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Post by Hervard on Oct 23, 2012 13:27:51 GMT -5
Forgive me if there's already a thread about this - I'm sort of pressed for time and don't have time to go over the boards with a fine tooth comb - anyhoo, what do you think the year-end show this year is going to be?
For the 70s, I have a feeling there might be a two-fer - either a three-hour show from the 70s, or a full four-hour show for the 80s (I think both are going to be two-part shows). Anyway, for the three-hour year-ender, I'm predicting 1972. The four-hour one will likely be 1975, since they've been skimping on that year lately.
For the 1980s show, I have a strong feeling they're going to repeat 1984, doing the full Top 100 of that year. I can't think of any other logical explanation of the way they're being stingy with shows from that year.
What are your predictions?
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Oct 23, 2012 13:43:44 GMT -5
A long overdue choice would be 1975 for the 70s--neither Premiere nor SXM has ever broadcast that one. 1978 is the show that has been rebroadcast longest ago (5 years ago) For the 1980s, 1981 or 1987 would be a long overdue choices, again neither Premiere nor SXM has ever broadcast either.
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Post by johnnywest on Oct 23, 2012 14:06:12 GMT -5
I'm gonna say 1987 for the '80s, since it hasn't been done.
I would like to hear 1979 and the Top 50 of the decade for the '70s.
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Post by briguy52748 on Oct 23, 2012 15:21:18 GMT -5
To my knowledge, here's what I understand has not aired as part of "AT40: The 70s" and "AT40: The 80s":
• 1970s: 1970, 1972, 1975 and 1979.
• 1980s: 1981, 1987, 1988 and 1989. (The latter two – *groan* – because of D'Shadoe.)
If there is any justice to this world, we'll hear 1989 this year. Failing that, I'll go with 1987 first and then 1981. (That said, drop the "It's got to be Casey or it's nobody" act. It's old. It's really old. It truly is.))
For the 1970s, actually, I wouldn't mind hearing any one of those four years that haven't been heard. We'll probably get a two-fer, meaning either 1970 or 1972 paired with 1979, with 1975 as a stand-alone if Premiere goes that direction.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2012 16:03:35 GMT -5
If you don't want those retorts then drop lines like "if there is any justice in the world we'll hear 1989." You cannot keep repeating this mantra and then not expect people to say something about it. Sorry to tell you, there is justice in the world sometimes but you won't hear it unless you have it and listen to it alone in your house.
They love repeats, I'll say 84.
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Oct 23, 2012 20:39:50 GMT -5
There's also the Casey's Top 40 year end for 1989 (although it's only a top 40). Since it's hosted by Casey, there may be a better chance (although still not a good chance, given Premiere's refusal--so far- to broadcast Casey's Top 40 on terrestrial) that you would hear that show rather than one of the Shadoe year ends.
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Post by matt on Oct 23, 2012 20:41:23 GMT -5
For the 70's: I will go with 1979 on the weekend of Dec. 29th, with an outside shot that we get the Top 50 of the 70's the following weekend.
For the 80's: The logical show in Premiere's pattern of year-enders would have been 1987 this year. However, I am starting to wonder if paul's guess isn't correct...a repeat of the Top 100 of 1984.
Another thing I agree with paul on...Brian, you absolutely should expect retorts when you throw out Shadoe shows for show predictions and obscure country songs for predictions of extras. One might think you feed off the controversy.
