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Post by dth1971 on Aug 7, 2023 6:42:02 GMT -5
Did "Something Better To Do" by Olivia Newton-John in 1975 have a high AT40 debut at #19 but never made the top 10?
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Post by 1finemrg on Aug 7, 2023 6:59:51 GMT -5
Did "Something Better To Do" by Olivia Newton-John in 1975 have a high AT40 debut at #19 but never made the top 10? "Something Better To Do" did have that #19 debut on October 11, 1975, up from #52. It would peak at #13 for 2 weeks. |
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Post by Hervard on Aug 7, 2023 14:36:31 GMT -5
To me, any song that debuts inside the Top 40 on the chart that doesn't make it into the Top 10 is a disappointment. Example--It's Raining Again by Supertramp debuted on the Billboard chart at #31 on October 30.1982 and would peak at #11.  One more Example--All Right by Christopher Cross entered the chart at #29 on January 15, 1983 and made it to #12.  Two words - Bill Wardlaw. |
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Post by mga707 on Aug 7, 2023 16:07:42 GMT -5
Did "Something Better To Do" by Olivia Newton-John in 1975 have a high AT40 debut at #19 but never made the top 10? "Something Better To Do" did have that #19 debut on October 11, 1975, up from #52. It would peak at #13 for 2 weeks. Ever since this thread started, I knew there was a'75 song that perfectly fit the subject, but couldn't place it. Until now. |
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Post by johnnywest on Aug 8, 2023 9:43:40 GMT -5
I was surprised when "If You Go" by Jon Secada debuted at #15 on Casey's Top 40 in 1994, making it the highest debut of the decade at that point (and would only be matched by Madonna's "Frozen" in 1998). The song only peaked at #5. It was an impressive debut for someone who'd never had a #1 single before.
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Post by matt on Aug 8, 2023 15:08:35 GMT -5
To me, any song that debuts inside the Top 40 on the chart that doesn't make it into the Top 10 is a disappointment. Example--It's Raining Again by Supertramp debuted on the Billboard chart at #31 on October 30.1982 and would peak at #11. One more Example--All Right by Christopher Cross entered the chart at #29 on January 15, 1983 and made it to #12. Both these songs seemed to be cases of the first release from a highly anticipated follow-up to a major hit album. They both probably had high advanced sales numbers going into the release, which boosted both songs to a high debut. Once actual sales kicked in, the momentum cooled off and their chart ascensions slowed down. You could also surmise that the majority of customers bought the LP for these songs instead of the single (since their previous LPs had been so popular), which hurt singles sales sometime after their release and subsequent debut on the charts. Just a guess as to why those songs had such high debuts but not great peaks. |
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Post by LC on Aug 8, 2023 20:28:09 GMT -5
To me, any song that debuts inside the Top 40 on the chart that doesn't make it into the Top 10 is a disappointment. Example--It's Raining Again by Supertramp debuted on the Billboard chart at #31 on October 30.1982 and would peak at #11. One more Example--All Right by Christopher Cross entered the chart at #29 on January 15, 1983 and made it to #12. Both these songs seemed to be cases of the first release from a highly anticipated follow-up to a major hit album. They both probably had high advanced sales numbers going into the release, which boosted both songs to a high debut. Once actual sales kicked in, the momentum cooled off and their chart ascensions slowed down. You could also surmise that the majority of customers bought the LP for these songs instead of the single (since their previous LPs had been so popular), which hurt singles sales sometime after their release and subsequent debut on the charts. Just a guess as to why those songs had such high debuts but not great peaks. Neither of those two albums came close in either sales or chart position to their highly successful predecessors. |
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Post by woolebull on Aug 10, 2023 16:38:42 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but the highest debut seems to carry with it a "this is the best debut" and "this is going to be the biggest hit of this week's debuts" feeling, especially the way Casey introduces the song. So, we have the week ending 11/18/1978. Among the debuts are Le Freak. And Too Much Heaven. But the highest debut at #31 is... Peter Asher's abortion of Ooh Baby Baby. GAG! Pass the Kool-Aid, Reverend! Any other examples of this kind of letdown? I don't know if you did it intentionally, and I would have to go back and check the actual date, but I know Jonestown went down verrry close to 11/18/78. Good use of events around that time chrislc ! EDIT: Just checked and Jonestown and Peter Asher happened on the same day. Good job! |
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Post by mga707 on Aug 10, 2023 20:44:23 GMT -5
Good example of this on tonight's 'Wheel Of Casey', 10/02/71: highest debut is Kris Kristofferson's "Lovin' Her Was Easier" at #30. It would only rise four 'notches' to #26.
