their signal even reaches the far eastern edge of Queens, but at least they are in the area. I can't think of any other 'rimshot' stations in Jersey or Connecticut that carry the show. Hi, mga707... WLIX is a 21-watt LPFM, located near the dismantled Brookhaven nuclear plant past the half-way point toward Eastern Long Island. If you increased the power by 100 times, it still wouldn't get near NYC! Although WLIX is one of the first stations to broadcast AT-40 on weekends, the audio is in mono and not as good as the stations I do listen to AT-40 on. As a "general listening" radio station, I do love the fact that WLIX will play music that programmers - overall - wouldn't touch (Carpenters, Barry Manilow, etc.). On that end, I'm not too particular about stereo sound. Thanks for the reply! I had no idea that WLIX was that puny of a signal--21 watts won't even cover much of Suffolk County! I'm not big on the stereo/mono thing, so that's not a factor for me. I just like a good, reliable stream. One thing I do like about WLIX is that they run all local ads (and they seem to have plenty of local advertisers), which means no annoying Premiere ads, which, of course, means NO FLO!!!!!! (How I hate that woman, and by extension, that particular insurance company that subjects us to her!)
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Post by RCNipper on Jul 14, 2015 19:54:01 GMT -5
Being a born & raised "Noo Yawka," I gots to represent Da City Dat Nevvvva Sleeps! WPIX-FM (101.9-Tribune Broadcasting) ran AT-40 from 1970 to 1976. The station is now owned by my employer, CBS Radio, and is "All Sports" WFAN-FM. WXLO-FM (98.7-RKO Radio) ran AT-40 from 1976 to 1980. The station was originally WOR-FM (Drake Format) & WRKS-FM (98.7 KISS-Soul/R&B). In 2012, the station flipped to all-sports as WEPN-FM. WNBC-AM (660-NBC/GE) ran AT-40 from 1980 until 1986, when CBS Radio bought it & moved WFAN-AM from 1050 to 660, where it remains, today. WPLJ-FM (95.5-ABC Radio/Capital Cities-ABC) ran AT-40 from 1986 until the show's end on August 6th, 1988. WPLJ remains in competition with WHTZ-FM (Z-100). Sadly, no New York City Radio station has seen fit to pick up the Classic AT-40 shows now airing on other stations. Thank God for the Internet...and I-Heart Radio! WPLJ carried AT40 well into the Shadoe years. I know it was on there when they did their 1992 year-end countdown. When Billboard Hot 100 changed its methodology in late 1991, Watermark was providing WPLJ a custom made version of the show so they could omit all the urban records in the weekly surveys. (This is why I started listening the show on WKSS out of Hartford, CT.) Hi, blackbowl68... You're right about WPLJ picking up Shadoe Stevens, but... There was a gap of time between the original show's run and when Shadoe began airing on WPLJ. Having worked there at that time, I can remember it distinctly. I wondered why - as a product of ABC Radio - this show just didn't continue on. ABC Radio would have given first dibs to WPLJ as an "O&O" flagship FM station, but Z-100 put a bid in for it on a trial run. For some reason, the show didn't do well and the show left the air for a period of time. I'm not sure how long, as I left ABC Radio in September, 1990. Having no interest in the "Shadoe Show," I never followed what happened. I do know that ABC Radio pushed for WPLJ to air the show in NYC as a marketing tool to get other affiliates to sign on (as New York goes, so does the rest of America). AT-40 lost many affiliates after Casey left, so ABC Radio had to get the show back on track. Putting it on WPLJ helped quite a bit, but still didn't last as long as the new show's entire run. The "custom" show for WPLJ was a travesty, as it didn't reflect what actually was on the charts. This was at the behest of the program director at that time, Larry Berger. One of the engineers I worked with, who was black and, unfortunately, has since passed away, used to call this "custom" AT-40 show the "NBAT-40" - a hybrid of "No Blacks Allowed" & "AT-40." True, there were many great Soul/R&B songs edited out, but they were sacrificed for the many Rap/Hip Hop songs that had also made the charts. WPLJ's solution? Take 'em all out! The show was, literally, "whitewashed." As for Casey's Top 40: This new countdown played more for the A/C stations, than it did for Hit Radio formats. Had Casey gone with the Radio & Records charts, he would have also faced the same problem with an unbalanced playlist of Rap songs to other Pop hits. This is why he used other sources to put together a "Top-40" list of songs based on multiple charts geared to the A/C format. Having Rap/Hip Hop on an A/C station would have caused massive listener tune-out, as this wasn't the music they wanted to hear. This is not to say that Rap/Hip Hop was the only genre of music targeted. Heavy Metal, Hard Rock and certain dance tunes were also omitted from Casey's Top-40, because they just didn't fit the format for an A/C station carrying the show. In other words, Casey offered the same type of show, but not in the original mainstream sense, as with the original AT-40. By the time of the late 1980's, formats became niche programming and, essentially, killed off the more generic "Top-40" format that had proved so successful for over 30 years until that point. This is why so many AM radio stations chose talk over music. True, sound quality was a factor, but it was impossible for AM to compete with so many FM stations offering their brand of Pop Music formats in the same market. Casey found a way to straddle the middle by picking from various lists that would appeal to the greatest number of A/C stations (which proved to be ratings winners). This was the key to success of "Casey's Top-40." NYC has an A/C station - WLTW-FM (106.7 Lite-FM) - but it's owned by Clear Channel (now I-Heart). Casey's show was distributed by Westwood One, which was Clear Channel's competition as they aired programming from Premiere Radio. This is why "Casey's Top-40" never aired in NYC, sad to say.