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Post by mrjukebox on Oct 23, 2012 21:36:36 GMT -5
"AT40-The 70's"-Top 40 Of 1970
"AT40-The 80's"-Top 100 Of 1987
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2012 4:41:29 GMT -5
However, I am starting to wonder if paul's guess isn't correct... Another thing I agree with paul on... Of course you agree with me. Everyone is coming to my way of thinking and logic about everything. One day America will be primed for my run to become President Emperor of the USA. I will win in a landslide because America will know it needs me. ;D |
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Post by Hervard on Oct 24, 2012 11:16:34 GMT -5
^Stewie Griffin, is that you?  But seriously, as I've mentioned several times already, I get more and more of a feeling that the year-ender of the 1980s is going to be a repeat of 1984 every week that year is ignored on the show. Of course, there is a possibility that we'll hear a 1984 show in November and then again in December. If that happens, then I'll change my mind for the year-ender and go with my back-up prediction, which, by the way, is 1987. I somehow doubt that they'll do 1981 and, if they do, it'll probably only be the Top 50. |
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Post by briguy52748 on Oct 24, 2012 11:55:06 GMT -5
For the 70's: I will go with 1979 on the weekend of Dec. 29th, with an outside shot that we get the Top 50 of the 70's the following weekend. For the 80's: The logical show in Premiere's pattern of year-enders would have been 1987 this year. However, I am starting to wonder if paul's guess isn't correct...a repeat of the Top 100 of 1984. Another thing I agree with paul on...Brian, you absolutely should expect retorts when you throw out Shadoe shows for show predictions and obscure country songs for predictions of extras. One might think you feed off the controversy. MY PREDICTIONS OF COUNTRY SONGS ARE NOT OBSCURE COUNTRY SONGS!!!! d**n IT!!!! IF THEY TRULY WERE THAT[/i] OBSCURE, I WOULDN'T BE PREDICTING THEM AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll explain it again – the songs I pick at least either make the Hot 100, are by a former AT40 artist with a significant number of top 40 hits (e.g., Paul Davis), or are historic in some way that everybody knows who they are. If you don't know who George Strait or Randy Travis are, you're living under a rock! Sorry, but that's how I feel. I am sticking by my prediction of 1987 for the year-end "AT40: The 80s," and yes, that is one that Casey hosted. If you would have read my post and read between the lines, you would have understood that despite my feelings, I don't see 1988 or 1989 happening. Subject closed. Let's get back to the subject at hand: what's the top 40. Brian P.S. Paul: You think another rerun? I disagree – I don't believe for a moment that Premiere has that lack of desire to give us shows we haven't heard, or are that lazy that they don't want to produce shows we've yet to hear. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2012 12:07:07 GMT -5
For the 70's: I will go with 1979 on the weekend of Dec. 29th, with an outside shot that we get the Top 50 of the 70's the following weekend. For the 80's: The logical show in Premiere's pattern of year-enders would have been 1987 this year. However, I am starting to wonder if paul's guess isn't correct...a repeat of the Top 100 of 1984. Another thing I agree with paul on...Brian, you absolutely should expect retorts when you throw out Shadoe shows for show predictions and obscure country songs for predictions of extras. One might think you feed off the controversy. MY PREDICTIONS OF COUNTRY SONGS ARE NOT OBSCURE COUNTRY SONGS!!!! d**n IT!!!! IF THEY TRULY WERE THAT[/i] OBSCURE, I WOULDN'T BE PREDICTING THEM AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll explain it again – the songs I pick at least either make the Hot 100, are by a former AT40 artist with a significant number of top 40 hits (e.g., Paul Davis), or are historic in some way that everybody knows who they are. If you don't know who George Strait or Randy Travis are, you're living under a rock! Sorry, but that's how I feel. I am sticking by my prediction of 1987 for the year-end "AT40: The 80s," and yes, that is one that Casey hosted. If you would have read my post and read between the lines, you would have understood that despite my feelings, I don't see 1988 or 1989 happening. Subject closed. Let's get back to the subject at hand: what's the top 40. Brian P.S. Paul: You think another rerun? I disagree – I don't believe for a moment that Premiere has that lack of desire to give us shows we haven't heard, or are that lazy that they don't want to produce shows we've yet to hear.[/quote] Yeah because that belief has been so well founded the last several weeks. All I see in the other threads is complaints of another repeat, another repeat, another repeat. Look I have no money riding on this one way or the other. And I hope for those who you who listen that it is a non-repeat. If it is a non-repeat I'd guess it'll be 87, but they don't seem to be in any hurry to air new stuff, so I see just see 84 happening again. Now as far as this country song argument which I never addressed until now, I doubt many here on this board would NOT know who George Strait or Randy Travis are. However, I DO doubt and I am sure nearly everyone else on this board does also that any pd at nearly any station airing an 80s AT40 show is going to be happy with an extra by the artist you mentioned. Why? I'm glad you asked....because I'd be shocked if more than 3 or 4 at the most have anything by either of those artists in their library playlist. How often do we go through this? Station owners and pd's assume from the get go their listening audience is stupid. Especially those stations that specialize in older music. They assume you only know and want to hear the same songs you recognize (the ones their CHR stations years ago played to death and made you recognize them) over and over again, all day, everyday. Straying from this in their world means you are going to turn the dial, head will explode, anything but listen to a different song. This is further compounded when you start thinking they are going to play something from a different format altogether and think that's going to go off without a hitch. |