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Post by chrislc on Aug 11, 2023 7:04:06 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but the highest debut seems to carry with it a "this is the best debut" and "this is going to be the biggest hit of this week's debuts" feeling, especially the way Casey introduces the song. So, we have the week ending 11/18/1978. Among the debuts are Le Freak. And Too Much Heaven. But the highest debut at #31 is... Peter Asher's abortion of Ooh Baby Baby. GAG! Pass the Kool-Aid, Reverend! Any other examples of this kind of letdown? I don't know if you did it intentionally, and I would have to go back and check the actual date, but I know Jonestown went down verrry close to 11/18/78. Good use of events around that time chrislc ! EDIT: Just checked and Jonestown and Peter Asher happened on the same day. Good job! Thank you for your support woolebull actually I’m a big fan of Peter and Gordon even their songs about lettuce and ham but his treatment of Linda and JT is a pet peeve. Try to ignore the grumpy old man! Sometimes I think I should stick to 60s and earlier those songs are my blue pill of happiness and innocence.  . PS Something Better To Do reminds me of the two Ford assassination attempts not because of the title just the time frame. PPS this just occurred to me after almost 50 years but those were both in the heart of Reagan Country what’s THAT all about ?? |
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Post by dth1971 on Aug 11, 2023 8:47:15 GMT -5
I was surprised when "If You Go" by Jon Secada debuted at #15 on Casey's Top 40 in 1994, making it the highest debut of the decade at that point (and would only be matched by Madonna's "Frozen" in 1998). The song only peaked at #5. It was an impressive debut for someone who'd never had a #1 single before. Also for Casey's Top 40 in 1994, "Endless Love" by Luther Vandross and Mariah Carey had a high debut at #19 but didn't go all the way to #1. For Shadoe AT40, "If You Go" by Jon Secada entered at #19. |
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Post by mga707 on Aug 12, 2023 11:35:34 GMT -5
Another good example on this week's Sirius-XM show from 8/10/74: Edgar Winter Group's "River's Risin'" was the highest debut at #33. Unlike the river, it would rise no higher.
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Post by LC on Aug 12, 2023 12:47:51 GMT -5
In May 1975,Chicago debuted at # 17 with "Old Days"-It looked like a sure fire # 1 hit-Unfortunately,it stopped at # 5. Electric Light Orchestra had a similar fate, debuting at #18 on AT40 with "Don't Bring Me Down" on August 11th, 1979, after its Billboard Hot 100 debut at #41 for 8/4/1979, it also looked like a sure fire #1 hit, unfortunately, it'd stop at #4 and an RIAA Gold record! The ELO one has always puzzled/frustrated me. I guess it's like the fable of the tortoise & the hare. Slow and steady climbers often hit #1, while streaking rockets burn out and fall short. |
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Post by doofus67 on Aug 12, 2023 13:40:50 GMT -5
Electric Light Orchestra had a similar fate, debuting at #18 on AT40 with "Don't Bring Me Down" on August 11th, 1979, after its Billboard Hot 100 debut at #41 for 8/4/1979, it also looked like a sure fire #1 hit, unfortunately, it'd stop at #4 and an RIAA Gold record! The ELO one has always puzzled/frustrated me. I guess it's like the fable of the tortoise & the hare. Slow and steady climbers often hit #1, while streaking rockets burn out and fall short. Good point. Look at how long it took for "Sad Eyes", "Please Don't Go," and "Do That to Me One More Time" to ring the bell. |
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Post by dth1971 on Aug 13, 2023 8:27:45 GMT -5
Another letdown: On 7/9/1983 the highest debut on AT40 was at #30 with "Saved by Zero" by the Fixx but it didn't barely crack the top 20 reaches.
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. PS Something Better To Do reminds me of the two Ford assassination attempts not because of the title just the time frame. PPS this just occurred to me after almost 50 years but those were both in the heart of Reagan Country what’s THAT all about ??
