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Post by briguy52748 on Oct 12, 2014 16:55:26 GMT -5
Gee ... I was thinking we'd hold off on 1973 until the Nov. 10 show. Will we ever hear that week, I wonder?
In any case, here's what I'm predicting this week, with two of the extras heard on each of the first three episodes of the then-brand new radio program "American Country Countdown":
* "The Most Beautiful Girl" -- Charlie Rich. After two weeks of being played as a "sneak peek extra," Don Bowman got to introduce the song as an official top 40 hit. On its way to No. 1 on both the country and Hot 100 (and also the AC chart, too). * "Let Me Be There" -- Olivia Newton John. This was still about a month away from actually breaking the Hot 100, but it was off to a great start on the country chart, a week away from making that chart's top 40. But Bowman must have liked the song enough to play it as an extra three weeks in a row.
The third extra I say will be a tossup between two staples of classic hits/classic rock radio:
* "Hello It's Me" -- Todd Rungren. * "The Joker" -- The Steve Miller Band.
Brian
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Post by mct1 on Oct 12, 2014 17:45:31 GMT -5
Can anyone confirm whether or not the '73 "Dream On" single release was slightly different from the re-release, as I opined above? I seem to recall that it was, but I'm not certain. Too long ago... 2 completely different edits. 1973 version (Columbia 45894) ran 3:25 1976 version (Columbia 10155) ran 4:28 Also, there are some background singers (female vocal?) going "ahhhh" during the chorus of the 1973 version. The 1976 re-release single was the same as the album version. The original 1973 single was noticeably different in both mix and edit, as Ken indicated above. In this era, record companies produced special promotional versions of 45s for radio stations. These typically had the A-side on both sides of the record, rather than the commercially released B-side on one side, since the A-side is what the record companies were trying to get radio stations to play. Occasionally, the two sides of the promotional 45s would have two different versions of the featured A-side, e.g., long version/short version. In the case of the 1976 re-release of "Dream On", one side had the album version (same as the 1976 commercially released version of the 45), but the other had the remix/edit from the 1973 single, even though it was not available commercially anywhere in 1976. On every episode of AT40 that I have heard from the period in 1976 when "Dream On" was on the charts, the remix/edit is what was played, presumably taken from the promotional 45. A while back, Premiere ran a show from Aerosmith's 1987-88 chart comeback, and Casey played a snippet of "Dream On"; the snippet was from the remix/edit. In my experience, the version of "Dream On" played on the radio today is the album version/1976 single version virtually 100% of the time. I have never heard the remix/edit on the radio aside from reruns of Classic AT40s.
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Post by davewollenberg on Oct 12, 2014 19:03:49 GMT -5
Shame more stations don't wanna give the current temperature, when they run their weather forecasts. Darned automation!
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Post by mga707 on Oct 12, 2014 19:59:16 GMT -5
2 completely different edits. 1973 version (Columbia 45894) ran 3:25 1976 version (Columbia 10155) ran 4:28 Also, there are some background singers (female vocal?) going "ahhhh" during the chorus of the 1973 version. The 1976 re-release single was the same as the album version. The original 1973 single was noticeably different in both mix and edit, as Ken indicated above. In this era, record companies produced special promotional versions of 45s for radio stations. These typically had the A-side on both sides of the record, rather than the commercially released B-side on one side, since the A-side is what the record companies were trying to get radio stations to play. Occasionally, the two sides of the promotional 45s would have two different versions of the featured A-side, e.g., long version/short version. In the case of the 1976 re-release of "Dream On", one side had the album version (same as the 1976 commercially released version of the 45), but the other had the remix/edit from the 1973 single, even though it was not available commercially anywhere in 1976. On every episode of AT40 that I have heard from the period in 1976 when "Dream On" was on the charts, the remix/edit is what was played, presumably taken from the promotional 45. A while back, Premiere ran a show from Aerosmith's 1987-88 chart comeback, and Casey played a snippet of "Dream On"; the snippet was from the remix/edit. In my experience, the version of "Dream On" played on the radio today is the album version/1976 single version virtually 100% of the time. I have never heard the remix/edit on the radio aside from reruns of Classic AT40s. Thank both of you for the information--I knew that the version I was hearing on 580 KIKX in the fall of 1973 was not the same as the later 'hit' version that has been played to death since then! While we're discussing Aerosmith, I also recall that the 1975 single version of "Sweet Emotion" was also markedly different than the much more common LP track. I assume a similar situation on that one.
