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Post by dukelightning on Sept 12, 2011 20:52:19 GMT -5
reachin, thanks for the info that I have been waiting all these years to learn. Not sure why I knew that "Imagine" was an Lp cut before it was a single but had not known that such was the case for UA/AH. But I did not know that although it's chart movement certainly leads one to think that way. When one considers that "Imagine" stalled at 3, it is fortuneate that UA/AH hit #1 at all. Both songs are probably multiple week #1s if they are not released so late. I believe one of the stations I listened to in 1971 was used by Billboard to help compile their Hot 100. I referenced their old charts and here is the history of the Paul McCartney song: (7/23/71) #16 debut (states "ALBUM" beside title, representing an LP cut) (7/30/71) #9 (continues to state "ALBUM") (8/6/71) #1 ("ALBUM" is no longer listed) (8/13/71) #1 (8/20/71) #1 (8/27/71) #4 etc So the song was already at #1 for multiple weeks before it reached #1 on Billboard's Hot 100. Perhaps Paul McCartney paid my local radio station too. Now, regarding "Imagine". It was not a huge selling single right out of the box like "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey", thus, explaining why it didn't make it to #1 after release. I know I didn't buy it and it was never certified gold during its chart run. I haven't checked recent numbers, but as of 1996, the single still had not been awarded a gold record. bumping this up for thefredboy who was wondering about UA/AH
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Post by reachinforthestars on Sept 12, 2011 22:48:31 GMT -5
reachinforthestars, based on your response, I assume you know how we lost this wonderful singer & dancer. I was trying to inject some irony around his biggest hit & I'm very sorry for doing that. I know his circumstance ALL TOO WELL. (& I'm sure Jody Watley does too) So may he rest in peace. It wasn't the first time I have heard the comment and I suppose that is why it has allowed me to digest it for many years. To some it is humorous, to some it is ironic, to some it implies accountability for one's actions. Your explanation was certainly better than the other alternatives. But to me, nothing good comes from any of the above. Yes, may he rest in peace.
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Post by Hervard on Sept 12, 2011 23:18:01 GMT -5
Hervard, may I ask what that avatar is in your signature? Well, I guess you could say that it's a subtle hint of how "eagle-centric" I can be, lol! On a more serious note (mind you, I do not wish to start a flame war here), regardless of the negative remarks I'm getting on my commentaries by a few certain people (if the shoe fits, wear it), I just want you all to know that I am NOT going to change my commentary method just because I supposedly "don't get it" or I am "no fan of roof-raising R&B". I mean really, so what? It is my opinion. Everyone has different opinions - I see opinions on here that I don't necessarily agree with, but I do not make any posts just to criticize them, do I? Someone mentioned how, in my commentaries for the 1970s shows, most of the time, I say "wtf did this sound like". That's bull. Mainly, I do that for the droppers, or, for 1979 shows, the songs in the first hour. In my 1976 critique (which I accidentally posted in the topic of the 1970s show instead of this one), note that I do not say "wtf did this sound like" once. Yes, I did have a few negative comments for a few songs, but that's to be expected. Every AT40 countdown has a few songs on it that I absolutely love and a few that I can't stand. If you like every song on a given countdown, then more power to you. But don't be razzing me just because I don't like every song that you do. You have your opinions and I have mine. Period. So, again, as much as some of you would like me to, I am not going to change my ways of writing commentaries. Criticize me all you want, if that makes you feel better about yourself. I've been doing them like this for years and I plan to continue to do so. If you don't like my commentaries, then don't read them - simple as that.
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Post by dukelightning on Sept 13, 2011 8:15:03 GMT -5
Next time I will defer to you since you are the authority on 1970. And I say that out of respect BTW. But I was just trying to say that the The Long and Winding Road was the last hurrah for the Beatles as they were known then. Re-releases and rehashing of earlier recordings is fine and dandy and I have the Let it be...Naked cd to that end but they should be given separate consideration from their 60s recordings. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed your critique very much. It's just interesting the different perspectives people can have on recordings. The Beatles is definitely one that is always open for lots of debate. Your critique is without question better than the "WTF did that sound like again" comments that truly make writing critiques pointless. I rest my case on the "WTF did that sound like" comments. But to me, it is really surprising that anyone can listen to AT40 when they don't like an entire genre of music, in this case "roof-raising R&B". More power to you because I bailed in the 90s when hip-hop and rap came along because I did not want to be constantly changing the station listening to say Casey's Top 40 when the umpteenth rap song was played. But in all due respect, I do enjoy your personal references as to what was going on in your life at the time. Your personal top 30 is also interesting. So I will continue reading the critiques, for better or worse.