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Post by RCNipper on Jul 14, 2015 19:59:00 GMT -5
Hi, mga707... WLIX is a 21-watt LPFM, located near the dismantled Brookhaven nuclear plant past the half-way point toward Eastern Long Island. If you increased the power by 100 times, it still wouldn't get near NYC! Although WLIX is one of the first stations to broadcast AT-40 on weekends, the audio is in mono and not as good as the stations I do listen to AT-40 on. As a "general listening" radio station, I do love the fact that WLIX will play music that programmers - overall - wouldn't touch (Carpenters, Barry Manilow, etc.). On that end, I'm not too particular about stereo sound. Thanks for the reply! I had no idea that WLIX was that puny of a signal--21 watts won't even cover much of Suffolk County! I'm not big on the stereo/mono thing, so that's not a factor for me. I just like a good, reliable stream. One thing I do like about WLIX is that they run all local ads (and they seem to have plenty of local advertisers), which means no annoying Premiere ads, which, of course, means NO FLO!!!!!! (How I hate that woman, and by extension, that particular insurance company that subjects us to her!) C'mon, mga! Gots to give up da luv for Flo! While we complain, she's laughing - all the way to the bank!!!
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Post by RCNipper on Jul 15, 2015 2:34:19 GMT -5
Hi, mga707... WLIX is a 21-watt LPFM, located near the dismantled Brookhaven nuclear plant past the half-way point toward Eastern Long Island. If you increased the power by 100 times, it still wouldn't get near NYC! Although WLIX is one of the first stations to broadcast AT-40 on weekends, the audio is in mono and not as good as the stations I do listen to AT-40 on. As a "general listening" radio station, I do love the fact that WLIX will play music that programmers - overall - wouldn't touch (Carpenters, Barry Manilow, etc.). On that end, I'm not too particular about stereo sound. Thanks for the reply! I had no idea that WLIX was that puny of a signal--21 watts won't even cover much of Suffolk County! I'm not big on the stereo/mono thing, so that's not a factor for me. I just like a good, reliable stream. One thing I do like about WLIX is that they run all local ads (and they seem to have plenty of local advertisers), which means no annoying Premiere ads, which, of course, means NO FLO!!!!!! (How I hate that woman, and by extension, that particular insurance company that subjects us to her!) Hi, mga... I don't mean to get personal with you, but I really do think you're in love with Flo. You've mentioned her more than once and this gives me the impression you have Flo on the brain. It's totally understandable, mga. She got under your skin. Now, all you can think of is that 15% savings in 15 minutes! Isn't Flo a sweetie? As for me; I'll stick with the free-range chicken & the Saint Bernard with horrendous table manners. To hell with the gecko! He ain't real, anyway! [:-P
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Post by dukelightning on Jul 15, 2015 7:25:48 GMT -5
WPLJ carried AT40 well into the Shadoe years. I know it was on there when they did their 1992 year-end countdown. When Billboard Hot 100 changed its methodology in late 1991, Watermark was providing WPLJ a custom made version of the show so they could omit all the urban records in the weekly surveys. (This is why I started listening the show on WKSS out of Hartford, CT.) Hi, blackbowl68... You're right about WPLJ picking up Shadoe Stevens, but... There was a gap of time between the original show's run and when Shadoe began airing on WPLJ. Having worked there at that time, I can remember it distinctly. I wondered why - as a product of ABC Radio - this show just didn't continue on. ABC Radio would have given first dibs to WPLJ as an "O&O" flagship FM station, but Z-100 put a bid in for it on a trial run. For some reason, the show didn't do well and the show left the air for a period of time. I'm not sure how long, as I left ABC Radio in September, 1990. Having no interest in the "Shadoe Show," I never followed what happened. I do know that ABC Radio pushed for WPLJ to air the show in NYC as a marketing tool to get other affiliates to sign on (as New York goes, so does the rest of America). AT-40 lost many affiliates after Casey left, so ABC Radio had to get the show back on track. Putting it on WPLJ helped quite a bit, but still didn't last as long as the new show's entire run. The "custom" show for WPLJ was a travesty, as it didn't reflect what actually was on the charts. This was at the behest of the program director at that time, Larry Berger. One of the engineers I worked with, who was black and, unfortunately, has since passed away, used to call this "custom" AT-40 show the "NBAT-40" - a hybrid of "No Blacks Allowed" & "AT-40." True, there were many great Soul/R&B songs edited out, but they were sacrificed for the many Rap/Hip Hop songs that had also made the charts. WPLJ's solution? Take 'em all out! The show was, literally, "whitewashed." As for Casey's Top 40: This new countdown played more for the A/C stations, than it did for Hit Radio formats. Had Casey gone with the Radio & Records charts, he would have also faced the same problem with an unbalanced playlist of Rap songs to other Pop hits. This is why he used other sources to put together a "Top-40" list of songs based on multiple charts geared to the A/C format. Having Rap/Hip Hop on an A/C station would have caused massive listener tune-out, as this wasn't the music they wanted to hear. This is not to say that Rap/Hip Hop was the only genre of music targeted. Heavy Metal, Hard Rock and certain dance tunes were also omitted from Casey's Top-40, because they just didn't fit the format for an A/C station carrying the show. In other words, Casey offered the same type of show, but not in the original mainstream sense, as with the original AT-40. By the time of the late 1980's, formats became niche programming and, essentially, killed off the more generic "Top-40" format that had proved so successful for over 30 years until that point. This is why so many AM radio stations chose talk over music. True, sound quality was a factor, but it was impossible for AM to compete with so many FM stations offering their brand of Pop Music formats in the same market. Casey found a way to straddle the middle by picking from various lists that would appeal to the greatest number of A/C stations (which proved to be ratings winners). This was the key to success of "Casey's Top-40." NYC has an A/C station - WLTW-FM (106.7 Lite-FM) - but it's owned by Clear Channel (now I-Heart). Casey's show was distributed by Westwood One, which was Clear Channel's competition as they aired programming from Premiere Radio. This is why "Casey's Top-40" never aired in NYC, sad to say. RC, looks like we are going to be butting heads on multiple issues. But Casey mostly definitely DID use Radio & Records for Casey's Top 40. I have virtually all of those shows plus I have the R&R chart information. In fact, I checked a couple of harder edged records just to be sure because you had me scratching my head for awhile. Living Colour's "Cult of Personality" peaked at 15 on the R&R chart and that is where it peaked on CT40 (the 5/6/89 show) and Metallica's "Mr. Sandman" peaked at 36 on the R&R chart and that is where it peaked on CT40 in November 1991. Maybe you are thinking of Rick Dees who was prone to using made up charts for his show.
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Post by blackbowl68 on Jul 15, 2015 7:36:41 GMT -5
Which begs me to ask this brainstorming question: Why were these top 40 countdown shows being catered to AC format stations at all? That would've made no sense in 1970 and even less sense in 1990. AT40 belonged on Z-100 more so than on WPLJ. Heck, even Hot 97 (a dance station at the time) was better off carrying it.
On top of that, I don't think Casey's Top 40 ever skewed the R&R pop charts to fit the format of the station carrying it. Rick Dees' Weekly Top 40 would have likely done that.
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Post by BrettVW on Jul 15, 2015 7:47:20 GMT -5
Rcnipper-
Casey used the R&R charts for the entire Westwood One run. CT40 charts were never designed for AC stations. They took the published chart and that was it. It was more friendly to radio stations than Billboard at the end because it reflected airplay.
Casey also aired on and off in NYC with various shows, and I know CH20 aired when it debuted. And the new era of AT40 aired on Z100 for many years.
And I swear Z100 is a station mention in the first CT40 show.
Creating CC and CH20 brought Casey to markets (including NYC and LA) that didn't have a CHR that was available or willing to air CT40
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Post by matt on Jul 15, 2015 19:18:42 GMT -5
I have a list of stations I listen to, based on quality and how much of AT-40 they'll play. I also have back-up stations to the main ones with the same audio quality. Although there are exceptions when it comes to "local" stations, I find that the I-Heart stations offer the best sound quality. I know WEZG plays every bit of AT-40, but the audio stream leaves a lot to be desired. WTOJ is great! So is KOKZ, especially since they've overhauled their stream audio chain. WMGN finally got rid of their old digital converter, which now makes for a far better sound and no heavy clicks & pops. It's totally clean. For the record: WODC has the best sound for AT-40 70's shows (back-up & "B" show is WBBG/KOKZ/KHLA/KACL/WMGN) WQSR has the best sound for AT-40 80's "A" shows (back-up & "B" show is WMJJ/KACL/KOKZ/KQQL/WTOJ/WNNS/WMGN) For the 70's, I would argue that since KOKZ upgraded their stream (they used to use a much more compressed stream, but sound like they are in the neighborhood of a 128-kbps mp3 stream now), they sound almost identical to WODC. Both are very good. For the 80's, I would argue that KISC beats all of those except maybe WQSR, to whom they sound nearly identical. WMLX has a very good stream also if they don't eff it up like they do too much of the time.
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Jul 16, 2015 8:50:37 GMT -5
During Shadoe's run, the first New York City radio station mentioned by Shadoe was WWPR. It was mentioned on the first show (13 Aug 1988) and then a couple of more times in 1988. WPLJ was first mentioned on 21 Jan 1989, and the station was then mentioned throughout the remainder of AT40's run in the USA.
For CT40, the R&R CHR chart (and then CHR/Pop) chart was used throughout its run without any changes. CC used the AC chart and CH20 used the HAC chart.
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