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Post by kchkwong on Oct 12, 2014 20:55:58 GMT -5
Predictions for the optional extras:
Nutbush City Limits - Ike & Tina Turner Hello It's Me - Todd Rundgren The Joker - The Steve Miller Band
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Post by mct1 on Oct 12, 2014 21:53:31 GMT -5
While we're discussing Aerosmith, I also recall that the 1975 single version of "Sweet Emotion" was also markedly different than the much more common LP track. I assume a similar situation on that one. The single of "Sweet Emotion" is heavily edited, but the editing is more straightforward than the 1973 "Dream On" single, and as far as I know it's the same mix as the album. I do hear the single version of "Sweet Emotion" once in a while on stations with formats oriented towards classic pop hits (as opposed to classic rock); the single version has been widely available for years on the 1980 compilation album Aerosmith's Greatest Hits. Album version: --Starts off with a lengthy intro, featuring a guitar "saying" the phrase "Sweet Emotion". The intro ends, and the main body of the song begins, on a cymbal crash. --Next, there is a chorus, followed by a verse. --Then, a distinctive guitar break featuring a guitar recorded backwards. The band plays through the same sequence twice, with the second time a little bit more aggressive sounding. --We then hear another chorus, followed by another verse. --The guitar break is repeated again. As before, The band plays through the same sequence twice, with the second time a little bit more aggressive sounding. The second time through concludes with a sustained guitar note, leading into an outro featuring a closing guitar solo. Single version: --No intro; starts on the cymbal crash that marks the beginning of the main body of the song on the album version. --Chorus and verse, as in the album version. --In the guitar break, we only hear the first sequence. The second sequence is edited out. --Another chorus and verse, as in the album version. --The guitar break again, and once again we only hear the first sequence. We never get to that sustained note, and we never hear the outro with the closing guitar solo. Instead, after the first time through the sequence, we cut to a loop of the chorus. The chorus repeats several times before fading out.
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Post by MrGeno502 on Oct 12, 2014 23:10:51 GMT -5
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Post by blackbowl68 on Oct 13, 2014 9:39:58 GMT -5
Upon looking at the 10/20/1973 Hot 100, I see alot of great records but few Premiere friendly numbers. Here are my optional extra predictions:
I Can't Stand The Rain - Ann Peebles The Most Beautiful Girl - Charlie Rich Friends - Bette Midler
Note: My first guess was #50 on that chart but wouldn't reach the Top 40 for two months!
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Post by mkarns on Oct 13, 2014 10:51:40 GMT -5
Upon looking at the 10/20/1973 Hot 100, I see alot of great records but few Premiere friendly numbers. Here are my optional extra predictions: I Can't Stand The Rain - Ann Peebles The Most Beautiful Girl - Charlie Rich Friends - Bette Midler Note: My first guess was #50 on that chart but wouldn't reach the Top 40 for two months! And the only way we'd ever hear it from Premiere is if it were an optional extra, as it was only in the top 40 for one week (12/22/73), on which date AT40 did a special Christmas countdown.
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Post by matt on Oct 13, 2014 11:10:27 GMT -5
Upon looking at the 10/20/1973 Hot 100, I see alot of great records but few Premiere friendly numbers. Here are my optional extra predictions: I Can't Stand The Rain - Ann Peebles The Most Beautiful Girl - Charlie Rich Friends - Bette Midler Note: My first guess was #50 on that chart but wouldn't reach the Top 40 for two months! "I Can't Stand the Rain" - dumb question: is that the same song as the Eruption song of the same title from 1978?
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Post by dukelightning on Oct 13, 2014 11:19:14 GMT -5
Yes it is. I thought Casey played a piece of it during Eruption's chart run but evidently not.
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Post by cpokilroy on Oct 13, 2014 11:53:48 GMT -5
Predictions for optional extras:
"Hello It's Me" - Todd Rundgren "D'yer Mak'er" - Led Zeppelin "The Joker" - Steve Miller Band
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Post by torcan on Oct 13, 2014 13:33:01 GMT -5
Quote: On every episode of AT40 that I have heard from the period in 1976 when "Dream On" was on the charts, the remix/edit is what was played, presumably taken from the promotional 45. A while back, Premiere ran a show from Aerosmith's 1987-88 chart comeback, and Casey played a snippet of "Dream On"; the snippet was from the remix/edit.
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As much as I love AT40, didn't things like that bug you just a bit? It seems more often than not AT40 went for the shorter version...but to play a version that hadn't been commercially available for three years...sometimes it must have left listeners scratching their heads a bit.
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Post by kenmartin on Oct 13, 2014 20:18:42 GMT -5
Quote: On every episode of AT40 that I have heard from the period in 1976 when "Dream On" was on the charts, the remix/edit is what was played, presumably taken from the promotional 45. A while back, Premiere ran a show from Aerosmith's 1987-88 chart comeback, and Casey played a snippet of "Dream On"; the snippet was from the remix/edit. ----- As much as I love AT40, didn't things like that bug you just a bit? It seems more often than not AT40 went for the shorter version...but to play a version that hadn't been commercially available for three years...sometimes it must have left listeners scratching their heads a bit. You can blame that one on Columbia Records. I have the '76 promo 45 and the short version ('73 version) is on one side and the long version is on the other. Attachments:
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Post by bobbo428 on Oct 14, 2014 12:39:38 GMT -5
Optional extras:
--Hello It's Me-Todd Rundgren --Rockin Roll Baby-Stylistics --Nutbush City Limits-Ike & Tina Turner
(In case of a tie--I haven't peeked at fellow posters' predictions): (I Don't Want to Love You But) You Got Me Anyway-Sutherland Brothers & Quiver (a song that missed the top 40 but reached top five locally--I had hoped that this fun song would be a bigger hit).
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