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Post by Hervard on Sept 13, 2011 8:44:46 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed your critique very much. It's just interesting the different perspectives people can have on recordings. The Beatles is definitely one that is always open for lots of debate. Your critique is without question better than the "WTF did that sound like again" comments that truly make writing critiques pointless. I rest my case on the "WTF did that sound like" comments. But to me, it is really surprising that anyone can listen to AT40 when they don't like an entire genre of music, in this case "roof-raising R&B". More power to you because I bailed in the 90s when hip-hop and rap came along because I did not want to be constantly changing the station listening to say Casey's Top 40 when the umpteenth rap song was played. But in all due respect, I do enjoy your personal references as to what was going on in your life at the time. Your personal top 30 is also interesting. So I will continue reading the critiques, for better or worse. Now that's what I like to hear (or, in this case, read). As for the wtf did this sound like again songs, whenever there's an unfamiliar song dropping out, or played in the first hour (in the case of four-hour shows), I'll hop on over to YouTube and see if I can find a video with the song, so I can see wtf it sounds like. I said that I'd do that for past critiques, but I always got sidetracked. Perhaps a good time to do that is during a "roof raising R&B song". But thanks for the compliments on my references to my personal life at the time of the show, as well as my personal Top 30 chart. BTW, I bailed out on the current American Top 40 about this time last year, not so much because of the music (I guess I have a high tolerance for crap songs), but because of all the celebrity gossip. That totally defeats the whole purpose and makes the show painfully boring to listen to. Thank God we still have old-school American Top 40 - even with the songs that I don't care for. At least the stories are interesting.
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Post by franky on Sept 13, 2011 10:56:08 GMT -5
Hervard, who cares what other people think. I love teasing you, but it's all in fun. It's been that way for years. You know that buddy. In fact, you're the main reason why I started writing my own critiques about once or twice a month. You influenced me bro. It would be really boring if you did like every song. At least you're honest. You're right. If people have a problem with it, then they can ignore you. I will keep reading. I love making fun of you and disagreeing with you.
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Post by Ponderous Man on Sept 13, 2011 17:39:04 GMT -5
Well, I guess you could say that it's a subtle hint of how "eagle-centric" I can be, lol! First off, in response to that joke: No. Just no. Secondly, are you a fan of the band the Eagles or any sports teams known as the Eagles? Finally, I don't have a problem with your critiques, although I was in shock at one time when you didn't know "It Only Takes A Minute" by Tavares. I'm just messing around as well.