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Post by briguy52748 on Oct 24, 2012 12:19:07 GMT -5
Yeah because that belief has been so well founded the last several weeks. All I see in the other threads is complaints of another repeat, another repeat, another repeat. Look I have no money riding on this one way or the other. And I hope for those who you who listen that it is a non-repeat. If it is a non-repeat I'd guess it'll be 87, but they don't seem to be in any hurry to air new stuff, so I see just see 84 happening again. At least that's one point you and I agree on. If it is a rerun, though, I'd like to hear 1982 again. As for 70s reruns, 1971 since it's three hours, and being the only show. I know you didn't address what I said earlier about my oldies predictions – and as I was typing this, you have now addressed it – but you and the others, it's just d**n frustrating when Premiere could easily play a more obscure song as an extra. It doesn't even necessarily have to be a country song ... I've started adding lower-performing songs by well-known artists, particularly if they're classic rock and hence, may have gotten/may get classic rock or album rock airplay. I mentioned this week, for instance, ZZ Top having a song that fell just short of the top 40 in October 1976, but could very well be a popular song amongst the classic rock-leaning fans of the classic hits-oldies audience. And some of the "obscure" country songs that I've picked ... some of them did well on the Adult Contemporary chart, and I'd bet there are quite a few AC-leaning fans in the classic hits-oldies audience. With my picks in mind, I try to appeal to everyone, not just the same four or five songs you'd expect to hear. I can understand one, maybe two of the more well-known songs to be extras in a given week, and would prefer one of Larry Morgan's brief stretch stories to go with them. But try to appeal to everyone. Station owners and pd's assume from the get go their listening audience is stupid. Especially those stations that specialize in older music. They assume you only know and want to hear the same songs you recognize (the ones their CHR stations years ago played to death and made you recognize them) over and over again, all day, everyday. Straying from this in their world means you are going to turn the dial, head will explode, anything but listen to a different song. This is further compounded when you start thinking they are going to play something from a different format altogether and think that's going to go off without a hitch. I'l admit if I were running a classic hits station, I probably wouldn't have George Strait. Might have Randy Travis' " Forever and Ever Amen" and maybe a few more classic country songs that don't come to mind right now, which I'd play very occasionally – and I want to stress very – just to be different. With that said, I think program directors MUST GET AWAY FROM THE MENTALITY that people absolutely want to hear the same songs again ad nauseum, and that they would risk people turning their dials en masse when that "strange" song comes on. Heck, I'd rather have a classic hits-oldies library that had 1,500-2,000 songs than just the same 600 or so on most Clear Channel stations. So with that in mind, if I were programming a 1987 year-end show, I'd pencil in at least three of the extras right now (assuming a top 50, four-hour show): * "Forever and Ever, Amen" – Randy Travis (No. 1 country song of the year, according to the show that shall not be named.) Sorry, but ... • "Faith" – George Michael. No. 1 AT40 song of 1988; also made No. 1 at the end of 1987, and still climbing the chart after the chart year ended. (Since the show that shall not air isn't in consideration, it appears.) * "Look Away" – Chicago. No. 1 AT40 song of 1989. (Ditto the explanation for "Faith.") * "Heaven is a Place on Earth" – Belinda Carlisle. Also peaked after the 1987 chart year ended. For it to truly be a 1987 program, you've got to include this song, which would allow all No. 1 hits from the calendar year to have been played in a top 50 show, and it's an essential, core song from the classic hits-oldies format. Backup extra; To be fair to the R&B fans out there, the No. 1 song of the year on the Hot Black Singles chart ... * "Stop to Love" – Luther Vandross. This one peaked at No. 15 on the Hot 100 in January, and spent two weeks at No. 1 on the Hot Black Singles chart. Sorry for the ramble. OK, back to the topic at hand ... . Brian |
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Oct 24, 2012 18:39:41 GMT -5
If anything new for Year-End 1980s, seeing that the year with the most new episodes so far in 2012 was 1987, my money is going on The Top 100 of 1987.
Then again, Premiere may surprise us by giving us the Top 100 of 1986 - in its entirety! After all, 1986 is the year with the most airings during 2012 so far!
I feel strongly doubtful about replaying the 1984 year-ender, seeing it may have last aired in 2007, and its doubtful they're going to replay a broadcast that aired in 2007, when Premiere is focusing on airing reruns of 2008 or 2009 rebroadcasts. I have a feeling they're going to start replaying 2010-aired rebroadcasts in 2013.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2012 19:23:18 GMT -5
Yeah because that belief has been so well founded the last several weeks. All I see in the other threads is complaints of another repeat, another repeat, another repeat. Look I have no money riding on this one way or the other. And I hope for those who you who listen that it is a non-repeat. If it is a non-repeat I'd guess it'll be 87, but they don't seem to be in any hurry to air new stuff, so I see just see 84 happening again. At least that's one point you and I agree on. If it is a rerun, though, I'd like to hear 1982 again. As for 70s reruns, 1971 since it's three hours, and being the only show. I know you didn't address what I said earlier about my oldies predictions – and as I was typing this, you have now addressed it – but you and the others, it's just d**n frustrating when Premiere could easily play a more obscure song as an extra. It doesn't even necessarily have to be a country song ... I've started adding lower-performing songs by well-known artists, particularly if they're classic rock and hence, may have gotten/may get classic rock or album rock airplay. I mentioned this week, for instance, ZZ Top having a song that fell just short of the top 40 in October 1976, but could very well be a popular song amongst the classic rock-leaning fans of the classic hits-oldies audience. And some of the "obscure" country songs that I've picked ... some of them did well on the Adult Contemporary chart, and I'd bet there are quite a few AC-leaning fans in the classic hits-oldies audience. With my picks in mind, I try to appeal to everyone, not just the same four or five songs you'd expect to hear. I can understand one, maybe two of the more well-known songs to be extras in a given week, and would prefer one of Larry Morgan's brief stretch stories to go with them. But try to appeal to everyone. Station owners and pd's assume from the get go their listening audience is stupid. Especially those stations that specialize in older music. They assume you only know and want to hear the same songs you recognize (the ones their CHR stations years ago played to death and made you recognize them) over and over again, all day, everyday. Straying from this in their world means you are going to turn the dial, head will explode, anything but listen to a different song. This is further compounded when you start thinking they are going to play something from a different format altogether and think that's going to go off without a hitch. I'l admit if I were running a classic hits station, I probably wouldn't have George Strait. Might have Randy Travis' " Forever and Ever Amen" and maybe a few more classic country songs that don't come to mind right now, which I'd play very occasionally – and I want to stress very – just to be different. With that said, I think program directors MUST GET AWAY FROM THE MENTALITY that people absolutely want to hear the same songs again ad nauseum, and that they would risk people turning their dials en masse when that "strange" song comes on. Heck, I'd rather have a classic hits-oldies library that had 1,500-2,000 songs than just the same 600 or so on most Clear Channel stations. So with that in mind, if I were programming a 1987 year-end show, I'd pencil in at least three of the extras right now (assuming a top 50, four-hour show): * "Forever and Ever, Amen" – Randy Travis (No. 1 country song of the year, according to the show that shall not be named.) Sorry, but ... • "Faith" – George Michael. No. 1 AT40 song of 1988; also made No. 1 at the end of 1987, and still climbing the chart after the chart year ended. (Since the show that shall not air isn't in consideration, it appears.) * "Look Away" – Chicago. No. 1 AT40 song of 1989. (Ditto the explanation for "Faith.") * "Heaven is a Place on Earth" – Belinda Carlisle. Also peaked after the 1987 chart year ended. For it to truly be a 1987 program, you've got to include this song, which would allow all No. 1 hits from the calendar year to have been played in a top 50 show, and it's an essential, core song from the classic hits-oldies format. Backup extra; To be fair to the R&B fans out there, the No. 1 song of the year on the Hot Black Singles chart ... * "Stop to Love" – Luther Vandross. This one peaked at No. 15 on the Hot 100 in January, and spent two weeks at No. 1 on the Hot Black Singles chart. Sorry for the ramble. OK, back to the topic at hand ... . Brian Here's where I am lost. What do you mean YOU try to appeal to everyone? When you are guessing the extras then the idea is to guess what they air, not appealing to everyone like you are programming the show. That's what I gather is irritating everyone. You are not the shows creative force so you picking extras to appeal to everyone makes absolutely no sense to anyone who understands that. Now about your 87 predictions. Because its a year end show, I could nearly half entertain the idea if they wanted to go outside the box they'd play the Randy Travis song. But I also put the chances they'd do it at way less than 10% if I were betting on it because it is an entirely different format. |
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