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Post by mrjukebox on Sept 13, 2011 22:27:39 GMT -5
Here's my critique of the countdown from 9/21/74,which is airing this weekend on terrestrial radio: #40-"Tin Man"-America-One of their best songs. #39-"Fallin In Love"-Souther,Hillman,Furay Band-The only top forty hit for this country rock supergroup which was led by singer-songwriters Richie Furay (Buffalo Springfield,Poco),Chris Hillman (The Byrds) & J.D.Souther (Longbranch Pennywhistle)-Great song which should've been a bigger hit. #38-"Papa Don't Take No Mess (Part 1)"-James Brown-One of his lesser known hits-Great song. #37-"Love Me For A Reason"-The Osmonds-Great song. #36-"Wildwood Weed"-Jim Stafford-Classic novelty record. #35-"Wild Thing"-Fancy-Decent rendition of a song that The Troggs originally took to #1 in 1966. #34-"Rub It In"-Billy "Crash" Craddock-Great song that was also a hit on the country chart. #33-"Feel Like Makin Love"-Roberta Flack-A former #1 hit & a timeless classic. #32-"Do It Baby"-The Miracles-The first song that featured Billy Griffin on lead vocals-Great example of old school R&B. #31-"The Night Chicago Died"-Paper Lace-A bonafide guilty pleasure. #30-"The B***h Is Back"-Elton John-The second release from his album "Caribou"-Great song-Unfortunately,this song doesn't receive recurrent airplay anymore-It may have something to do with the fact that a certain obscenity appears in the title. #29-"Jazzman"-Carole King-The initial release from her album "Wrap Around Joy"-Outstanding song. #28-"I Love My Friend"-Charlie Rich-Great song from this country singer whose nickname was "The Silver Fox". #27-"Skin Tight"-Ohio Players-Great song. #26-"Stop & Smell The Roses"-Mac Davis-Fantastic song-FYI:This was co-written by Carl "Doc" Severinsen who was the bandleader on "The Tonight Show" during the Johnny Carson era. #25-"Steppin Out (Gonna Boogie Tonight)"-Tony Orlando & Dawn-One of their best songs. #24-"Tell Me Something Good"-Rufus-Great song written by Stevie Wonder. #23-"Free Man In Paris"-Joni Mitchell-From her album "Court & Spark"-Another great song which never receives recurrent airplay. #22-"You Little Trustmaker"-The Tymes-The final top forty hit for this Philadelphia based vocal group-Fantastic song. #21-"Never My Love"-Blue Swede-Here's a song that was first a hit for The Association (1967) & then The Fifth Dimension (1971)-Three years later,it reached the top forty for the third & final time-Decent rendition. #20-"Can't Get Enough"-Bad Company-The breakthrough smash for this British group which featured Paul Rodgers on lead vocals-A bonafide rock & roll classic. #19-"Earache My Eye"-Cheech & Chong-The highest charting single for the duo of Richard "Cheech" Marin & Tommy Chong-A certifiable comedy classic. #18-"Let's Put It All Together"-The Stylistics-Another timeless classic. #17-"You & Me Against The World"-Helen Reddy-A timeless classic written by Paul Williams. #16-"It's Only Rock & Roll"-Rolling Stones-One of their best songs. #15-"Who Do You Think You Are"-Bo Donaldson & The Heywoods-Great song which never receives recurrent airplay. #14-"Sweet Home Alabama"-Lynyrd Skynyrd-The breakthrough smash for this Southern rock group which featured Ronnie Van Zant on lead vocals-Another bonafide classic. #13-"I'm Leaving It All Up To You"-Donny & Marie Osmond-Decent rendition of a song that went to #1 in 1963 for another male-female duo:Dale & Grace. #12-"Beach Baby"-First Class-The ultimate homage to The Beach Boys-Great song. #11-"Another Saturday Night"-Cat Stevens-Fantastic rendition of a song that was originally a hit for Sam Cooke in 1963. #10-"Hang On In There Baby"-Johnny Bristol-Great song. #9-"You Haven't Done Nothin"-Stevie Wonder-Rumor has it this song was written about Richard Nixon-A timeless classic which featured The Jackson Five on background vocals. #8-"Clap For The Wolfman"-Guess Who-Great song which was written about the late Bob Smith (aka Wolfman Jack). #7-"You're Havin My Baby"-Paul Anka-When this song was released in the summer of 1974,it sparked a fair amount of controversy-The various feminist groups such as NOW (National Organization Of Women) branded Anka as a male chauvinist-In later years when Anka performed this song in concert,he amended the title to "You're Havin Our Baby"-In any event,this is a timeless classic. #6-"Then Came You"-Dionne Warwick & The Spinners-A one-off duet & a timeless classic. #5-"I Shot The Sheriff"-Eric Clapton-Great rendition of a song that was written & first recorded by Bob Marley. #4-"Nothing From Nothing"-Billy Preston-Another timeless classic that was headed for #1. #3-"I Honestly Love You"-Olivia Newton-John-Another timeless classic. #2-"Rock Me Gently"-Andy Kim-Great song that was headed for #1. #1-"Can't Get Enough Of Your Love,Babe"-Barry White-His biggest chart hit overall & another timeless classic.
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Sept 14, 2011 4:58:16 GMT -5
I don't know about you guys, but 4 stations in Rochester and the station I work for in nearby Geneva all still play pregnant dog Is Back by Elton.
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Post by dukelightning on Sept 14, 2011 11:23:49 GMT -5
Hey bme....a b.tch is not necessarily a pregnant dog but a pregnant dog is a b.tch....lol....and I am only talking about the 4 legged b.tches
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Post by mrjukebox on Sept 15, 2011 21:02:17 GMT -5
Here's my critique of the countdown from 9/19/81,which is airing this weekend on terrestrial radio: #40-"I'm In Love"-Evelyn King-Great song that should've been a much bigger hit. #39-"Straight From The Heart"-Allman Brothers Band-The final top forty hit for this iconic Southern rock group-Great song. #38-"Just Once"-Quincy Jones featuring James Ingram-The initial release from his album "The Dude"-A timeless classic written by Barry Mann & Cynthia Weil. #37-"When She Was My Girl"-Four Tops-One of their best songs. #36-"Some Days Are Diamonds"-John Denver-One of his lesser known hits-Great song. #35-"General Hospi-Tale"-The Afternoon Delights-In the early 1980's,"General Hospital" was the highest rated soap opera on daytime TV-This turned out to be the only major hit for this Boston based vocal studio quartet-Classic novelty record. #34-"Chloe"-Elton John-One of his lesser known hits-Decent song. #33-"We're In This Love Together"-Al Jarreau-The first of three top forty hits for this native of Milwaukee,WI-Great song which never receives recurrent airplay. #32-"You Could Take My Heart Away"-Silver Condor-The only chart entry for this NYC based group that featured Joe Cerisano on lead vocals-Great song which should've been a bigger hit. #31-"I've Done Everything For You"-Rick Springfield-Great song that was written by Sammy Hagar. #30-"Fire & Ice"-Pat Benatar-The initial release from her album "Precious Time"-Great song. #29-"Hard To Say"-Dan Fogelberg-Outstanding song which featured Glenn Frey of The Eagles on background vocals. #28-"Draw Of The Cards"-Kim Carnes-Decent follow up to "Bette Davis Eyes". #27-"Private Eyes"-Daryl Hall & John Oates-A timeless classic that was headed for #1. #26-"Super Freak"-Rick James-Nine years later,in 1990,MC Hammer sampled this timeless classic for his breakthrough smash "You Can't Touch That". #25-"Share Your Love"-Kenny Rogers-Outstanding song which featured Gladys Knight & The Pips on background vocals. #24-"Really Wanna Know You"-Gary Wright-His third & final top forty hit-Another outstanding song. #23-"Breaking Away"-Balance-Fourteen years earlier,lead singer Peppy Castro reached the top forty for the first time as a member of The Blues Magoos-They peaked at #5 with "We Ain't Got Nothin Yet"-"Breakin Away" marked his second top forty appearance-Great song which should've been a much bigger hit. #22-"I Could Never Miss You"-Lulu-The final top forty hit for this Scottish singer-Great song which never receives recurrent airplay. #21-"In Your Letter"-REO Speedwagon-The fourth & final release from their album "Hi Infidelity"-Great song. #20-"The Night Owls"-Little River Band-Great song. #19-"For Your Eyes Only"-Sheena Easton-From the James Bond movie of the same name-Great song. #18-"The Voice"-Moody Blues-The second release from their album "Long Distance Voyager"-Great song. #17-"The Breakup Song"-Greg Kihn Band-The initial release from this group that's based in Berkeley,CA-Great song. #16-"Cool Love"-Pablo Cruise-One of their lesser known hits-Great song. #15-"Believe It Or Not"-Joey Scarbury-Great song that was the theme to the TV series "Greatest American Hero". #14-"The Beach Boys Medley"-Beach Boys-Capitol Records assembled eight of the band's biggest hits-A timeless classic. #13-"Jessie's Girl"-Rick Springfield-A former #1 hit & another timeless classic. #12-"Hold On Tight"-ELO-One of their best songs. #11-"Start Me Up"-Rolling Stones-The initial release from the album "Tattoo You"-One of their best songs. #10-"Slow Hand"-Pointer Sisters-Great song. #9-"Step By Step"-Eddie Rabbitt-One of his best songs. #8-"Lady (You Bring Me Up)"-Commodores-Great song which still receives recurrent airplay. #7-"Arthur's Theme"-Christopher Cross-A timeless classic that was featured in the Dudley Moore movie of the same name. #6-"Who's Crying Now"-Journey-The initial release from their album "Escape"-A timeless classic. #5-"No Gettin Over Me"-Ronnie Milsap-His biggest pop chart hit overall & another timeless classic. #4-"Urgent"-Foreigner-The initial release from their album "4"-Outstanding song which featured the late Junior Walker on saxophone. #3-"Stop Draggin My Heart Around"-Stevie Nicks & Tom Petty-The initial release from Stevie's first solo album "Bella Donna"-Great song. #2-"Queen Of Hearts"-Juice Newton-Her biggest chart hit overall & another timeless classic. #1-"Endless Love"-Diana Ross & Lionel Richie-A timeless classic that would also be a hit for Mariah Carey & Luther Vandross in 1994.
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Post by atruefan on Sept 15, 2011 22:43:47 GMT -5
#28-"Draw Of The Cards"-Kim Carnes-Decent follow up to "Bette Davis Eyes".
This is definitely a case of an absolutely horrible followup to a number one smash. This atrocity would never ever have even seen the Hot 100 if it hadn't been for BDE.
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Post by bigal on Sept 16, 2011 3:59:29 GMT -5
#28-"Draw Of The Cards"-Kim Carnes-Decent follow up to "Bette Davis Eyes". This is definitely a case of an absolutely horrible followup to a number one smash. This atrocity would never ever have even seen the Hot 100 if it hadn't been for BDE. to me, the first example of where the visual music video fits with the song, and listening to the song without it, makes it unlistenable. the laughter at the end is funny though, always got a kick out of that!
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Post by dukelightning on Sept 16, 2011 8:43:09 GMT -5
mrjukebox, that was the second release from "The Dude". Casey also mentioned that the first release Ai No Corrida peaked at 28. Glad you mentioned Junior Walker playing on Urgent. A lot of 60s songs and artists on this show. Hey hervard, thought I would help you out a little since I know you were kind of young on this date in 1974 and might not recognize the droppers. So here they are followed by a bonus track for everybody. www.youtube.com/watch?v=eamL5JBdcM8www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDRLZFgEoGw (great slide show) www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrvRystcxnQwww.youtube.com/watch?v=oSEfaNhhKcowww.youtube.com/watch?v=tg0BNTebcbYThat last one is a southern rock song and another such song is in the 9/21/74 show. It's Sweet Home Alabama. In it there is a line, "Well, I hope Neil Young will remember, a southern man don't need him around anyhow". And for those of you wondering what all that is about, it's about this Neil Young song that he recorded in 1970................ www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVRxdPWV3RMAnd the first post underneath it sums up the whole situation...... "I'd love to see this reissued as a 12 inch single with Lynyrd Skynyrd's Sweet Home Alabama on the flipside. Neil on teh cover wearing a Skynyrd Confederate flag t-shirt and the late, great Ronnie Van Zandt on the back cover wearing his infamous Neil t-shirt. Two sides of this issue, people like it or not" Song was not released but got maybe still gets a lot of airplay on classic rock stations.
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Post by reachinforthestars on Sept 16, 2011 23:40:59 GMT -5
#28-"Draw Of The Cards"-Kim Carnes-Decent follow up to "Bette Davis Eyes". This is definitely a case of an absolutely horrible followup to a number one smash. This atrocity would never ever have even seen the Hot 100 if it hadn't been for BDE. "Draw Of The Cards" is considered a great song to a lot of people, and I am one of those people. Does it belong on Top 40 radio? Probably not. The song is very dark and sophisticated. It's progressive rock, which normally fails on Top 40 radio. It's similar to "Mama" by Genesis, which I also love, but "Mama" was not attractive to Top 40 radio either. If I had a choice between listening to "Bette Davis Eyes" or "Draw Of The Cards", I would pick "Draw Of The Cards" without hesitation. The song never ages. While "Bette Davis Eyes" sounds dated to me. To each his own.
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